[NCUC-EC] reminder: CROP proposals in evaluation

Mon Mar 5 09:23:30 CET 2018

I abstain from voting.

Le dimanche 4 mars 2018, Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com> a écrit :
> I abstain from voting.
> Best,
> Elsa
> On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 3:29 PM Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
wrote:
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> We have 3 votes in favor so we can move on here.
>>
>> I'll review with travelers their outreach plan soon and send to the list
for your knowledge.
>>
>> Then we'll send them to GSE as time is of the essence.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 4:10 PM, Louise Marie Hurel <
louise.marie.hsd at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>> My apologies for the delay.
>>> After taking a close look at the proposals, I'd vote yes for all of
them. While I agree that strategies for LAC and AF have to be further
detailed, proponents show high commitment and willingness to take NCUC
regional engagement also as a way for them to get more involved in the
community - we want this energy! I would also point out that, especially
for LAC and AF, it is great to see more community members taking the stand
to apply for CROP. As said in previous emails there is still a challenge
for people to be aware of programs such as CROP.
>>> All the best,
>>> Louise Marie Hurel
>>>
>>> Cybersecurity Project Coordinator | Igarapé Institute
>>>
>>> London School of Economics (LSE) Media and Communications (Data and
Society)
>>>
>>> Skype: louise.dias
>>> +44 (0) 7468 906327
>>> l.h.dias at lse.ac.uk
>>> louise.marie.hsd at gmail.com
>>>
>>> 2018-02-26 15:36 GMT-05:00 Michael Karanicolas <mkaranicolas at gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>> Hi.
>>>> Yes - I did. Kathy and myself were the only two applicants. It's a
pretty niche meeting, and I don't think there was a lot of interest in
attending.
>>>> Mike
>>>> On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 4:33 PM, hfaiedh ines <hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all
>>>>> I ll review CROPS shortly and come back to you shortly.
>>>>> @Michael, can you please confirm if you received/or not the NCSG
Travel slot to attend the INTA meeting in Seattle? (dating back to Feb
10th) https://lists.ncsg.is/pipermail/ncsg-ec/2018-February/000293.html
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> 2018-02-26 16:51 GMT+01:00 Bruna Martins dos Santos <
bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for the update, Michael! Yep, I guess its both fortunate and
unfortunate the merger, but I am sure good things can come out of this !
>>>>>> 2018-02-26 11:35 GMT-03:00 Michael Karanicolas <
mkaranicolas at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Great. By the way, Bruna, your comment on NCUC participation is well
>>>>>>> taken, but I've also just today heard back from RightsCon saying
they
>>>>>>> want to merge this session in together with one that's been proposed
>>>>>>> by Xianhong Hu from UNESCO.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On the one hand, this may provide a good boost to attendance, and
>>>>>>> allow an interesting collaboration opportunity. On the other hand,
it
>>>>>>> obviously reduces our "control" over the session and its
participants.
>>>>>>> Still, I'll try to push for more NCUC involvement.  Will go out to
the
>>>>>>> lists with more information shortly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 9:53 AM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro
>>>>>>> <raquino at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> > Dear Bruna, Michael
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Thank you for your comments.
>>>>>>> > As soon as all EC finalize their comments on proposals we can get
back
>>>>>>> > to presenters with the requests and results of evaluation.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Best,
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Renata
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 10:46 AM, Bruna Martins dos Santos
>>>>>>> > <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> >> Btw, I approve all three CROP requests but I would like for the
LAC and
>>>>>>> >> Africa ones to have more consistent outreach plans.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> 2018-02-26 10:45 GMT-03:00 Bruna Martins dos Santos <
bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> Renata, one short clarification: Having read all the proposals
now I
>>>>>>> >>> wanted to make clear that I did not object to any of them.
>>>>>>> >>> I just think we could suggest adaptations to both of them -
thats why I
>>>>>>> >>> had questions with regards to time in the LAC one and outreach
in both. If
>>>>>>> >>> we asked Ayden to better describe outreach plans in his CROP
proposal why
>>>>>>> >>> shouldnt we ask Roxanne and Liz ?  I find it necessary to clear
up my
>>>>>>> >>> considerations because (a) I dont think I am going beyond my EC
role when I
>>>>>>> >>> write them and (b) these members will most likely get their
CROP requests
>>>>>>> >>> approved and will get to represent NCUC in a forum so we should
raise the
>>>>>>> >>> bar and make some requirements when it comes to the Constituency
>>>>>>> >>> representation.
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> One question though: were the Africa and LAC proposals approved
to the
>>>>>>> >>> respective programmes ? You wrote on your email that the LACNIC
one was in
>>>>>>> >>> provisional acceptance, what about the Africa one?
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> I would also like all of those who took the time to send the
email to the
>>>>>>> >>> list supporting both proposals taking the time to suggest
outreach ideas.
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> Best,
>>>>>>> >>> B.
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> 2018-02-26 10:18 GMT-03:00 Michael Karanicolas <
mkaranicolas at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> I vote to approve the CROP LAC LACNIC29 + LACNOG and the CROP
AF - Africa
>>>>>>> >>>> Internet Summit. Both look good, and I'm pleased that there's
been such
>>>>>>> >>>> strong collaboration among the community in developing these
proposals.
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> Best,
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> Michael
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 2:18 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro
>>>>>>> >>>> <raquino at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>> Hi
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>> Answers inline.
>>>>>>> >>>>> Short answer: all proposals were sent both to general list
and EC list.
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 2:54 PM, Bruna Martins dos Santos
>>>>>>> >>>>> <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> My comments are under each CROP
>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>> CROP AF - Africa Internet Summit
>>>>>>> >>>>>>
https://lists.ncuc.org/pipermail/ncuc-ec/2018-February/008807.html
>>>>>>> >>>>>> Sent date 7Feb
>>>>>>> >>>>>> NCUC Session proposal: to be sent until 2March, sent to
NCUC-Discuss
>>>>>>> >>>>>> and NCUC-EC
>>>>>>> >>>>>> CROP Proposer: Liz Orembo
>>>>>>> >>>>>> CROP Status: In evaluation by EC
>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>> Vote: The applicant doesnt quite describe her outreach plans
in her
>>>>>>> >>>>>> application: " This time I plan to work with the regional
engagement teams
>>>>>>> >>>>>> on ICANN sessions, main focus this time will be on NCUC and
its role at
>>>>>>> >>>>>> ICANN. I'm also planning on sending a presentation proposal.
Until 2 March
>>>>>>> >>>>>> this can be done. I'll try to build this presentation with
NCUC members" -
>>>>>>> >>>>>> this feels a little empty. Also her presentation proposal is
not listed on
>>>>>>> >>>>>> the email, was it approved ?
>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>> [RAR] I believe when proposer sent this application the
details for AIS
>>>>>>> >>>>> proposal weren't posted yet. Now they have and she did, sent
to regional
>>>>>>> >>>>> list, main list and EC and received no objections. However,
lots of
>>>>>>> >>>>> collaboration in the document
>>>>>>> >>>>> Proposal document
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-c6tsMtWCxBDHtbFL9OsGy6Uuz1rzpx2qpgARR4SQbg/edit
>>>>>>> >>>>> Discussion on regional list Feb 14
>>>>>>> >>>>>
https://lists.ncuc.org/pipermail/ncuc-af/2018-February/000256.html
>>>>>>> >>>>> Proposal on main list Feb 19
>>>>>>> >>>>>
https://lists.ncuc.org/pipermail/ncuc-discuss/2018-February/043731.html
>>>>>>> >>>>> Proposal on EC list Feb 20
>>>>>>> >>>>>
https://lists.ncuc.org/pipermail/ncuc-ec/2018-February/008897.html
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>> CROP LAC - LACNIC29 + LACNOG
>>>>>>> >>>>>>
https://lists.ncuc.org/pipermail/ncuc-ec/2018-February/008806.html
>>>>>>> >>>>>> Sent date 7Feb
>>>>>>> >>>>>> NCUC Session proposals: 2
>>>>>>> >>>>>> NCUC Session proposal status: provisional acceptance
>>>>>>> >>>>>> CROP Proposer: Roxanne John
>>>>>>> >>>>>> CROP Status: In evaluation by EC
>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>> Vote: Yes with conditions! Presentation proposal looks
consistent and
>>>>>>> >>>>>> is very good, apart from that 5 min for 3 speakers looks too
little time. On
>>>>>>> >>>>>> a side note, I would like the applicant to be more active on
the general
>>>>>>> >>>>>> presentation and less of a presenter or moderator (the
proposal doesnt quite
>>>>>>> >>>>>> state who will be doing what). I also see no outreach plan
such as (a) draft
>>>>>>> >>>>>> members, (b) participate on discussions on behalf of ncuc or
any other
>>>>>>> >>>>>> possibility, the idea of developing outreach with GSE and
not the
>>>>>>> >>>>>> constituency also seems a little off - Given that the member
is from the LAC
>>>>>>> >>>>>> region, I would love if she could send her proposal to the
list asking for
>>>>>>> >>>>>> input.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>> [RAR] Proposals were also sent to list and received comments.
I am
>>>>>>> >>>>> co-author of proposals.
>>>>>>> >>>>> Note that these proposals are only flash talk readouts of
reports of
>>>>>>> >>>>> work NCUC did at IGF2017 and will do at WSIS.
>>>>>>> >>>>> Proposer will indicate, through her readout, what were the
issues
>>>>>>> >>>>> discussed by NCUC at these venues and who did that discussion.
>>>>>>> >>>>> Also there is an idea of remote presentation by key policy
people in
>>>>>>> >>>>> NCUC via a short video.
>>>>>>> >>>>> If the proposal is approved the arrangements for this will be
made.
>>>>>>> >>>>> Proposal document (IGF2017 is the concrete one right now as
we are
>>>>>>> >>>>> waiting for WSIS results)
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1iHn-npOfO4Q6WmBP3a5QU3A-rDoGiSaAlh2d5Vcgufo/edit
>>>>>>> >>>>> Proposal sent to list
>>>>>>> >>>>>
https://lists.ncuc.org/pipermail/ncuc-discuss/2018-February/043619.html
>>>>>>> >>>>> Proposal sent to EC list
>>>>>>> >>>>>
https://lists.ncuc.org/pipermail/ncuc-ec/2018-February/008806.html
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>> CROP NA - Rightscon
>>>>>>> >>>>>>
https://lists.ncuc.org/pipermail/ncuc-ec/2017-December/008643.html
>>>>>>> >>>>>> Sent date 17 Dec
>>>>>>> >>>>>> NCUC Session proposal: 1
>>>>>>> >>>>>> NCUC Session proposal status: Accepted
>>>>>>> >>>>>> CROP Proposer: Michael Karanicolas
>>>>>>> >>>>>> CROP Status: In evaluation by EC
>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>> Vote: Yes! This is the most developed CROP proposal of them
all but one
>>>>>>> >>>>>> point for consideration would be to include other NCUC
member in attendance
>>>>>>> >>>>>> both in the Panel composition and in the management of the
booth - but for
>>>>>>> >>>>>> this we probably to have wait for the RightsCon funding
requests to come
>>>>>>> >>>>>> back.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>> best,
>>>>>>> >>>>>> b
>>>>>>> >>>>>> --
>>>>>>> >>>>>> Bruna Martins dos Santos
>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>> +55 61 99252-6512
>>>>>>> >>>>>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>>>>>>> >>>>>> @boomartins
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>
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>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> --
>>>>>>> >>> Bruna Martins dos Santos
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> +55 61 99252-6512
>>>>>>> >>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>>>>>>> >>> @boomartins
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> --
>>>>>>> >> Bruna Martins dos Santos
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> +55 61 99252-6512
>>>>>>> >> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>>>>>>> >> @boomartins
>>>>>>> > _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Bruna Martins dos Santos
>>>>>> +55 61 99252-6512
>>>>>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>>>>>> @boomartins
>>>>>>
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> Elsa Saade
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> Gulf Center for Human Rights
> Beirut, Lebanon
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