[NCUC-EC] reminder: CROP proposals in evaluation

Sun Mar 4 15:47:41 CET 2018

I abstain from voting.

Best,

Elsa

On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 3:29 PM Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> We have 3 votes in favor so we can move on here.
>
> I'll review with travelers their outreach plan soon and send to the list
> for your knowledge.
>
> Then we'll send them to GSE as time is of the essence.
>
> Thanks
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 4:10 PM, Louise Marie Hurel <
> louise.marie.hsd at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> My apologies for the delay.
>> After taking a close look at the proposals, I'd vote yes for all of them.
>> While I agree that strategies for LAC and AF have to be further detailed,
>> proponents show high commitment and willingness to take NCUC regional
>> engagement also as a way for them to get more involved in the community -
>> we want this energy! I would also point out that, especially for LAC and
>> AF, it is great to see more community members taking the stand to apply for
>> CROP. As said in previous emails there is still a challenge for people to
>> be aware of programs such as CROP.
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Louise Marie Hurel
>>
>> Cybersecurity Project Coordinator | Igarapé Institute
>>
>> London School of Economics (LSE) Media and Communications (Data and
>> Society)
>> Skype: louise.dias
>> +44 (0) 7468 906327 <+44%207468%20906327>
>> *l.h.dias at lse.ac.uk <l.h.dias at lse.ac.uk> *
>> louise.marie.hsd at gmail.com
>>
>>
>> 2018-02-26 15:36 GMT-05:00 Michael Karanicolas <mkaranicolas at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Hi.
>>>
>>> Yes - I did. Kathy and myself were the only two applicants. It's a
>>> pretty niche meeting, and I don't think there was a lot of interest in
>>> attending.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 4:33 PM, hfaiedh ines <hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all
>>>>
>>>> I ll review CROPS shortly and come back to you shortly.
>>>>
>>>> @Michael, can you please confirm if you received/or not the NCSG Travel
>>>> slot to attend the INTA meeting in Seattle? (dating back to Feb 10th)
>>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/pipermail/ncsg-ec/2018-February/000293.html
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2018-02-26 16:51 GMT+01:00 Bruna Martins dos Santos <
>>>> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the update, Michael! Yep, I guess its both fortunate and
>>>>> unfortunate the merger, but I am sure good things can come out of this !
>>>>>
>>>>> 2018-02-26 11:35 GMT-03:00 Michael Karanicolas <mkaranicolas at gmail.com
>>>>> >:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Great. By the way, Bruna, your comment on NCUC participation is well
>>>>>> taken, but I've also just today heard back from RightsCon saying they
>>>>>> want to merge this session in together with one that's been proposed
>>>>>> by Xianhong Hu from UNESCO.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On the one hand, this may provide a good boost to attendance, and
>>>>>> allow an interesting collaboration opportunity. On the other hand, it
>>>>>> obviously reduces our "control" over the session and its participants.
>>>>>> Still, I'll try to push for more NCUC involvement.  Will go out to the
>>>>>> lists with more information shortly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 9:53 AM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro
>>>>>> <raquino at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> > Dear Bruna, Michael
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Thank you for your comments.
>>>>>> > As soon as all EC finalize their comments on proposals we can get
>>>>>> back
>>>>>> > to presenters with the requests and results of evaluation.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Best,
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Renata
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 10:46 AM, Bruna Martins dos Santos
>>>>>> > <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >> Btw, I approve all three CROP requests but I would like for the
>>>>>> LAC and
>>>>>> >> Africa ones to have more consistent outreach plans.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> 2018-02-26 10:45 GMT-03:00 Bruna Martins dos Santos <
>>>>>> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Renata, one short clarification: Having read all the proposals
>>>>>> now I
>>>>>> >>> wanted to make clear that I did not object to any of them.
>>>>>> >>> I just think we could suggest adaptations to both of them - thats
>>>>>> why I
>>>>>> >>> had questions with regards to time in the LAC one and outreach in
>>>>>> both. If
>>>>>> >>> we asked Ayden to better describe outreach plans in his CROP
>>>>>> proposal why
>>>>>> >>> shouldnt we ask Roxanne and Liz ?  I find it necessary to clear
>>>>>> up my
>>>>>> >>> considerations because (a) I dont think I am going beyond my EC
>>>>>> role when I
>>>>>> >>> write them and (b) these members will most likely get their CROP
>>>>>> requests
>>>>>> >>> approved and will get to represent NCUC in a forum so we should
>>>>>> raise the
>>>>>> >>> bar and make some requirements when it comes to the Constituency
>>>>>> >>> representation.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> One question though: were the Africa and LAC proposals approved
>>>>>> to the
>>>>>> >>> respective programmes ? You wrote on your email that the LACNIC
>>>>>> one was in
>>>>>> >>> provisional acceptance, what about the Africa one?
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> I would also like all of those who took the time to send the
>>>>>> email to the
>>>>>> >>> list supporting both proposals taking the time to suggest
>>>>>> outreach ideas.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Best,
>>>>>> >>> B.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> 2018-02-26 10:18 GMT-03:00 Michael Karanicolas <
>>>>>> mkaranicolas at gmail.com>:
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Hi,
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> I vote to approve the CROP LAC LACNIC29 + LACNOG and the CROP AF
>>>>>> - Africa
>>>>>> >>>> Internet Summit. Both look good, and I'm pleased that there's
>>>>>> been such
>>>>>> >>>> strong collaboration among the community in developing these
>>>>>> proposals.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Best,
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Michael
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 2:18 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro
>>>>>> >>>> <raquino at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> Hi
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> Answers inline.
>>>>>> >>>>> Short answer: all proposals were sent both to general list and
>>>>>> EC list.
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 2:54 PM, Bruna Martins dos Santos
>>>>>> >>>>> <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>> My comments are under each CROP
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> CROP AF - Africa Internet Summit
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> https://lists.ncuc.org/pipermail/ncuc-ec/2018-February/008807.html
>>>>>> >>>>>> Sent date 7Feb
>>>>>> >>>>>> NCUC Session proposal: to be sent until 2March, sent to
>>>>>> NCUC-Discuss
>>>>>> >>>>>> and NCUC-EC
>>>>>> >>>>>> CROP Proposer: Liz Orembo
>>>>>> >>>>>> CROP Status: In evaluation by EC
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> Vote: The applicant doesnt quite describe her outreach plans
>>>>>> in her
>>>>>> >>>>>> application: " This time I plan to work with the regional
>>>>>> engagement teams
>>>>>> >>>>>> on ICANN sessions, main focus this time will be on NCUC and
>>>>>> its role at
>>>>>> >>>>>> ICANN. I'm also planning on sending a presentation proposal.
>>>>>> Until 2 March
>>>>>> >>>>>> this can be done. I'll try to build this presentation with
>>>>>> NCUC members" -
>>>>>> >>>>>> this feels a little empty. Also her presentation proposal is
>>>>>> not listed on
>>>>>> >>>>>> the email, was it approved ?
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> [RAR] I believe when proposer sent this application the details
>>>>>> for AIS
>>>>>> >>>>> proposal weren't posted yet. Now they have and she did, sent to
>>>>>> regional
>>>>>> >>>>> list, main list and EC and received no objections. However,
>>>>>> lots of
>>>>>> >>>>> collaboration in the document
>>>>>> >>>>> Proposal document
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-c6tsMtWCxBDHtbFL9OsGy6Uuz1rzpx2qpgARR4SQbg/edit
>>>>>> >>>>> Discussion on regional list Feb 14
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> https://lists.ncuc.org/pipermail/ncuc-af/2018-February/000256.html
>>>>>> >>>>> Proposal on main list Feb 19
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> https://lists.ncuc.org/pipermail/ncuc-discuss/2018-February/043731.html
>>>>>> >>>>> Proposal on EC list Feb 20
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> https://lists.ncuc.org/pipermail/ncuc-ec/2018-February/008897.html
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> CROP LAC - LACNIC29 + LACNOG
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> https://lists.ncuc.org/pipermail/ncuc-ec/2018-February/008806.html
>>>>>> >>>>>> Sent date 7Feb
>>>>>> >>>>>> NCUC Session proposals: 2
>>>>>> >>>>>> NCUC Session proposal status: provisional acceptance
>>>>>> >>>>>> CROP Proposer: Roxanne John
>>>>>> >>>>>> CROP Status: In evaluation by EC
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> Vote: Yes with conditions! Presentation proposal looks
>>>>>> consistent and
>>>>>> >>>>>> is very good, apart from that 5 min for 3 speakers looks too
>>>>>> little time. On
>>>>>> >>>>>> a side note, I would like the applicant to be more active on
>>>>>> the general
>>>>>> >>>>>> presentation and less of a presenter or moderator (the
>>>>>> proposal doesnt quite
>>>>>> >>>>>> state who will be doing what). I also see no outreach plan
>>>>>> such as (a) draft
>>>>>> >>>>>> members, (b) participate on discussions on behalf of ncuc or
>>>>>> any other
>>>>>> >>>>>> possibility, the idea of developing outreach with GSE and not
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> >>>>>> constituency also seems a little off - Given that the member
>>>>>> is from the LAC
>>>>>> >>>>>> region, I would love if she could send her proposal to the
>>>>>> list asking for
>>>>>> >>>>>> input.
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> [RAR] Proposals were also sent to list and received comments. I
>>>>>> am
>>>>>> >>>>> co-author of proposals.
>>>>>> >>>>> Note that these proposals are only flash talk readouts of
>>>>>> reports of
>>>>>> >>>>> work NCUC did at IGF2017 and will do at WSIS.
>>>>>> >>>>> Proposer will indicate, through her readout, what were the
>>>>>> issues
>>>>>> >>>>> discussed by NCUC at these venues and who did that discussion.
>>>>>> >>>>> Also there is an idea of remote presentation by key policy
>>>>>> people in
>>>>>> >>>>> NCUC via a short video.
>>>>>> >>>>> If the proposal is approved the arrangements for this will be
>>>>>> made.
>>>>>> >>>>> Proposal document (IGF2017 is the concrete one right now as we
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> >>>>> waiting for WSIS results)
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1iHn-npOfO4Q6WmBP3a5QU3A-rDoGiSaAlh2d5Vcgufo/edit
>>>>>> >>>>> Proposal sent to list
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> https://lists.ncuc.org/pipermail/ncuc-discuss/2018-February/043619.html
>>>>>> >>>>> Proposal sent to EC list
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> https://lists.ncuc.org/pipermail/ncuc-ec/2018-February/008806.html
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> CROP NA - Rightscon
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> https://lists.ncuc.org/pipermail/ncuc-ec/2017-December/008643.html
>>>>>> >>>>>> Sent date 17 Dec
>>>>>> >>>>>> NCUC Session proposal: 1
>>>>>> >>>>>> NCUC Session proposal status: Accepted
>>>>>> >>>>>> CROP Proposer: Michael Karanicolas
>>>>>> >>>>>> CROP Status: In evaluation by EC
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> Vote: Yes! This is the most developed CROP proposal of them
>>>>>> all but one
>>>>>> >>>>>> point for consideration would be to include other NCUC member
>>>>>> in attendance
>>>>>> >>>>>> both in the Panel composition and in the management of the
>>>>>> booth - but for
>>>>>> >>>>>> this we probably to have wait for the RightsCon funding
>>>>>> requests to come
>>>>>> >>>>>> back.
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> best,
>>>>>> >>>>>> b
>>>>>> >>>>>> --
>>>>>> >>>>>> Bruna Martins dos Santos
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> +55 61 99252-6512
>>>>>> >>>>>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>>>>>> >>>>>> @boomartins
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> --
>>>>>> >>> Bruna Martins dos Santos
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> +55 61 99252-6512
>>>>>> >>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>>>>>> >>> @boomartins
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> --
>>>>>> >> Bruna Martins dos Santos
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> +55 61 99252-6512
>>>>>> >> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>>>>>> >> @boomartins
>>>>>> > _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>>>>>
>>>>> +55 61 99252-6512 <+55%2061%2099252-6512>
>>>>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>>>>> @boomartins
>>>>>
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Elsa Saade
Human Rights Officer
Gulf Center for Human Rights
Beirut, Lebanon
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