[NCUC-EC] reminder: CROP proposals in evaluation

Michael Karanicolas mkaranicolas at gmail.com
Mon Feb 26 21:36:06 CET 2018


Hi.

Yes - I did. Kathy and myself were the only two applicants. It's a pretty
niche meeting, and I don't think there was a lot of interest in attending.

Mike

On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 4:33 PM, hfaiedh ines <hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi all
>
> I ll review CROPS shortly and come back to you shortly.
>
> @Michael, can you please confirm if you received/or not the NCSG Travel
> slot to attend the INTA meeting in Seattle? (dating back to Feb 10th)
> https://lists.ncsg.is/pipermail/ncsg-ec/2018-February/000293.html
>
> Thanks
>
>
> 2018-02-26 16:51 GMT+01:00 Bruna Martins dos Santos <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com
> >:
>
>> Thanks for the update, Michael! Yep, I guess its both fortunate and
>> unfortunate the merger, but I am sure good things can come out of this !
>>
>> 2018-02-26 11:35 GMT-03:00 Michael Karanicolas <mkaranicolas at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Great. By the way, Bruna, your comment on NCUC participation is well
>>> taken, but I've also just today heard back from RightsCon saying they
>>> want to merge this session in together with one that's been proposed
>>> by Xianhong Hu from UNESCO.
>>>
>>> On the one hand, this may provide a good boost to attendance, and
>>> allow an interesting collaboration opportunity. On the other hand, it
>>> obviously reduces our "control" over the session and its participants.
>>> Still, I'll try to push for more NCUC involvement.  Will go out to the
>>> lists with more information shortly.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 9:53 AM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro
>>> <raquino at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > Dear Bruna, Michael
>>> >
>>> > Thank you for your comments.
>>> > As soon as all EC finalize their comments on proposals we can get back
>>> > to presenters with the requests and results of evaluation.
>>> >
>>> > Best,
>>> >
>>> > Renata
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 10:46 AM, Bruna Martins dos Santos
>>> > <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> Btw, I approve all three CROP requests but I would like for the LAC
>>> and
>>> >> Africa ones to have more consistent outreach plans.
>>> >>
>>> >> 2018-02-26 10:45 GMT-03:00 Bruna Martins dos Santos <
>>> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Renata, one short clarification: Having read all the proposals now I
>>> >>> wanted to make clear that I did not object to any of them.
>>> >>> I just think we could suggest adaptations to both of them - thats
>>> why I
>>> >>> had questions with regards to time in the LAC one and outreach in
>>> both. If
>>> >>> we asked Ayden to better describe outreach plans in his CROP
>>> proposal why
>>> >>> shouldnt we ask Roxanne and Liz ?  I find it necessary to clear up my
>>> >>> considerations because (a) I dont think I am going beyond my EC role
>>> when I
>>> >>> write them and (b) these members will most likely get their CROP
>>> requests
>>> >>> approved and will get to represent NCUC in a forum so we should
>>> raise the
>>> >>> bar and make some requirements when it comes to the Constituency
>>> >>> representation.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> One question though: were the Africa and LAC proposals approved to
>>> the
>>> >>> respective programmes ? You wrote on your email that the LACNIC one
>>> was in
>>> >>> provisional acceptance, what about the Africa one?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I would also like all of those who took the time to send the email
>>> to the
>>> >>> list supporting both proposals taking the time to suggest outreach
>>> ideas.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Best,
>>> >>> B.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> 2018-02-26 10:18 GMT-03:00 Michael Karanicolas <
>>> mkaranicolas at gmail.com>:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Hi,
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> I vote to approve the CROP LAC LACNIC29 + LACNOG and the CROP AF -
>>> Africa
>>> >>>> Internet Summit. Both look good, and I'm pleased that there's been
>>> such
>>> >>>> strong collaboration among the community in developing these
>>> proposals.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Best,
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Michael
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 2:18 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro
>>> >>>> <raquino at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Hi
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Answers inline.
>>> >>>>> Short answer: all proposals were sent both to general list and EC
>>> list.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 2:54 PM, Bruna Martins dos Santos
>>> >>>>> <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> My comments are under each CROP
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> CROP AF - Africa Internet Summit
>>> >>>>>> https://lists.ncuc.org/pipermail/ncuc-ec/2018-February/00880
>>> 7.html
>>> >>>>>> Sent date 7Feb
>>> >>>>>> NCUC Session proposal: to be sent until 2March, sent to
>>> NCUC-Discuss
>>> >>>>>> and NCUC-EC
>>> >>>>>> CROP Proposer: Liz Orembo
>>> >>>>>> CROP Status: In evaluation by EC
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Vote: The applicant doesnt quite describe her outreach plans in
>>> her
>>> >>>>>> application: " This time I plan to work with the regional
>>> engagement teams
>>> >>>>>> on ICANN sessions, main focus this time will be on NCUC and its
>>> role at
>>> >>>>>> ICANN. I'm also planning on sending a presentation proposal.
>>> Until 2 March
>>> >>>>>> this can be done. I'll try to build this presentation with NCUC
>>> members" -
>>> >>>>>> this feels a little empty. Also her presentation proposal is not
>>> listed on
>>> >>>>>> the email, was it approved ?
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> [RAR] I believe when proposer sent this application the details
>>> for AIS
>>> >>>>> proposal weren't posted yet. Now they have and she did, sent to
>>> regional
>>> >>>>> list, main list and EC and received no objections. However, lots of
>>> >>>>> collaboration in the document
>>> >>>>> Proposal document
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-c6tsMtWCxBDHtbFL9OsGy6U
>>> uz1rzpx2qpgARR4SQbg/edit
>>> >>>>> Discussion on regional list Feb 14
>>> >>>>> https://lists.ncuc.org/pipermail/ncuc-af/2018-February/000256.html
>>> >>>>> Proposal on main list Feb 19
>>> >>>>> https://lists.ncuc.org/pipermail/ncuc-discuss/2018-February/
>>> 043731.html
>>> >>>>> Proposal on EC list Feb 20
>>> >>>>> https://lists.ncuc.org/pipermail/ncuc-ec/2018-February/008897.html
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>> CROP LAC - LACNIC29 + LACNOG
>>> >>>>>> https://lists.ncuc.org/pipermail/ncuc-ec/2018-February/00880
>>> 6.html
>>> >>>>>> Sent date 7Feb
>>> >>>>>> NCUC Session proposals: 2
>>> >>>>>> NCUC Session proposal status: provisional acceptance
>>> >>>>>> CROP Proposer: Roxanne John
>>> >>>>>> CROP Status: In evaluation by EC
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Vote: Yes with conditions! Presentation proposal looks consistent
>>> and
>>> >>>>>> is very good, apart from that 5 min for 3 speakers looks too
>>> little time. On
>>> >>>>>> a side note, I would like the applicant to be more active on the
>>> general
>>> >>>>>> presentation and less of a presenter or moderator (the proposal
>>> doesnt quite
>>> >>>>>> state who will be doing what). I also see no outreach plan such
>>> as (a) draft
>>> >>>>>> members, (b) participate on discussions on behalf of ncuc or any
>>> other
>>> >>>>>> possibility, the idea of developing outreach with GSE and not the
>>> >>>>>> constituency also seems a little off - Given that the member is
>>> from the LAC
>>> >>>>>> region, I would love if she could send her proposal to the list
>>> asking for
>>> >>>>>> input.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> [RAR] Proposals were also sent to list and received comments. I am
>>> >>>>> co-author of proposals.
>>> >>>>> Note that these proposals are only flash talk readouts of reports
>>> of
>>> >>>>> work NCUC did at IGF2017 and will do at WSIS.
>>> >>>>> Proposer will indicate, through her readout, what were the issues
>>> >>>>> discussed by NCUC at these venues and who did that discussion.
>>> >>>>> Also there is an idea of remote presentation by key policy people
>>> in
>>> >>>>> NCUC via a short video.
>>> >>>>> If the proposal is approved the arrangements for this will be made.
>>> >>>>> Proposal document (IGF2017 is the concrete one right now as we are
>>> >>>>> waiting for WSIS results)
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1iHn-npOfO4Q6WmBP3a5QU3A-
>>> rDoGiSaAlh2d5Vcgufo/edit
>>> >>>>> Proposal sent to list
>>> >>>>> https://lists.ncuc.org/pipermail/ncuc-discuss/2018-February/
>>> 043619.html
>>> >>>>> Proposal sent to EC list
>>> >>>>> https://lists.ncuc.org/pipermail/ncuc-ec/2018-February/008806.html
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> CROP NA - Rightscon
>>> >>>>>> https://lists.ncuc.org/pipermail/ncuc-ec/2017-December/00864
>>> 3.html
>>> >>>>>> Sent date 17 Dec
>>> >>>>>> NCUC Session proposal: 1
>>> >>>>>> NCUC Session proposal status: Accepted
>>> >>>>>> CROP Proposer: Michael Karanicolas
>>> >>>>>> CROP Status: In evaluation by EC
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Vote: Yes! This is the most developed CROP proposal of them all
>>> but one
>>> >>>>>> point for consideration would be to include other NCUC member in
>>> attendance
>>> >>>>>> both in the Panel composition and in the management of the booth
>>> - but for
>>> >>>>>> this we probably to have wait for the RightsCon funding requests
>>> to come
>>> >>>>>> back.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> best,
>>> >>>>>> b
>>> >>>>>> --
>>> >>>>>> Bruna Martins dos Santos
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> +55 61 99252-6512
>>> >>>>>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>>> >>>>>> @boomartins
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> --
>>> >>> Bruna Martins dos Santos
>>> >>>
>>> >>> +55 61 99252-6512
>>> >>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>>> >>> @boomartins
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> Bruna Martins dos Santos
>>> >>
>>> >> +55 61 99252-6512
>>> >> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>>> >> @boomartins
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>>
>>
>> --
>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>>
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>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
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