[NCUC-EC] announcing ICANN63 travel slot?

Wed Aug 29 20:29:42 CEST 2018

Renata

I will not answer (as usual) to the false information you are trying to
create. Our archives are public, no EC abstained including myself.

Please publicly correct the announcement you falsly made.

Le mercredi 29 août 2018, Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com> a écrit :
> Renata,
> I believe that the ask from 4/5 EC is clear. We would like that the
announcement be corrected as soon as possible.
> Best,
> Elsa
> —
> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 2:20 PM Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> Have you even been reading NCUC-EC archives?
>
> I've sent Maryam's emails, Mondini's emails, Ozan's emails, Adam Peake's
>
> Yes, there are concrete rules on CROP that every constituency should
> have 3 slots. We got ours yesterday!
>
> And I'm trying to put it to use with the pool of candidates that you
> selected for ICANN63.
>
> As to falseness and truth, you could have spoken on your 2nd slot too
> and you didn't and the deadline is passed.
>
> You abstained and that was your choice. Live with it.
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 3:05 PM, hfaiedh ines <hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com>
wrote:
>> Send us a concrete email from staff confirming what you are stating.
>> The CROP procedures were clarified to us by staff that it is for an
ICANN or
>> ICANN related event and all constituencies across ICANN enjoy the same
>> rights. Either ways, we will await for a confirmation or not on that.
>>
>> Now, the issue is not only CROP which was announced to be allocated
without
>> a single EC vote.The whole announcement is false including crop and one
of
>> the slots, and does not transmit EC decisions and must be publicly
>> corrected.
>>
>>
>> Le mercredi 29 août 2018, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com> a
écrit
>> :
>>> I don't think you understand the problem here.
>>>
>>> Not allocating CROP ICANN63 could mean even not having the other 2 next
>>> CROPs
>>>
>>> We had our plan approved when it was questioned by Mondini
>>>
>>> This is highly fragile funding right now
>>>
>>> And yes, should the EC wish out of spite, not to allocate to ICANN63
>>> slot, feel free.
>>>
>>> You'll be the ones responsible for also the next 2 and probably CROP
>>> extinction in the next round.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Renata
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 2:17 PM, Michael Karanicolas
>>> <mkaranicolas at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I agree with this.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 2:12 PM hfaiedh ines <hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>> So no CROP CALL for ICANN63 and no EC votes on CROP means no CROP
>>>>> ALLOCATION FOR any candidate for ICANN63.
>>>>> Next leadership will have two CROPs for ICANN64 and ICANN65, in
addition
>>>>> to a CROP for an ICANN-related event like GDD etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Again, nothing changes the facts.
>>>>>
>>>>> I kindly and respectfully also ask you to correct the public
>>>>> announcement
>>>>> you made.
>>>>>
>>>>> Le mercredi 29 août 2018, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com> a
>>>>> écrit :
>>>>> > Calls can not be made with less than 14 business days - Operating
>>>>> > Procedures
>>>>> > Also already asked and answered
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 1:53 PM, hfaiedh ines
>>>>> > <hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com>
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> >> 1. Shahul had majority for the first NCUC Fellowship Slot
>>>>> >> 2. Dina had only one vote on the second NCUC slot,
>>>>> >> 3. We had only two ECs thinking out loud, not really voting and
>>>>> >> oscilliating
>>>>> >> between Ben and Dina for the second NCUC Slot
>>>>> >> 4. We do not have any abstain from any EC on the record.
>>>>> >> 5. We did not have an ICANN63 CROP Call separate from NCUC
Fellowship
>>>>> >> so, no
>>>>> >> call, no applicants, no slot to allocate and more importantly not a
>>>>> >> single
>>>>> >> EC vote on CROP ICANN63.So no CROP ALLOCATION FROM NCUC FOR ICANN63
>>>>> >> 6. In addition to a procedural issue that myself and Bruna raised
>>>>> >> concerning
>>>>> >> the abscence of a call for CROP as other constituencies did, I was
>>>>> >> happy to
>>>>> >> learn from Mariam and Tapani that NPOC also has its 3 ICANN or
ICANN
>>>>> >> related
>>>>> >> events CROP.
>>>>> >> 7.Deadline to send a name is August 31st we are August 29th.
>>>>> >> 8. The announcement made on ncuc and ncsg members mailing list wont
>>>>> >> change
>>>>> >> anything to the facts listed above.
>>>>> >> 9. The public announcement on the travel smot allocations is
erronous
>>>>> >> and
>>>>> >> does not reflect EV decisions.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Le mercredi 29 août 2018, Bruna Martins dos Santos
>>>>> >> <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> a
>>>>> >> écrit :
>>>>> >>> Hey all,
>>>>> >>> The reason why the EC is a collegiate group is so that we make
>>>>> >>> decisions
>>>>> >>> collectively and provided the input from our peers. Whenever we
>>>>> >>> approach
>>>>> >>> debates assuming external factors such as "backchannel lobbying"
we
>>>>> >>> are not
>>>>> >>> only demeaning the group but also our peers capability of making a
>>>>> >>> decision
>>>>> >>> on their own, and this should never be the case.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Since the beginning we have approached debates and tallys in a
very
>>>>> >>> respectful manner and also observing our bylaws. If in some cases
>>>>> >>> our
>>>>> >>> EC
>>>>> >>> members did not get the chance to respond to an vote or weigh in a
>>>>> >>> subject,
>>>>> >>> consensus calls for the majority's will - if we had followed that
MO
>>>>> >>> Dina
>>>>> >>> should have had the funding instead of the CROP given that Michael
>>>>> >>> had
>>>>> >>> voted
>>>>> >>> for her. What bothers me about this specific situation, other than
>>>>> >>> the
>>>>> >>> personal attacks - a question suffered by some or all of us
>>>>> >>> previously
>>>>> >>> and
>>>>> >>> that we tried to address as a collegiate -, is that we gave a CROP
>>>>> >>> without a
>>>>> >>> call or even a mention of an allocation possibility that was
>>>>> >>> initially
>>>>> >>> directed to NCUC without going evaluating any CROP outreach plans
>>>>> >>> from
>>>>> >>> the
>>>>> >>> selected member. Had we announced that and I am pretty sure of
other
>>>>> >>> members
>>>>> >>> that could have possibly applied for this specific slot - as I
>>>>> >>> highlighted
>>>>> >>> in previous emails.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> As to the CROP slot deadline, there was never a clear
understanding
>>>>> >>> on
>>>>> >>> whether or not filling slot today or lets say in november would
>>>>> >>> imply
>>>>> >>> on
>>>>> >>> NCUC losing it. What would be lost if there wasnt any
announcements
>>>>> >>> today
>>>>> >>> was the opportunity of using this crop slot for the barcelona
>>>>> >>> meeting,
>>>>> >>> and
>>>>> >>> not the slot per se.
>>>>> >>> I really wish we had more conversations about this specific issue
>>>>> >>> instead
>>>>> >>> of arriving at this situation we find ourselves at rn.
>>>>> >>> Em qua, 29 de ago de 2018 às 13:40, Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com>
>>>>> >>> escreveu:
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> Hi Renata,
>>>>> >>>> I have all the right to abstain when I sense that I would be
making
>>>>> >>>> a
>>>>> >>>> decision without a proper base. I did not abstain this time
though,
>>>>> >>>> I
>>>>> >>>> rather
>>>>> >>>> waited, keepig an eye out for any deliberations that could affect
>>>>> >>>> how
>>>>> >>>> to
>>>>> >>>> weigh in NPOC Chair’s recommendation for instance. I understand
>>>>> >>>> there
>>>>> >>>> was a
>>>>> >>>> deadline, but I will never make a decision when I’m not entirely
>>>>> >>>> sure
>>>>> >>>> based
>>>>> >>>> on what I would be making it. And I have the right as well as the
>>>>> >>>> responsibility to do so.
>>>>> >>>> As for conflict of interest, I still haven’t taken up the role of
>>>>> >>>> GNSO
>>>>> >>>> Councilor, as mentioned several times, I am still acting as NCUC
EC
>>>>> >>>> AP until
>>>>> >>>> Barcelona. This was made clear in so many different exchanges
both
>>>>> >>>> formally
>>>>> >>>> and informally. Just FYI, I haven’t even been added to the GNSO
>>>>> >>>> Council
>>>>> >>>> mailing list as a councelor nor have I had handover, the only
>>>>> >>>> exchange that
>>>>> >>>> was made relating to this position was mitigating my presence in
>>>>> >>>> Barcelona
>>>>> >>>> for the start of my Councilor role. To have to justify this to
you,
>>>>> >>>> is quite
>>>>> >>>> surprising to me.
>>>>> >>>> In any case, this thread is aimed to speak about a specific
issue,
>>>>> >>>> and
>>>>> >>>> tackling the fact that on the list, it will seem like the EC
>>>>> >>>> actually
>>>>> >>>> made a
>>>>> >>>> final clear cut decision about the allocations, when we actually
>>>>> >>>> did
>>>>> >>>> not
>>>>> >>>> entirely do that. Let us refrain from opening side discussions
that
>>>>> >>>> I
>>>>> >>>> would
>>>>> >>>> tackle on a different thread.
>>>>> >>>> Best,
>>>>> >>>> Elsa
>>>>> >>>> —
>>>>> >>>> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 12:28 PM Renata Aquino Ribeiro
>>>>> >>>> <raquino at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Elsa,
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> You abstained on your 2nd vote and the deadline passed.
>>>>> >>>>> In fact, you always abstain on difficult decisions.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Right now, you are also omitting the conflict of interest of
being
>>>>> >>>>> EC
>>>>> >>>>> AP and GNSO Councillor, which I have asked you time and time
again
>>>>> >>>>> privately to address on the main NCUC list.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Please do it so
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Thanks
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 1:01 PM, Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com>
>>>>> >>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>> > Im honestly out of words as to the way this has unfolded. To
>>>>> >>>>> > start
>>>>> >>>>> > with the
>>>>> >>>>> > exchange between Farzi and Renata where it was implied that we
>>>>> >>>>> > were
>>>>> >>>>> > being
>>>>> >>>>> > manipulated into making a decision, to eventually making a
>>>>> >>>>> > choice
>>>>> >>>>> > for
>>>>> >>>>> > the EC
>>>>> >>>>> > due to the deadline. I do understand that there was a deadline
>>>>> >>>>> > and
>>>>> >>>>> > staff
>>>>> >>>>> > would be out for a longer time than we can afford, however, I
>>>>> >>>>> > personally saw
>>>>> >>>>> > a lot of potential in other candidates that I would have voted
>>>>> >>>>> > for, if
>>>>> >>>>> > there
>>>>> >>>>> > wasn’t so much confusion on how to weigh in, with the
different
>>>>> >>>>> > lobbying
>>>>> >>>>> > from all sides. I’m not sure as to what kind of standard we
will
>>>>> >>>>> > be
>>>>> >>>>> > handing
>>>>> >>>>> > over to the next EC. And it would be risky to just handover
the
>>>>> >>>>> > way we
>>>>> >>>>> > dealt
>>>>> >>>>> > with these allocations as is.
>>>>> >>>>> >
>>>>> >>>>> > Since the news is out, there isn’t much that can be done. But
>>>>> >>>>> > for
>>>>> >>>>> > the
>>>>> >>>>> > record, I believe there should be more trust in the EC’s
>>>>> >>>>> > capability of
>>>>> >>>>> > making a decision on their own without fear of interferance or
>>>>> >>>>> > ‘manipulation’, and there should be more of a comprehensive
>>>>> >>>>> > strategy
>>>>> >>>>> > when it
>>>>> >>>>> > comes to choosing candidates. Where are the newcomers in this
>>>>> >>>>> > batch of
>>>>> >>>>> > chosen candidates for instance? What’s the outcome of having
>>>>> >>>>> > them
>>>>> >>>>> > at
>>>>> >>>>> > ICANN63
>>>>> >>>>> > for us all? Is it serving the aim of policy development or
not?
>>>>> >>>>> > Of
>>>>> >>>>> > outreach?
>>>>> >>>>> > Of welcoming new faces? Of proper funding allocation?
>>>>> >>>>> >
>>>>> >>>>> > My two cents here.
>>>>> >>>>> >
>>>>> >>>>> > E.
>>>>> >>>>> > —
>>>>> >>>>> >
>>>>> >>>>> > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 11:49 AM Renata Aquino Ribeiro
>>>>> >>>>> > <raquino at gmail.com>
>>>>> >>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> >>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>>> >> Dear EC
>>>>> >>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>>> >> I am sorry but you missed the deadline for announcement for 2
>>>>> >>>>> >> days
>>>>> >>>>> >> already.
>>>>> >>>>> >> And yes, I did mention that we would very likely lose CROP
>>>>> >>>>> >> ICANN63
>>>>> >>>>> >> date if we don't use, as the recent reminder of Ozan implies.
>>>>> >>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>>> >> We are already losing 9000USD on website management funding
>>>>> >>>>> >> because
>>>>> >>>>> >> the EC did not come up with any contribution on this.
>>>>> >>>>> >> We discovered we had this funding in August and it is very
>>>>> >>>>> >> likely
>>>>> >>>>> >> the
>>>>> >>>>> >> new Chair may not be able to tap into it.
>>>>> >>>>> >> I haven't been able to address small suggestions to it.
>>>>> >>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>>> >> So we need to be more fiscally responsible to NCUC as well as
>>>>> >>>>> >> respecting our Operating Procedures.
>>>>> >>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>>> >> There is no time for  a call for ICANN63, we were questioned
2
>>>>> >>>>> >> days
>>>>> >>>>> >> ago, our staff is out until 10Sept.
>>>>> >>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>>> >> I understand the pressure on you but squandering funding is
the
>>>>> >>>>> >> worst
>>>>> >>>>> >> you can do.
>>>>> >>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>>> >> Best,
>>>>> >>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>>> >> Renata
>>>>> >>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>>> >> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 12:35 PM, Michael Karanicolas
>>>>> >>>>> >> <mkaranicolas at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>> >> > I also don't understand this course of action. As I
>>>>> >>>>> >> > understand
>>>>> >>>>> >> > it,
>>>>> >>>>> >> > we
>>>>> >>>>> >> > were
>>>>> >>>>> >> > deliberating the travel slots - and all that remained was
to
>>>>> >>>>> >> > decide
>>>>> >>>>> >> > between
>>>>> >>>>> >> > Ben or Dina. Nobody has suggested allocating the CROP and,
as
>>>>> >>>>> >> > Bruna
>>>>> >>>>> >> > says, we
>>>>> >>>>> >> > haven't done a proper call.
>>>>> >>>>> >> >
>>>>> >>>>> >> > I would suggest the Chair hold back on this, and we ask the
>>>>> >>>>> >> > EC
>>>>> >>>>> >> > folks who
>>>>> >>>>> >> > voted for Ben OR Dina to just pick one or the other, with a
>>>>> >>>>> >> > deadline of
>>>>> >>>>> >> > COB
>>>>> >>>>> >> > today.
>>>>> >>>>> >> >
>>>>> >>>>> >> >
>>>>> >>>>> >> > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 12:29 PM Renata Aquino Ribeiro
>>>>> >>>>> >> > <raquino at gmail.com>
>>>>> >>>>> >> > wrote:
>>>>> >>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> Dear Bruna
>>>>> >>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> Unfortunately I have time and time again given the EC the
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> opportunity
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> to participate on the CROP Outreach Plan, on the deadline
to
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> ICANN63
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> and on the weighing in on solutions.
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> I'm sorry you oppose now but we are out of options
>>>>> >>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> Best,
>>>>> >>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> Renata
>>>>> >>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 12:23 PM, Bruna Martins dos Santos
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> > We did not open a call for this one and it will raise
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> > questions
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> > in
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> > our
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> > membership as to why we gave it to Dina once this was
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> > never
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> > announced
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> > to
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> > the
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> > larger list. And also, I dont believe that there is such
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> > thing
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> > as an
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> > interpretation that if we dont use this crop NOW we are
to
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> > lose,
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> > given
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> > that
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> > the three slots shall be used until the end of FY19.
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> > Em qua, 29 de ago de 2018 às 12:18, Bruna Martins dos
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> > Santos
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> > <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> escreveu:
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >> Dear Renata,
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >> I am sorry but I oppose this idea. We were not
discussing
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >> CROP,
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >> we
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >> were
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >> discussing travel support.
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >> Em qua, 29 de ago de 2018 às 12:17, Renata Aquino
Ribeiro
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >> <raquino at gmail.com> escreveu:
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>>
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> Dear all
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>>
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> We should have announced this on the 27aug
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>>
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> We also have the CROP ICANN63 slot to an EU NCUC
member
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>>
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> We just received a reminder today to use it, at the
risk
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> of
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> losing
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> it
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>>
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> I have read all the emails and I'll do the following
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>>
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> Travel Support - 1st slot
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> Shahul Hameed
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>>
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> Travel Support - 2nd slot
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> Benjamin Akinmoyeje
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>>
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> CROP ICANN63
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> I'll work with Dina Thomas on a NCUC CROP outreach
plan
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> and
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> send it
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> to
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> the EC and to the CROP staff.
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>>
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> Best,
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>>
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> Renata
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>>
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>>
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>>
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>>
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>>
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 10:22 AM, Bruna Martins dos
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> Santos
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > Dear All,
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > I believe that according the advice provided by
Farzi
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > we
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > still
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > have
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > this
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > year to decide whether or not we are using this
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > support
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > exclusively
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > to
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > NCUC
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > members or if we are opening the selection to NPOC
and
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > NCSG
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > as
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > well
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > -
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > as we
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > did in this one - but as this selection is still
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > subjected
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > to
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > NCUC
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > EC I
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > believe that we should continue to perform by
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > selecting
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > the
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > funded
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > members
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > based on the quality of their outreach plans and
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > application
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > independently
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > of the approach we seek to follow - opening calls or
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > using
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > them
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > for
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > NCUC
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > only.
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > In that sense, I am also between Dina and Ben.
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > Dina provided a good application and is also
supported
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > by
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > NPOC
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > Leadership,
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > but I agree with Louise on the "her application
might
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > have
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > benefitted
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > from a
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > more concrete outline of how she has been working
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > within
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > PDPs -
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > or
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > tying PDP
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > experience as an observer with her policy writing".
I
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > very
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > much
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > appreciate
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > Dina's efforts regarding the Policy writing ad-hoc
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > group
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > she
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > tried
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > to
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > assemble, but I did not see it moving forward (and
am
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > not
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > implying
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > it
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > is her
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > fault either).
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > On the other hand, we have Ben who we approved on a
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > previous
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > call
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > and
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > due to
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > personal reasons was not able to attend the meeting.
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > Ben
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > is
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > has
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > been
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > involved in the RDS and the RPMs working group and
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > while
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > we
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > thought
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > that the
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > Policy meeting would be a moment for him to make
sense
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > of
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > what
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > has
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > been
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > discussed in the calls, he was not able to attend.
If
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > I
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > am
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > not
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > mistaken,
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > when we chatted about his situation in PR, and the
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > idea
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > of
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > re-considering
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > him for the subsequent call was at the table.
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > Given that I am very on the fence about the
selection
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > of
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > the
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > second
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > candidate, and that the two candidates are from EU
and
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > AF, I
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > would
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > be
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > more
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > than happy to follow the advice from our EU and AF
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > representatives.
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > And please, lets decide soon on this matter, the
more
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > we
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > delay
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > the
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > decision
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > the harder it becomes to our funded members to find
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > tickets
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > within
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > the
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > price
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > range. Barcelona is in less than two months!
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > best,
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > B.
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > Em ter, 28 de ago de 2018 às 10:15, Louise Marie
Hurel
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > <louise.marie.hsd at gmail.com> escreveu:
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> Dear all,
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> First, I'd like to kindly thank Joan for her
inputs.
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> Second, I cast my first vote to Shahul. As my
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> colleagues
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> have
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> already
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> highlighted, he has been actively engaging in
policy
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> writing and
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> shows
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> promising development within our community -- he
has
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> shown
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> consistent
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> commitment and dedication. His application was
clear,
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> consistent
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> and
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> grounded. I think he would also benefit greatly
from
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> the
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> opportunity
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> to
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> participate on-site and hopefully lay deeper
grounds
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> for
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> further
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> engagement
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> within the NCUC.
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> Quite frankly, my second vote goes to either
Benjamin
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> or
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> Dina.
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> Let
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> me
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> take
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> a few lines to explain why - given NPOC Chair's
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> support
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> for
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> Dina. I
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> have had
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> the opportunity to work with her in the past two
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> meetings
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> at the
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> onboarding
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> program. She is committed and has engaged in
drafting
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> comments -
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> a
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> strong
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> applicant. Although her application might have
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> benefitted
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> from a
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> more
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> concrete outline of how she has been working within
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> PDPs -
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> or
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> tying
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> PDP
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> experience as an observer with her policy writing
(a
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> general way
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> of
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> gaining
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> insights and perspectives from other stakeholder
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> groups
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> and/or
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> maturity in
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> navigating ICANN). On the other hand, I also think
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> that
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> we
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> need
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> to
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> give
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> space for new applicants, and that includes giving
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> Ben
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> an
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> opportunity,
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> as he
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> has, unfortunately, not been able to attend the
last
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> meeting due
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> to
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> visa
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> issues. He also submitted a good application,
clearly
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> demonstrating
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> consistency in participating and following two PDPs
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> and
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> looking
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> for
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> mentorship. My only question here is that while he
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> states
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> that
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> he
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> would do
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> his best to "keep along with the ICANN63 sessions
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> especially
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> those
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> that
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> concern the NCUC and NCSG" he didn't explain how
the
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> slot
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> would
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> also
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> play
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> into his volunteer work on NPOC's PC, in
particular.
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> I
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> think
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> that
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> this
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> might
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> have been an opportunity for him to provide a more
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> robust
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> account
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> of a
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> grounded plan for engagement in this next meeting.
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> As observed, I outlined both the pros and cons of
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> their
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> applications.
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> I
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> don't think there's a clear shot here and thus
count
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> on
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> my
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> peers
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> to
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> either
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> provide further insights to their decision that
might
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> aid
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> in the
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> allocation
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> of this slot or, rely on a majority of voters for
one
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> or
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> the
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> other.
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> Hope this provides a fair account of my decision.
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> Kind regards,
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> Louise Marie Hurel
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> Cybersecurity Project Coordinator | Igarapé
Institute
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> London School of Economics (LSE) Media and
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> Communications
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> (Data
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> and
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> Society)
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> Skype: louise.dias
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> +44 (0) 7468 906327
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> l.h.dias at lse.ac.uk
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> louise.marie.hsd at gmail.com
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> On Mon, 27 Aug 2018 at 18:43, Renata Aquino Ribeiro
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> <raquino at gmail.com>
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>>
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> Thank you Joan for your clarification.
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>>
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 2:41 PM, Joan Kerr
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> <joankerr at fbsc.org>
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Hi Renata, All
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > NPOC is supporting Dina for a number of reasons.
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > She
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > has
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > been
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > working
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > hard
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > with the newly formed PC and has a lot of
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > experience
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > in
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > policy
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > and
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > processes.  NPOC feels Dina is the right choice
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > and
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > will
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > be
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > instrumental in
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > assisting with the policy going forward.
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Thanks,
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 1:23 PM Renata Aquino
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Ribeiro
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > <raquino at gmail.com>
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > wrote:
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >>
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> Dear Joan
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >>
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> Please see inquiry from one of the NCUC EC
reps.
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >>
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 1:47 PM, Bruna Martins
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> dos
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> Santos
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > Dear all,
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > My first vote went to Shahul, and as I am
still
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > to
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > decide
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > who
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > will
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > get
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > the
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > second slot Im more prone to vote either o
Ben
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > or
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > Farell,
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > who
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > is
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > also a
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > NPOC
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > member I believe.
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > Renata, do you think that would be the case
for
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > asking
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > Joan
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > whether
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > or
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > not
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > she'd recommend a second name since Remmy
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > withdrew
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > his
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > candidacy
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > ?
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > best,
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > B.
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > Em dom, 26 de ago de 2018 às 21:59, Renata
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > Aquino
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > Ribeiro
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > <raquino at gmail.com> escreveu:
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >>
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> Dear EC
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >>
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> It is time to announce the ICANN63 travel
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> slots.
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> Please decide soon.
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >>
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> Thanks
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >>
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >>
_______________________________________________
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> NCUC-EC mailing list
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >>
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >>
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >>
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >>
https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > --
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > Bruna Martins dos Santos
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > @boomartins
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > --
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Joan Kerr,
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Entrepreneur, Artist, Humanitarian
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > T: +1 (416) 907-0783
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Skype: joankerr_fbsc
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > fbsc.org, www.fbsc.eco
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Chair: Victory Garden Leadership Implementation
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Team
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Chair, Sustainable Agriculture, Global
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Humanitarian
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Technology
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Conference
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Chair: IEEE Smart Villages Project, Sustainable
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Agriculture
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Working
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Group
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Chair: ICANN Not for Profit Operational Concerns
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Constituency
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Recipient of the United Nations Civil Society
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Award
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > (WSIS
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > 2004)
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Recipient, Region of Durham Community
Partnership
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Award
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Advisor, IEEE Humanitarian Initiatives Committee
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Advisor, Climate Smart Agriculture Youth
Network,
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > (CSAYN)
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Global
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Coordination Unit
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> NCUC-EC mailing list
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>>
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>>
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>>
https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> NCUC-EC mailing list
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>
https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > --
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > Bruna Martins dos Santos
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > @boomartins
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >> --
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >> Bruna Martins dos Santos
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >> @boomartins
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> > --
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> > Bruna Martins dos Santos
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> > Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> > @boomartins
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> _______________________________________________
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> NCUC-EC mailing list
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
>>>>> >>>>> >> >> https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec
>>>>> >>>>> >> _______________________________________________
>>>>> >>>>> >> NCUC-EC mailing list
>>>>> >>>>> >> NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
>>>>> >>>>> >> https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec
>>>>> >>>>> >
>>>>> >>>>> > --
>>>>> >>>>> > --
>>>>> >>>>> >
>>>>> >>>>> > Elsa Saade
>>>>> >>>>> > Consultant
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