[NCUC-EC] announcing ICANN63 travel slot?

Elsa S elsa.saade at gmail.com
Wed Aug 29 20:25:36 CEST 2018


Renata,

I believe that the ask from 4/5 EC is clear. We would like that the
announcement be corrected as soon as possible.

Best,

Elsa
—

On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 2:20 PM Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Have you even been reading NCUC-EC archives?
>
> I've sent Maryam's emails, Mondini's emails, Ozan's emails, Adam Peake's
>
> Yes, there are concrete rules on CROP that every constituency should
> have 3 slots. We got ours yesterday!
>
> And I'm trying to put it to use with the pool of candidates that you
> selected for ICANN63.
>
> As to falseness and truth, you could have spoken on your 2nd slot too
> and you didn't and the deadline is passed.
>
> You abstained and that was your choice. Live with it.
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 3:05 PM, hfaiedh ines <hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Send us a concrete email from staff confirming what you are stating.
> > The CROP procedures were clarified to us by staff that it is for an
> ICANN or
> > ICANN related event and all constituencies across ICANN enjoy the same
> > rights. Either ways, we will await for a confirmation or not on that.
> >
> > Now, the issue is not only CROP which was announced to be allocated
> without
> > a single EC vote.The whole announcement is false including crop and one
> of
> > the slots, and does not transmit EC decisions and must be publicly
> > corrected.
> >
> >
> > Le mercredi 29 août 2018, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com> a
> écrit
> > :
> >> I don't think you understand the problem here.
> >>
> >> Not allocating CROP ICANN63 could mean even not having the other 2 next
> >> CROPs
> >>
> >> We had our plan approved when it was questioned by Mondini
> >>
> >> This is highly fragile funding right now
> >>
> >> And yes, should the EC wish out of spite, not to allocate to ICANN63
> >> slot, feel free.
> >>
> >> You'll be the ones responsible for also the next 2 and probably CROP
> >> extinction in the next round.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >>
> >> Renata
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 2:17 PM, Michael Karanicolas
> >> <mkaranicolas at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> I agree with this.
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 2:12 PM hfaiedh ines <hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks.
> >>>> So no CROP CALL for ICANN63 and no EC votes on CROP means no CROP
> >>>> ALLOCATION FOR any candidate for ICANN63.
> >>>> Next leadership will have two CROPs for ICANN64 and ICANN65, in
> addition
> >>>> to a CROP for an ICANN-related event like GDD etc.
> >>>>
> >>>> Again, nothing changes the facts.
> >>>>
> >>>> I kindly and respectfully also ask you to correct the public
> >>>> announcement
> >>>> you made.
> >>>>
> >>>> Le mercredi 29 août 2018, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com> a
> >>>> écrit :
> >>>> > Calls can not be made with less than 14 business days - Operating
> >>>> > Procedures
> >>>> > Also already asked and answered
> >>>> >
> >>>> > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 1:53 PM, hfaiedh ines
> >>>> > <hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com>
> >>>> > wrote:
> >>>> >> 1. Shahul had majority for the first NCUC Fellowship Slot
> >>>> >> 2. Dina had only one vote on the second NCUC slot,
> >>>> >> 3. We had only two ECs thinking out loud, not really voting and
> >>>> >> oscilliating
> >>>> >> between Ben and Dina for the second NCUC Slot
> >>>> >> 4. We do not have any abstain from any EC on the record.
> >>>> >> 5. We did not have an ICANN63 CROP Call separate from NCUC
> Fellowship
> >>>> >> so, no
> >>>> >> call, no applicants, no slot to allocate and more importantly not a
> >>>> >> single
> >>>> >> EC vote on CROP ICANN63.So no CROP ALLOCATION FROM NCUC FOR ICANN63
> >>>> >> 6. In addition to a procedural issue that myself and Bruna raised
> >>>> >> concerning
> >>>> >> the abscence of a call for CROP as other constituencies did, I was
> >>>> >> happy to
> >>>> >> learn from Mariam and Tapani that NPOC also has its 3 ICANN or
> ICANN
> >>>> >> related
> >>>> >> events CROP.
> >>>> >> 7.Deadline to send a name is August 31st we are August 29th.
> >>>> >> 8. The announcement made on ncuc and ncsg members mailing list wont
> >>>> >> change
> >>>> >> anything to the facts listed above.
> >>>> >> 9. The public announcement on the travel smot allocations is
> erronous
> >>>> >> and
> >>>> >> does not reflect EV decisions.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Le mercredi 29 août 2018, Bruna Martins dos Santos
> >>>> >> <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> a
> >>>> >> écrit :
> >>>> >>> Hey all,
> >>>> >>> The reason why the EC is a collegiate group is so that we make
> >>>> >>> decisions
> >>>> >>> collectively and provided the input from our peers. Whenever we
> >>>> >>> approach
> >>>> >>> debates assuming external factors such as "backchannel lobbying"
> we
> >>>> >>> are not
> >>>> >>> only demeaning the group but also our peers capability of making a
> >>>> >>> decision
> >>>> >>> on their own, and this should never be the case.
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> Since the beginning we have approached debates and tallys in a
> very
> >>>> >>> respectful manner and also observing our bylaws. If in some cases
> >>>> >>> our
> >>>> >>> EC
> >>>> >>> members did not get the chance to respond to an vote or weigh in a
> >>>> >>> subject,
> >>>> >>> consensus calls for the majority's will - if we had followed that
> MO
> >>>> >>> Dina
> >>>> >>> should have had the funding instead of the CROP given that Michael
> >>>> >>> had
> >>>> >>> voted
> >>>> >>> for her. What bothers me about this specific situation, other than
> >>>> >>> the
> >>>> >>> personal attacks - a question suffered by some or all of us
> >>>> >>> previously
> >>>> >>> and
> >>>> >>> that we tried to address as a collegiate -, is that we gave a CROP
> >>>> >>> without a
> >>>> >>> call or even a mention of an allocation possibility that was
> >>>> >>> initially
> >>>> >>> directed to NCUC without going evaluating any CROP outreach plans
> >>>> >>> from
> >>>> >>> the
> >>>> >>> selected member. Had we announced that and I am pretty sure of
> other
> >>>> >>> members
> >>>> >>> that could have possibly applied for this specific slot - as I
> >>>> >>> highlighted
> >>>> >>> in previous emails.
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> As to the CROP slot deadline, there was never a clear
> understanding
> >>>> >>> on
> >>>> >>> whether or not filling slot today or lets say in november would
> >>>> >>> imply
> >>>> >>> on
> >>>> >>> NCUC losing it. What would be lost if there wasnt any
> announcements
> >>>> >>> today
> >>>> >>> was the opportunity of using this crop slot for the barcelona
> >>>> >>> meeting,
> >>>> >>> and
> >>>> >>> not the slot per se.
> >>>> >>> I really wish we had more conversations about this specific issue
> >>>> >>> instead
> >>>> >>> of arriving at this situation we find ourselves at rn.
> >>>> >>> Em qua, 29 de ago de 2018 às 13:40, Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com>
> >>>> >>> escreveu:
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> Hi Renata,
> >>>> >>>> I have all the right to abstain when I sense that I would be
> making
> >>>> >>>> a
> >>>> >>>> decision without a proper base. I did not abstain this time
> though,
> >>>> >>>> I
> >>>> >>>> rather
> >>>> >>>> waited, keepig an eye out for any deliberations that could affect
> >>>> >>>> how
> >>>> >>>> to
> >>>> >>>> weigh in NPOC Chair’s recommendation for instance. I understand
> >>>> >>>> there
> >>>> >>>> was a
> >>>> >>>> deadline, but I will never make a decision when I’m not entirely
> >>>> >>>> sure
> >>>> >>>> based
> >>>> >>>> on what I would be making it. And I have the right as well as the
> >>>> >>>> responsibility to do so.
> >>>> >>>> As for conflict of interest, I still haven’t taken up the role of
> >>>> >>>> GNSO
> >>>> >>>> Councilor, as mentioned several times, I am still acting as NCUC
> EC
> >>>> >>>> AP until
> >>>> >>>> Barcelona. This was made clear in so many different exchanges
> both
> >>>> >>>> formally
> >>>> >>>> and informally. Just FYI, I haven’t even been added to the GNSO
> >>>> >>>> Council
> >>>> >>>> mailing list as a councelor nor have I had handover, the only
> >>>> >>>> exchange that
> >>>> >>>> was made relating to this position was mitigating my presence in
> >>>> >>>> Barcelona
> >>>> >>>> for the start of my Councilor role. To have to justify this to
> you,
> >>>> >>>> is quite
> >>>> >>>> surprising to me.
> >>>> >>>> In any case, this thread is aimed to speak about a specific
> issue,
> >>>> >>>> and
> >>>> >>>> tackling the fact that on the list, it will seem like the EC
> >>>> >>>> actually
> >>>> >>>> made a
> >>>> >>>> final clear cut decision about the allocations, when we actually
> >>>> >>>> did
> >>>> >>>> not
> >>>> >>>> entirely do that. Let us refrain from opening side discussions
> that
> >>>> >>>> I
> >>>> >>>> would
> >>>> >>>> tackle on a different thread.
> >>>> >>>> Best,
> >>>> >>>> Elsa
> >>>> >>>> —
> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 12:28 PM Renata Aquino Ribeiro
> >>>> >>>> <raquino at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>> >>>>> Elsa,
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>> >>>>> You abstained on your 2nd vote and the deadline passed.
> >>>> >>>>> In fact, you always abstain on difficult decisions.
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>> >>>>> Right now, you are also omitting the conflict of interest of
> being
> >>>> >>>>> EC
> >>>> >>>>> AP and GNSO Councillor, which I have asked you time and time
> again
> >>>> >>>>> privately to address on the main NCUC list.
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>> >>>>> Please do it so
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>> >>>>> Thanks
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>> >>>>> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 1:01 PM, Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com>
> >>>> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>> >>>>> > Im honestly out of words as to the way this has unfolded. To
> >>>> >>>>> > start
> >>>> >>>>> > with the
> >>>> >>>>> > exchange between Farzi and Renata where it was implied that we
> >>>> >>>>> > were
> >>>> >>>>> > being
> >>>> >>>>> > manipulated into making a decision, to eventually making a
> >>>> >>>>> > choice
> >>>> >>>>> > for
> >>>> >>>>> > the EC
> >>>> >>>>> > due to the deadline. I do understand that there was a deadline
> >>>> >>>>> > and
> >>>> >>>>> > staff
> >>>> >>>>> > would be out for a longer time than we can afford, however, I
> >>>> >>>>> > personally saw
> >>>> >>>>> > a lot of potential in other candidates that I would have voted
> >>>> >>>>> > for, if
> >>>> >>>>> > there
> >>>> >>>>> > wasn’t so much confusion on how to weigh in, with the
> different
> >>>> >>>>> > lobbying
> >>>> >>>>> > from all sides. I’m not sure as to what kind of standard we
> will
> >>>> >>>>> > be
> >>>> >>>>> > handing
> >>>> >>>>> > over to the next EC. And it would be risky to just handover
> the
> >>>> >>>>> > way we
> >>>> >>>>> > dealt
> >>>> >>>>> > with these allocations as is.
> >>>> >>>>> >
> >>>> >>>>> > Since the news is out, there isn’t much that can be done. But
> >>>> >>>>> > for
> >>>> >>>>> > the
> >>>> >>>>> > record, I believe there should be more trust in the EC’s
> >>>> >>>>> > capability of
> >>>> >>>>> > making a decision on their own without fear of interferance or
> >>>> >>>>> > ‘manipulation’, and there should be more of a comprehensive
> >>>> >>>>> > strategy
> >>>> >>>>> > when it
> >>>> >>>>> > comes to choosing candidates. Where are the newcomers in this
> >>>> >>>>> > batch of
> >>>> >>>>> > chosen candidates for instance? What’s the outcome of having
> >>>> >>>>> > them
> >>>> >>>>> > at
> >>>> >>>>> > ICANN63
> >>>> >>>>> > for us all? Is it serving the aim of policy development or
> not?
> >>>> >>>>> > Of
> >>>> >>>>> > outreach?
> >>>> >>>>> > Of welcoming new faces? Of proper funding allocation?
> >>>> >>>>> >
> >>>> >>>>> > My two cents here.
> >>>> >>>>> >
> >>>> >>>>> > E.
> >>>> >>>>> > —
> >>>> >>>>> >
> >>>> >>>>> > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 11:49 AM Renata Aquino Ribeiro
> >>>> >>>>> > <raquino at gmail.com>
> >>>> >>>>> > wrote:
> >>>> >>>>> >>
> >>>> >>>>> >> Dear EC
> >>>> >>>>> >>
> >>>> >>>>> >> I am sorry but you missed the deadline for announcement for 2
> >>>> >>>>> >> days
> >>>> >>>>> >> already.
> >>>> >>>>> >> And yes, I did mention that we would very likely lose CROP
> >>>> >>>>> >> ICANN63
> >>>> >>>>> >> date if we don't use, as the recent reminder of Ozan implies.
> >>>> >>>>> >>
> >>>> >>>>> >> We are already losing 9000USD on website management funding
> >>>> >>>>> >> because
> >>>> >>>>> >> the EC did not come up with any contribution on this.
> >>>> >>>>> >> We discovered we had this funding in August and it is very
> >>>> >>>>> >> likely
> >>>> >>>>> >> the
> >>>> >>>>> >> new Chair may not be able to tap into it.
> >>>> >>>>> >> I haven't been able to address small suggestions to it.
> >>>> >>>>> >>
> >>>> >>>>> >> So we need to be more fiscally responsible to NCUC as well as
> >>>> >>>>> >> respecting our Operating Procedures.
> >>>> >>>>> >>
> >>>> >>>>> >> There is no time for  a call for ICANN63, we were questioned
> 2
> >>>> >>>>> >> days
> >>>> >>>>> >> ago, our staff is out until 10Sept.
> >>>> >>>>> >>
> >>>> >>>>> >> I understand the pressure on you but squandering funding is
> the
> >>>> >>>>> >> worst
> >>>> >>>>> >> you can do.
> >>>> >>>>> >>
> >>>> >>>>> >> Best,
> >>>> >>>>> >>
> >>>> >>>>> >> Renata
> >>>> >>>>> >>
> >>>> >>>>> >>
> >>>> >>>>> >>
> >>>> >>>>> >>
> >>>> >>>>> >>
> >>>> >>>>> >> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 12:35 PM, Michael Karanicolas
> >>>> >>>>> >> <mkaranicolas at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> >>>>> >> > I also don't understand this course of action. As I
> >>>> >>>>> >> > understand
> >>>> >>>>> >> > it,
> >>>> >>>>> >> > we
> >>>> >>>>> >> > were
> >>>> >>>>> >> > deliberating the travel slots - and all that remained was
> to
> >>>> >>>>> >> > decide
> >>>> >>>>> >> > between
> >>>> >>>>> >> > Ben or Dina. Nobody has suggested allocating the CROP and,
> as
> >>>> >>>>> >> > Bruna
> >>>> >>>>> >> > says, we
> >>>> >>>>> >> > haven't done a proper call.
> >>>> >>>>> >> >
> >>>> >>>>> >> > I would suggest the Chair hold back on this, and we ask the
> >>>> >>>>> >> > EC
> >>>> >>>>> >> > folks who
> >>>> >>>>> >> > voted for Ben OR Dina to just pick one or the other, with a
> >>>> >>>>> >> > deadline of
> >>>> >>>>> >> > COB
> >>>> >>>>> >> > today.
> >>>> >>>>> >> >
> >>>> >>>>> >> >
> >>>> >>>>> >> > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 12:29 PM Renata Aquino Ribeiro
> >>>> >>>>> >> > <raquino at gmail.com>
> >>>> >>>>> >> > wrote:
> >>>> >>>>> >> >>
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> Dear Bruna
> >>>> >>>>> >> >>
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> Unfortunately I have time and time again given the EC the
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> opportunity
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> to participate on the CROP Outreach Plan, on the deadline
> to
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> ICANN63
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> and on the weighing in on solutions.
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> I'm sorry you oppose now but we are out of options
> >>>> >>>>> >> >>
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> Best,
> >>>> >>>>> >> >>
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> Renata
> >>>> >>>>> >> >>
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 12:23 PM, Bruna Martins dos Santos
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> > We did not open a call for this one and it will raise
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> > questions
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> > in
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> > our
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> > membership as to why we gave it to Dina once this was
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> > never
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> > announced
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> > to
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> > the
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> > larger list. And also, I dont believe that there is such
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> > thing
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> > as an
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> > interpretation that if we dont use this crop NOW we are
> to
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> > lose,
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> > given
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> > that
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> > the three slots shall be used until the end of FY19.
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> > Em qua, 29 de ago de 2018 às 12:18, Bruna Martins dos
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> > Santos
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> > <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> escreveu:
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >> Dear Renata,
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >> I am sorry but I oppose this idea. We were not
> discussing
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >> CROP,
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >> we
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >> were
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >> discussing travel support.
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >> Em qua, 29 de ago de 2018 às 12:17, Renata Aquino
> Ribeiro
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >> <raquino at gmail.com> escreveu:
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>>
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> Dear all
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>>
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> We should have announced this on the 27aug
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>>
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> We also have the CROP ICANN63 slot to an EU NCUC
> member
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>>
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> We just received a reminder today to use it, at the
> risk
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> of
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> losing
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> it
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>>
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> I have read all the emails and I'll do the following
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>>
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> Travel Support - 1st slot
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> Shahul Hameed
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>>
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> Travel Support - 2nd slot
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> Benjamin Akinmoyeje
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>>
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> CROP ICANN63
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> I'll work with Dina Thomas on a NCUC CROP outreach
> plan
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> and
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> send it
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> to
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> the EC and to the CROP staff.
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>>
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> Best,
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>>
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> Renata
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>>
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>>
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>>
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>>
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>>
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 10:22 AM, Bruna Martins dos
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> Santos
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > Dear All,
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > I believe that according the advice provided by
> Farzi
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > we
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > still
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > have
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > this
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > year to decide whether or not we are using this
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > support
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > exclusively
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > to
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > NCUC
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > members or if we are opening the selection to NPOC
> and
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > NCSG
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > as
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > well
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > -
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > as we
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > did in this one - but as this selection is still
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > subjected
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > to
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > NCUC
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > EC I
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > believe that we should continue to perform by
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > selecting
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > the
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > funded
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > members
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > based on the quality of their outreach plans and
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > application
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > independently
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > of the approach we seek to follow - opening calls or
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > using
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > them
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > for
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > NCUC
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > only.
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > In that sense, I am also between Dina and Ben.
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > Dina provided a good application and is also
> supported
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > by
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > NPOC
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > Leadership,
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > but I agree with Louise on the "her application
> might
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > have
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > benefitted
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > from a
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > more concrete outline of how she has been working
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > within
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > PDPs -
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > or
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > tying PDP
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > experience as an observer with her policy writing".
> I
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > very
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > much
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > appreciate
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > Dina's efforts regarding the Policy writing ad-hoc
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > group
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > she
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > tried
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > to
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > assemble, but I did not see it moving forward (and
> am
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > not
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > implying
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > it
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > is her
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > fault either).
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > On the other hand, we have Ben who we approved on a
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > previous
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > call
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > and
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > due to
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > personal reasons was not able to attend the meeting.
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > Ben
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > is
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > has
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > been
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > involved in the RDS and the RPMs working group and
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > while
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > we
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > thought
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > that the
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > Policy meeting would be a moment for him to make
> sense
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > of
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > what
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > has
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > been
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > discussed in the calls, he was not able to attend.
> If
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > I
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > am
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > not
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > mistaken,
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > when we chatted about his situation in PR, and the
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > idea
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > of
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > re-considering
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > him for the subsequent call was at the table.
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > Given that I am very on the fence about the
> selection
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > of
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > the
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > second
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > candidate, and that the two candidates are from EU
> and
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > AF, I
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > would
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > be
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > more
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > than happy to follow the advice from our EU and AF
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > representatives.
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > And please, lets decide soon on this matter, the
> more
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > we
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > delay
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > the
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > decision
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > the harder it becomes to our funded members to find
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > tickets
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > within
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > the
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > price
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > range. Barcelona is in less than two months!
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > best,
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > B.
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > Em ter, 28 de ago de 2018 às 10:15, Louise Marie
> Hurel
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > <louise.marie.hsd at gmail.com> escreveu:
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> Dear all,
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> First, I'd like to kindly thank Joan for her
> inputs.
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> Second, I cast my first vote to Shahul. As my
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> colleagues
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> have
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> already
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> highlighted, he has been actively engaging in
> policy
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> writing and
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> shows
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> promising development within our community -- he
> has
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> shown
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> consistent
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> commitment and dedication. His application was
> clear,
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> consistent
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> and
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> grounded. I think he would also benefit greatly
> from
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> the
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> opportunity
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> to
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> participate on-site and hopefully lay deeper
> grounds
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> for
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> further
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> engagement
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> within the NCUC.
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> Quite frankly, my second vote goes to either
> Benjamin
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> or
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> Dina.
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> Let
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> me
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> take
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> a few lines to explain why - given NPOC Chair's
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> support
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> for
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> Dina. I
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> have had
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> the opportunity to work with her in the past two
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> meetings
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> at the
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> onboarding
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> program. She is committed and has engaged in
> drafting
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> comments -
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> a
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> strong
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> applicant. Although her application might have
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> benefitted
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> from a
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> more
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> concrete outline of how she has been working within
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> PDPs -
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> or
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> tying
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> PDP
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> experience as an observer with her policy writing
> (a
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> general way
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> of
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> gaining
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> insights and perspectives from other stakeholder
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> groups
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> and/or
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> maturity in
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> navigating ICANN). On the other hand, I also think
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> that
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> we
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> need
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> to
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> give
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> space for new applicants, and that includes giving
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> Ben
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> an
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> opportunity,
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> as he
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> has, unfortunately, not been able to attend the
> last
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> meeting due
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> to
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> visa
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> issues. He also submitted a good application,
> clearly
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> demonstrating
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> consistency in participating and following two PDPs
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> and
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> looking
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> for
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> mentorship. My only question here is that while he
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> states
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> that
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> he
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> would do
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> his best to "keep along with the ICANN63 sessions
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> especially
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> those
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> that
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> concern the NCUC and NCSG" he didn't explain how
> the
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> slot
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> would
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> also
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> play
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> into his volunteer work on NPOC's PC, in
> particular.
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> I
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> think
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> that
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> this
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> might
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> have been an opportunity for him to provide a more
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> robust
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> account
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> of a
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> grounded plan for engagement in this next meeting.
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> As observed, I outlined both the pros and cons of
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> their
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> applications.
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> I
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> don't think there's a clear shot here and thus
> count
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> on
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> my
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> peers
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> to
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> either
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> provide further insights to their decision that
> might
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> aid
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> in the
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> allocation
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> of this slot or, rely on a majority of voters for
> one
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> or
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> the
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> other.
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> Hope this provides a fair account of my decision.
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> Kind regards,
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> Louise Marie Hurel
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> Cybersecurity Project Coordinator | Igarapé
> Institute
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> London School of Economics (LSE) Media and
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> Communications
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> (Data
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> and
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> Society)
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> Skype: louise.dias
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> +44 (0) 7468 906327
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> l.h.dias at lse.ac.uk
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> louise.marie.hsd at gmail.com
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> On Mon, 27 Aug 2018 at 18:43, Renata Aquino Ribeiro
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> <raquino at gmail.com>
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> wrote:
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>>
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> Thank you Joan for your clarification.
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>>
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 2:41 PM, Joan Kerr
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> <joankerr at fbsc.org>
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> wrote:
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Hi Renata, All
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > NPOC is supporting Dina for a number of reasons.
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > She
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > has
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > been
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > working
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > hard
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > with the newly formed PC and has a lot of
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > experience
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > in
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > policy
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > and
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > processes.  NPOC feels Dina is the right choice
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > and
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > will
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > be
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > instrumental in
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > assisting with the policy going forward.
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Thanks,
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 1:23 PM Renata Aquino
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Ribeiro
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > <raquino at gmail.com>
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > wrote:
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >>
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> Dear Joan
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >>
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> Please see inquiry from one of the NCUC EC
> reps.
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >>
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 1:47 PM, Bruna Martins
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> dos
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> Santos
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > Dear all,
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > My first vote went to Shahul, and as I am
> still
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > to
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > decide
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > who
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > will
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > get
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > the
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > second slot Im more prone to vote either o
> Ben
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > or
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > Farell,
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > who
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > is
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > also a
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > NPOC
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > member I believe.
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > Renata, do you think that would be the case
> for
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > asking
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > Joan
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > whether
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > or
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > not
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > she'd recommend a second name since Remmy
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > withdrew
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > his
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > candidacy
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > ?
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > best,
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > B.
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > Em dom, 26 de ago de 2018 às 21:59, Renata
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > Aquino
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > Ribeiro
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > <raquino at gmail.com> escreveu:
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >>
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> Dear EC
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >>
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> It is time to announce the ICANN63 travel
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> slots.
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> Please decide soon.
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >>
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> Thanks
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >>
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >>
> _______________________________________________
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> NCUC-EC mailing list
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >>
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >>
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >>
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >>
> https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > --
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > Bruna Martins dos Santos
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > @boomartins
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > --
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Joan Kerr,
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Entrepreneur, Artist, Humanitarian
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > T: +1 (416) 907-0783
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Skype: joankerr_fbsc
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > fbsc.org, www.fbsc.eco
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Chair: Victory Garden Leadership Implementation
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Team
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Chair, Sustainable Agriculture, Global
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Humanitarian
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Technology
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Conference
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Chair: IEEE Smart Villages Project, Sustainable
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Agriculture
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Working
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Group
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Chair: ICANN Not for Profit Operational Concerns
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Constituency
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Recipient of the United Nations Civil Society
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Award
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > (WSIS
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > 2004)
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Recipient, Region of Durham Community
> Partnership
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Award
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Advisor, IEEE Humanitarian Initiatives Committee
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Advisor, Climate Smart Agriculture Youth
> Network,
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > (CSAYN)
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Global
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Coordination Unit
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> NCUC-EC mailing list
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>>
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>>
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>>
> https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> NCUC-EC mailing list
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>
> https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > --
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > Bruna Martins dos Santos
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>> > @boomartins
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >> --
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >> Bruna Martins dos Santos
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >>
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >> @boomartins
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> > --
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> > Bruna Martins dos Santos
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> > Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> > @boomartins
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> _______________________________________________
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> NCUC-EC mailing list
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
> >>>> >>>>> >> >> https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec
> >>>> >>>>> >> _______________________________________________
> >>>> >>>>> >> NCUC-EC mailing list
> >>>> >>>>> >> NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
> >>>> >>>>> >> https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec
> >>>> >>>>> >
> >>>> >>>>> > --
> >>>> >>>>> > --
> >>>> >>>>> >
> >>>> >>>>> > Elsa Saade
> >>>> >>>>> > Consultant
> >>>> >>>>> > Gulf Centre for Human Rights
> >>>> >>>>> > Twitter: @Elsa_Saade
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> --
> >>>> >>>> --
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> Elsa Saade
> >>>> >>>> Consultant
> >>>> >>>> Gulf Centre for Human Rights
> >>>> >>>> Twitter: @Elsa_Saade
> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> >>>> NCUC-EC mailing list
> >>>> >>>> NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
> >>>> >>>> https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> --
> >>>> >>> Bruna Martins dos Santos
> >>>> >>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
> >>>> >>> @boomartins
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> _______________________________________________
> >>>> >> NCUC-EC mailing list
> >>>> >> NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
> >>>> >> https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec
> >>>> >>
> >>>> > _______________________________________________
> >>>> NCUC-EC mailing list
> >>>> NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
> >>>> https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec
> >>
> _______________________________________________
> NCUC-EC mailing list
> NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
> https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec
>
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Elsa Saade
Consultant
Gulf Centre for Human Rights
Twitter: @Elsa_Saade
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