[NCUC-EC] CROPP funding

Mon Oct 27 09:23:01 CET 2014

Hi Rafik

> On Oct 26, 2014, at 11:13 AM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Bill,
> 
> sorry for the confusion, the deadline of 15th November is for rightcons call for proposals.

Thanks for clarifying, I didn’t think there was a fixed deadline for CROPP…

> last edition, ICANN staff organized a session https://www.icann.org/news/blog/engaging-with-global-civil-society-and-business-at-rightscon-silicon-valley <https://www.icann.org/news/blog/engaging-with-global-civil-society-and-business-at-rightscon-silicon-valley>
A great example of community engagement.  We are not worthy, I guess.

> so I thought that would make to organize something in event where they are many activists and organization that we would to outreach.
> for CROPP I think can be done anytime and we need anyway to liaise with the regional VP, who would be Kuek for APAC and I know him well
> other options would be AP IGF but the date and host country not decided yet (likely Macao)

I can’t speak for anyone else but I certainly think it’d make sense for you to be there, someone needs to point out that oh by the way there actually are CS people involved in ICANN already and here’s how you can connect with them etc.

It would be good to hear from the rest of the EC if they agree.  If so you could go ahead and fill out the CROPP form.

Best

Bill

> 
> 
> 
> 2014-10-25 18:12 GMT+09:00 William Drake <wjdrake at gmail.com <mailto:wjdrake at gmail.com>>:
> Hi
> 
> While I always appreciate Ray’s support (as chair of the Structural Improvements Committee, he was the lead in refusing to let us have an integrated SG and forcing this whole dysfunctional architecture of ‘competing' constituencies on us, in large part to reduce hamper NCUC and limit its influence), and I know he’s an ASO guy, it’s not entirely obvious to me why we would preference attending RIR meetings over other meetings.  The purpose of the CROPP program is not to train us in the ways of IP address management.   It is to do outreach to potential new members who might be drawn into the GNSOsphere.  Personally, I think we are more likely to find new members at the sorts of meetings we’ve discussed already than among numbers folks.  That said, if someone wants to attend an RIR meeting and there’s no better option for slot usage in the given region, sure.
> 
> To recap: to date, a) I’ve said I want to apply for support to attend EuroDIG, b) Stefi has said the same*, and c) Rafik would like to apply to do Rightscon.  So that’s three very viable options for outreach (we need to redistribute the brochures a bit, I have them all).  Two other slots have no expressions of interest yet.  Again, bear in mind that the travel must be in region, and Rob has clarified that the five slots can be allocated to taste, not just one per region (e.g. Stefi and I can both request support for within Europe).
> 
> Rafik has reminded us of the deadline, 15 November.  Rafik can you please provide a pointer to that info, I can’t find it on the CROPP Confluence page and don’t recall an email to that effect?
> 
> The forms for NCUC to fill out are at https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=41900652 <https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=41900652>.  When the program was established we were told to identify contact points who’d be our coordinators; Pranesh and I volunteered, but it’s not really obvious what our specific roles would be in this context.  I’d think that we could simply identify 5 trips we agree people should apply for and then each person fills out the forms themselves.
> 
> As for this cycle we have two expressions of interest for Europe and one for Asia, can we identify two other meetings before end June (preferably in other regions) people might want to apply for?  We could certainly use outreach to potential members from everywhere, including NA, where there’s lots of Internet-oriented groups that have not yet chosen to allocate bandwidth to ICANN…
> 
> Finally, do recall that I’ve announced the CROPP thing several times on the members list and received no expressions of interest from regular members.  We could try again, but first it’d be good to know if anyone here (who is presumably more engaged and outreach-oriented than normal) has anything they’d like to have considered.
> 
> Best
> 
> Bill
> 
> *PS: Stefi, we might want to propose a topic for EuroDIG that would make this a particularly high-yield opportunity, like European CS engagement in GNSO/ICANN (could partner with moribund Euralo, might make it more palatable to Wolf and Sandra).  I’d bet we could at least get a flash session.
> 
>> On Oct 25, 2014, at 12:42 AM, Milan, Stefania <Stefania.Milan at EUI.eu <mailto:Stefania.Milan at EUI.eu>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Robin, Rafik
>> I am happy to do some work on this.
>> I might also be interested in being considered for CROPP, but I am perfectly fine with more tech-minded people having it.
>> Stefania
>> 
>> 
>> Da: ncuc-ec-bounces at lists.ncuc.org <mailto:ncuc-ec-bounces at lists.ncuc.org> <ncuc-ec-bounces at lists.ncuc.org <mailto:ncuc-ec-bounces at lists.ncuc.org>> per conto di Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org <mailto:robin at ipjustice.org>>
>> Inviato: giovedì 23 ottobre 2014 21.47
>> A: Rafik Dammak
>> Cc: Exec. Comm
>> Oggetto: Re: [NCUC-EC] CROPP funding
>>  
>> Ray Plazak told me in LA that he thinks we should CROPP funding for our members to attend the RIR meetings and participate in the policy discussions happening there.  Apparently there are about 11 of them a year in the different regions and our more "techy" minded members in those regions could participate there.  We should explore this possibility in the coming months.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Robin
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 22, 2014, at 5:03 PM, Rafik Dammak wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi there,
>>> 
>>> the deadline for submitting proposal is 15th november.
>>> 
>>> Rafik 
>>> 
>>> 2014-10-16 5:41 GMT+09:00 William Drake <wjdrake at gmail.com <mailto:wjdrake at gmail.com>>:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>> 
>>>> From: William Drake <wjdrake at gmail.com <mailto:wjdrake at gmail.com>>
>>>> Subject: CROPP funding
>>>> Date: October 11, 2014 at 3:40:27 PM PDT
>>>> To: "Exec. Comm" <ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org <mailto:ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org>>
>>>> 
>>>> Hi
>>>> 
>>>> Rafik is sending a head’s up that he’d like to be considered for CROPP, we can deal with this after LA.
>>>> 
>>>> Bill
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>> 
>>>>> From: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>
>>>>> Subject: Re: RightsCon Southeast Asia - Submit Your Proposals and Buy Your Tickets Now!
>>>>> Date: October 11, 2014 at 3:05:32 PM PDT
>>>>> To: William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch <mailto:william.drake at uzh.ch>>
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Bill,
>>>>> 
>>>>> strangely, I am still receiving notifications that my message is rejected.
>>>>> if you can forward it to the list and sure we can discuss later after LA meeting
>>>>> 
>>>>> Rafik
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2014-10-11 0:38 GMT+09:00 William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch <mailto:william.drake at uzh.ch>>:
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 10, 2014, at 5:46 AM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> My email was rejected,
>>>>>> 
>>>>> Weird, you are subscribed and have written before.  Ask Maryam to check I guess.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’m fine with you doing Rightscon, but are you saying you want to start the process already?  It’s a half year from now.  Can we deal after the LA meeting?  Send I guess a formal message saying this is what and why and after the EC says yes we will have to figure out how one applies.  I suspect Pranesh is not going to make good on this commitment either so it will fall to me to figure it out.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> BD
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Rafik 
>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>> From: "Rafik Dammak" <rafik.dammak at gmail.com <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>
>>>>>> Date: Oct 9, 2014 8:57 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Fwd: RightsCon Southeast Asia - Submit Your Proposals and Buy Your Tickets Now!
>>>>>> To: "ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org <mailto:ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org>" <ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org <mailto:ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org>>
>>>>>> Cc: 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Bill,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> here the conference I was talking about and could be an opportunity to use CROPP program. ICANN staff Chris mondini was there in the last edition and ICANN was a topic in a session.
>>>>>> there is possibility to submit proposal for a session, I think Carlos and Pranesh have been involved in rightcons and can give advices. Also Anriette, Joana and other have participated there.
>>>>>> a session about civil society , ICANN and concerns there would make sense. talking about privacy risks with whois there would find its audience.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>> From: Brett Solomon, Access <brett at accessnow.org <mailto:brett at accessnow.org>>
>>>>>> Date: 2014-10-08 22:14 GMT+09:00
>>>>>> Subject: RightsCon Southeast Asia - Submit Your Proposals and Buy Your Tickets Now!
>>>>>> To: rafik.dammak at gmail.com <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dear Friends,
>>>>>>  
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>>>>>>  
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