[NCUC-DISCUSS] [Request for Comment] NCUC meeting with GAC

Kris Seeburn seeburn.k at gmail.com
Sun Oct 22 17:08:48 CEST 2017


I also agree it is the way forward. We cannot take setbacks. We need to handle it as one. And i really would like GAC’s reaction and what they will be doing going forward.

> On Oct 22, 2017, at 17:47, Nick Shorey <lists at nickshorey.com> wrote:
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> All,
> 
> I agree with Stephanie's comment and endorse Ayden's proposal (and the way he's framed it as a global issue) for the GAC session.
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> Kind regards,
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> Nick
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> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 1:45 AM, Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca <mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>> wrote:
> In my view, all government reps to the GAC need to consult their Justice Departments, and not just the criminal law or cybercrime divisions.  There are constitutional, due process, and data protection issues which are raised by the data handling practices at ICANN.  The DPAs need to remain independent.
> 
> Stephanie Perrin
> 
> On 2017-10-18 19:08, Ayden Férdeline wrote:
>> I think it would be worth asking how and with whom GAC members consult on matters to do with privacy and data protection. Maybe we could offer them some pointers on who we think they should be speaking with, and when, and make it clear that they need to go out and seek the advice of Data Protection Authorities (DPA). Law enforcement might be proactive, coming to them — however the onus is on the GAC members to get their national DPA involved at times.
>> 
>> It depends who is at the table in our meeting with them, but if the participants are global, I'd suggest we avoid framing this as a European battle, because the principles that GDPR encompasses are the same ones which can be found in the OECD Privacy Framework and the CoE's Convention 108, among other non-binding and binding documents.
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>> Best wishes, Ayden
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>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>> Subject: Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] [Request for Comment] NCUC meeting with GAC
>>> Local Time: 16 October 2017 12:28 AM
>>> UTC Time: 15 October 2017 23:28
>>> From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>>> To: farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> <mailto:farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
>>> NCUC-discuss <ncuc-discuss at lists.ncuc.org> <mailto:ncuc-discuss at lists.ncuc.org>
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>>> Hi Farzaneh,
>>> 
>>> Thanks for sharing this,
>>> looks fine with me. for privacy, I understand that is about GDPR? we discussed that during the last NCSG call and there was a proposal to approach GAC on the topic.
>>> what is the format of the joint meetings with GAC? the only experience we have is the GAC-GNSO and GAC-Board meetings, which is not what we are looking for probably.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Rafik
>>> 
>>> 2017-10-16 8:22 GMT+09:00 farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com <mailto:farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>>:
>>> As you know we will meet with GAC for half an hour in Abu Dhabi.
>>> 
>>> The idea of meeting with them is to tell them who we are, what we do. 
>>> 
>>> Also we want to discuss: jurisdiction and privacy and if time allows Geo names. 
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>>> Any comments on the topics or our approach to the meeting?
>>> 
>>> Best
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>>> 
>>> Farzaneh
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