<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I also agree it is the way forward. We cannot take setbacks. We need to handle it as one. And i really would like GAC’s reaction and what they will be doing going forward.<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Oct 22, 2017, at 17:47, Nick Shorey <<a href="mailto:lists@nickshorey.com" class="">lists@nickshorey.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">All,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I agree with Stephanie's comment and endorse Ayden's proposal (and the way he's framed it as a global issue) for the GAC session.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Kind regards,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Nick</div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all" class=""><div class=""><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><b class="">Nick Shorey</b><div class="">Phone: +44 (0) 7552 455 988</div><div class="">Email: <a href="mailto:lists@nickshorey.com" target="_blank" class="">lists@nickshorey.com</a></div><div class="">Skype: nick.shorey</div><div class="">Twitter: @nickshorey</div><div class="">LinkedIn: <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/nicklinkedin" target="_blank" class="">www.linkedin.com/in/nicklinkedin</a></div><div class="">Web: <a href="http://www.nickshorey.com/" target="_blank" class="">www.nickshorey.com</a></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 1:45 AM, Stephanie Perrin <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca" target="_blank" class="">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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government reps to the GAC need to consult their Justice
Departments, and not just the criminal law or cybercrime
divisions. There are constitutional, due process, and data
protection issues which are raised by the data handling
practices at ICANN. The DPAs need to remain independent.</font></font></p><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888" class=""><p class=""><font size="+1" class=""><font face="Lucida Grande" class="">Stephanie Perrin</font></font><br class="">
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<div class="">I think it would be worth asking how and with whom GAC
members consult on matters to do with privacy and data
protection. Maybe we could offer them some pointers on who we
think they should be speaking with, and when, and make it clear
that they need to go out and seek the advice of Data Protection
Authorities (DPA). Law enforcement might be proactive, coming to
them — however the onus is on the GAC members to get their
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<div class="">It depends who is at the table in our meeting with them, but
if the participants are global, I'd suggest we avoid framing
this as a European battle, because the principles that GDPR
encompasses are the same ones which can be found in the OECD
Privacy Framework and the CoE's Convention 108, among other
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<div class="gmail_extra">looks fine with me. for privacy, I
understand that is about GDPR? we discussed that during the
last NCSG call and there was a proposal to approach GAC on
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<div class="gmail_extra">what is the format of the joint
meetings with GAC? the only experience we have is the
GAC-GNSO and GAC-Board meetings, which is not what we are
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<div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif" class="">As you
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<div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif" class="">The idea
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<div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif" class="">Also we
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