[NCUC-DISCUSS] [Meeting Report] PIR Advisory Council

[Joly MacFie]

Martin Pablo Silva Valent
​ wrote:​


> ​​
> 2) As case study: NPOC tried to register a .NGO a while back, and it was
> denied because NPOC didn’t had separate personality from ICANN, it was an
> non-commercial legal entity itself. Regardless of the special case, I think
> is important to understand the role .ngo has in the DNS ecosystem,
> thousands of NGO or non-commercial organization are still going to .org
> because of this restriction. PIR position on this asumes that
> non-commercial civil society organization all have to look like the ideal
> US/europe NGO with an approved state non commercial charter. Personally I
> think this inflexible approach leaves a worldwide civil society community
> of organization out in the open on the DNS, instead of granting ll the
> benefits .ngo could give.


​I guess this is a matter of opinion. To my way of thinking it is valuable
to have this distinction.

​j



On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 7:50 PM, Martin Pablo Silva Valent <
mpsilvavalent at gmail.com> wrote:

> Farzi,
> I have two comments for next round to chew on.
> 1) I heard PIR almost implemented a alternative, additional, mechanism to
> protect rights (IP right) beyond the classic UDPR, we should be involved in
> that, if true, to stop any over reaching IP right mechanism.
> 2) As case study: NPOC tried to register a .NGO a while back, and it was
> denied because NPOC didn’t had separate personality from ICANN, it was an
> non-commercial legal entity itself. Regardless of the special case, I think
> is important to understand the role .ngo has in the DNS ecosystem,
> thousands of NGO or non-commercial organization are still going to .org
> because of this restriction. PIR position on this asumes that
> non-commercial civil society organization all have to look like the ideal
> US/europe NGO with an approved state non commercial charter. Personally I
> think this inflexible approach leaves a worldwide civil society community
> of organization out in the open on the DNS, instead of granting ll the
> benefits .ngo could give.
>
> Food for thoughts!
>
> If you want me to going the work related to this AC let me know, I would
> love to.
>
> Cheers all!
> Martín Silva
>
> On Oct 11, 2017, at 7:16 PM, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Dear All,
>
> Here is my brief note of PIR meeting. Please note that some aspects of
> the meeting were confidential so I cannot report on them. PIR is the
> registry for .org and .NGO and NCUC get to appoint an AC member to
> represent NCUC.
>
> Here is the brief:
>
> - The advisory council role was discussed. It was agreed that the AC has
> to have an active role and provide recommendations on various issues
> related  to PIR
>
> - I emphasized on stronger and enhanced communication between Staff, Board
> and Advisory Council.
>
> - We raised the issue of GDPR and I relayed Ayden's questions. PIR will
> come up with a plan to comply with GDPR. PIR is also active in the RDS
> group. Staff advised us that they are open to suggestions and
> recommendations with this regard.
>
> - PIR discussed its abuse and take down policy. It emphasized that its
> abuse and take down policy is predominantly technical unless there are
> obvious child abuse websites which will be taken down.
>
> - SCADR is shelved But they want to have a dialogue about it and they want
> to know how to re-open the issue in the future if they need to. My
> impression is that the issue is closed for the moment and they are asking
> the AC to advise them on how to seek public consultation on any policy
> issue.
>
> - Since AC was advised about SCADR very late, we raised the point that
> this should not have happened and in the future, there should be more
> briefing of AC. Fortunately, there is now a Board liaison to AC and I also
> asked if we could be observers of the Board meetings.
>
>
> - The meeting also focused on .NGO and how to encourage more domain
> registration in .NGO. Here is the PIR toolkit  for NGOs
> http://toolkit.ngo/
>
>
> Best
> Farzaneh
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