<div dir="ltr">Martin Pablo Silva Valent<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small;display:inline"> wrote:</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small;display:inline"></div>2) As case study: NPOC tried to register a .NGO a while back, and it was denied because NPOC didn’t had separate personality from ICANN, it was an non-commercial legal entity itself. Regardless of the special case, I think is important to understand the role .ngo has in the DNS ecosystem, thousands of NGO or non-commercial organization are still going to .org because of this restriction. PIR position on this asumes that non-commercial civil society organization all have to look like the ideal US/europe NGO with an approved state non commercial charter. Personally I think this inflexible approach leaves a worldwide civil society community of organization out in the open on the DNS, instead of granting ll the benefits .ngo could give.</blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I guess this is a matter of opinion. To my way of thinking it is valuable to have this distinction.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">j</div><br></div><div> </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 7:50 PM, Martin Pablo Silva Valent <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mpsilvavalent@gmail.com" target="_blank">mpsilvavalent@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div>Farzi,</div><div><span class="m_3587340738695704285Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>I have two comments for next round to chew on.</div><div><span class="m_3587340738695704285Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>1) I heard PIR almost implemented a alternative, additional, mechanism to protect rights (IP right) beyond the classic UDPR, we should be involved in that, if true, to stop any over reaching IP right mechanism.</div><div><span class="m_3587340738695704285Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>2) As case study: NPOC tried to register a .NGO a while back, and it was denied because NPOC didn’t had separate personality from ICANN, it was an non-commercial legal entity itself. Regardless of the special case, I think is important to understand the role .ngo has in the DNS ecosystem, thousands of NGO or non-commercial organization are still going to .org because of this restriction. PIR position on this asumes that non-commercial civil society organization all have to look like the ideal US/europe NGO with an approved state non commercial charter. Personally I think this inflexible approach leaves a worldwide civil society community of organization out in the open on the DNS, instead of granting ll the benefits .ngo could give. </div><div><br></div><div><span class="m_3587340738695704285Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>Food for thoughts!</div><div><br></div><div>If you want me to going the work related to this AC let me know, I would love to.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers all!</div><div>Martín Silva</div><div><span class="m_3587340738695704285Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span></div><br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="h5"><div>On Oct 11, 2017, at 7:16 PM, farzaneh badii <<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com" target="_blank">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="m_3587340738695704285Apple-interchange-newline"></div></div><div><div><div class="h5"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:12.8px">Dear All,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:12.8px">Here is my brief note of <span class="m_3587340738695704285gmail-il">PIR</span> meeting. Please note that some aspects of the meeting were confidential so I cannot report on them. PIR is the registry for .org and .NGO and NCUC get to appoint an AC member to represent NCUC. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:12.8px">Here is the brief: </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:12.8px">- The advisory council role was discussed. It was agreed that the AC has to have an active role and provide recommendations on various issues related to <span class="m_3587340738695704285gmail-il">PIR</span> </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:12.8px">- I emphasized on stronger and enhanced communication between Staff, Board and Advisory Council.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:12.8px">- We raised the issue of GDPR and I relayed Ayden's questions. <span class="m_3587340738695704285gmail-il">PIR</span> will come up with a plan to comply with GDPR. <span class="m_3587340738695704285gmail-il">PIR</span> is also active in the RDS group. Staff advised us that they are open to suggestions and recommendations with this regard.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:12.8px">- <span class="m_3587340738695704285gmail-il">PIR</span> discussed its abuse and take down policy. It emphasized that its abuse and take down policy is predominantly technical unless there are obvious child abuse websites which will be taken down. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:12.8px">- SCADR is shelved But they want to have a dialogue about it and they want to know how to re-open the issue in the future if they need to. My impression is that the issue is closed for the moment and they are asking the AC to advise them on how to seek public consultation on any policy issue.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:12.8px">- Since AC was advised about SCADR very late, we raised the point that this should not have happened and in the future, there should be more briefing of AC. Fortunately, there is now a Board liaison to AC and I also asked if we could be observers of the Board meetings. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:12.8px">- The meeting also focused on .NGO and how to encourage more domain registration in .NGO. Here is the <span class="m_3587340738695704285gmail-il">PIR</span> toolkit for NGOs <a href="http://toolkit.ngo/" target="_blank">http://toolkit.ngo/</a></div><div class="m_3587340738695704285gmail-yj6qo m_3587340738695704285gmail-ajU" style="margin:2px 0px 0px;font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"><div id="m_3587340738695704285gmail-:1bj" class="m_3587340738695704285gmail-ajR"><img class="m_3587340738695704285gmail-ajT" src="https://ssl.gstatic.com/ui/v1/icons/mail/images/cleardot.gif"></div><div id="m_3587340738695704285gmail-:1bj" class="m_3587340738695704285gmail-ajR"><br></div><div id="m_3587340738695704285gmail-:1bj" class="m_3587340738695704285gmail-ajR"><br></div><div id="m_3587340738695704285gmail-:1bj" class="m_3587340738695704285gmail-ajR">Best </div></div></div><div><div class="m_3587340738695704285gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Farzaneh </font></div></div></div></div>
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