[NCUC-DISCUSS] A problem in registration form for ICANN60 Abu Dhabi

[Farell Folly]

All of this raises the issue of tolerance from both ICANN side (and its
community) and the local host.



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Le 17 juil. 2017 09:11, "Ayden Férdeline" <icann at ferdeline.com> a écrit :

> I'm happy to raise my hand and to say I think ICANN should be collecting
> this data. ICANN should actively monitor diversity, not react passively to
> reports of harassment or discrimination (provided they react), and this
> data helps identify such gaps and define areas for improvement. Of course,
> the safety and security of the information that is gathered is essential,
> and crucial to building the trust and confidence of those being monitored.
> Just because we are collecting one's gender (and might I add, I think we
> should be collecting more than just that -- I would like to see sexual
> orientation collected too) does not mean it must be disclosed to the local
> host. This information should be disclosed on a 'need to know' basis only,
> and I'd think there would be pretty few instances where anyone would need
> to know these characteristics along with, say, the respondent's name.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Ayden Férdeline
> linkedin.com/in/ferdeline <http://www.linkedin.com/in/ferdeline>
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] A problem in registration form for ICANN60 Abu
> Dhabi
> Local Time: July 17, 2017 10:18 AM
> UTC Time: July 17, 2017 8:18 AM
> From: james at cyberinvasion.net
> To: Jesse Järvi <jesse.jarvi at gmail.com>, Cedric Laurant <
> cedric at laurant.org>
> ncuc-discuss at lists.ncuc.org <ncuc-discuss at lists.ncuc.org>
>
>
> I think a lot of people would agree with that, but there are a number of
> people who have been pushing for ICANN to collect an insane amount of
> personal infomratino on the grounds of diversity statistics so we might
> find pushback on that.
>
>
>
> *From:* Ncuc-discuss [mailto:ncuc-discuss-bounces at lists.ncuc.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Jesse Järvi
> *Sent:* 17 July 2017 07:30
> *To:* Cedric Laurant <cedric at laurant.org>
> *Cc:* ncuc-discuss at lists.ncuc.org
> *Subject:* Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] A problem in registration form for ICANN60
> Abu Dhabi
>
>
>
> I personally suggest removing the gender field completely. It’s irrelevant
> information.
>
>
>
> Jesse
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>
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>
>
> *Jesse Mikael Järvi*
>
> *IT Consultant*
>
> Email: me at jessejarvi.net
>
> Phone: *+358 400 401020*
>
> LinkedIn: Jesse Mikael Järvi <https://linkedin.com/in/jessejarvi>
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>
>
> On Jul 17, 2017, at 8:34 AM, Cedric Laurant <cedric at laurant.org> wrote:
>
> It is indeed irrelevant for the purpose of a public event registration.
> What might be relevant is how people want to be addressed in
> correspondence or in panels. It would therefore be sufficient to add a
> field with "Mr"/"Mrs"/"Dr", etc.
> Cédric
>
> On 7/17/17 12:18 AM, Tapani Tarvainen wrote:
>
> We might want to lobby to change the "Other" selection to
>
> "don't want to say" or "irrelevant" something to that effect
>
> and then all select that.
>
>
>
> Even better would be to get rid of the question altogether
>
> on grounds that it is irrelevant.
>
>
>
> Tapani
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>
> On Jul 16 21:12, Renata Aquino Ribeiro (raquino at gmail.com) wrote:
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>
> Hello
>
>
>
> I have just read the raw transcript of the last WS2-Diversity meeting
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> Meeting page
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> https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=66089058
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>
> Raw transcript
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>
> https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/66089058/
> DIVERSITY%20SUBGROUP%20MEETING%20_07132017-FINAL-en.pdf?version=1&
> modificationDate=1500220959000&api=v2
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>
>
> The raw transcript means it is the 1st form of the transcript, no
> corrections
>
>
>
> But what I read made me caught my attention enough to share this on the
> lists
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> Especially giving the discussion about reviewing where meetings happen
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>
>
> Apparently there was a "concern" with registration to ICANN60 because
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> "a form" presented the follow question and options of response
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>
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> Gender:  Male/Female/Other
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>
>
> The "other" option raised the "concern" and ombudsman brought up that
>
> this was the theme of a conversation w/ local organization
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>
>
> So what would happen if ICANN had, let's say, a number of
>
> registrations of "Other" ?
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>
>
> Would this be theme for other conversations between ombudsman and
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> local organizers?
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>
>
> Are there any data collected by registration form that would cause
>
> "concern" to local organizers?
>
>
>
> And sorry about the extensive use of quote marks. The words are a bit
>
> surprising and I tried to soften the blow.
>
>
>
> Renata
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