[NCUC-DISCUSS] The use of +1 's ... and why some people might be reluctant to post

[Mamadou LO]

Thanks Rafik for this response..
Mamadou



Envoyé depuis mon smartphone Samsung Galaxy.
-------- Message d'origine --------
De : Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
Date : 03/08/2017 01:57 (GMT+00:00)
À : Mamadou LO <alfamamadou at hotmail.com>
Cc : dorothy g <dgdorothydg at gmail.com>, ncuc-discuss at lists.ncuc.org
Objet : Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] The use of +1 's ... and why some people might be reluctant to post

Hi Mamadou,

Thanks for the message,
it is hard to know in which reason the +1 are based and we cannot know people intentions. We can see it as one among others inputs. That is why I also encouraged that members, when voting, look at more clear input like a statement of interest, responses from candidates to make their decisions. Based on what candidates state and committed, members can make them accountable when next time they run for re-election.

Best,

Rafik

2017-08-03 7:50 GMT+09:00 Mamadou LO <alfamamadou at hotmail.com<mailto:alfamamadou at hotmail.com>>:
Hi all!!
My real concern with those +1 support is what does they really mean for the sender. Are they based on friendship, relationship, gender support, régional support or on competencies recognition, background work..I think if it does mean something for the benefit of our community, it has to be based first on people willingness to actively participate on ICANN policies, operations and procedures discussion. Our community is growing and I think we have the challenge to work on internal communication to add relevance on our practices and supports.

Mamadou


Envoyé depuis mon smartphone Samsung Galaxy.


-------- Message d'origine --------
De : Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com<mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>
Date : 31/07/2017 23:38 (GMT+00:00)
À : dorothy g <dgdorothydg at gmail.com<mailto:dgdorothydg at gmail.com>>
Cc : ncuc-discuss at lists.ncuc.org<mailto:ncuc-discuss at lists.ncuc.org>
Objet : Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] The use of +1 's ... and why some people might be reluctant to post

hi,

I understand that people want to express support someone by +1 for several personal reasons but it doesn't mean necessarily they are voting or endorsing the candidate explicitly. It is a practice that we had for many years but it doesn't replace a formal process like election or selection process like for nomcom, the charters are clear about those processes.

Whatever for election or appointment, I strongly urge everyone to review the statement of interest made by the candidates, to ask them questions in the mailing list or the webinars so the candidate can indicate their thoughts and commitments. With that members can make an opinion about candidates without any influence or interference.
That gives an idea about the expectations of the candidates from their membership but also indicate how much they know about the work to be done in the positions to be elected/appointed for.  That is also one of the effective ways to participate for members by carefully selecting and selecting representatives.

Best,

Rafik

2017-08-01 1:28 GMT+09:00 dorothy g <dgdorothydg at gmail.com<mailto:dgdorothydg at gmail.com>>:
We need to distinguish between the use of plus 1 for agreement on a discussion point and the use of plus 1 when people believe it will influence a choice between candidates.
On the former I would agree with Ginger on the latter if my vote counts give me a voting platform otherwise .....

best

On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 2:57 PM, Ginger Paque <virginiap at diplomacy.edu<mailto:virginiap at diplomacy.edu>> wrote:
I just sent this message offlist to Sean, in reply to his comments:

Sean said:
Guys if am not mistaking, the email from the NCUC Chair suggests that a decision has been made by the EC on this matter.  ...  May I suggest the +1s be put to rest.

Ginger replied OFFLIST:
...  I don't want to get involved in a discussion on the list, but I think the arguments in favor of +1, and the continued use of +1 tell us that it is a very important and useful tool. What's your objection? I'd rather see you contradicting the chair than discouraging the use of +1, especially for those who don't write well in English :)

Ginger (new)
I've decided now to use this as a clear example of another reason people lurk instead of engaging, and might prefer to use +1s. I also note that it is possible that Sean's comment was meant to be read between the lines.

In the last year or so on several IG-related lists, posting a comment often elicits (not referring to the chair here in any way, shape, or form, just using the topic as an example) an antagonistic and/or aggressive response instead of discussion. I mention it here because it is relevant to the +1 issue. My English is decent, and I'm pretty outspoken myself, but I have to admit it has seriously affected my engagement.

Happy (hopefully) IG discussions.
Cheers, Ginger




Virginia Paque
DiploFoundation


[https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif]<https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon>    Virus-free. www.avast.com<https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link>

_______________________________________________
Ncuc-discuss mailing list
Ncuc-discuss at lists.ncuc.org<mailto:Ncuc-discuss at lists.ncuc.org>
http://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-discuss



_______________________________________________
Ncuc-discuss mailing list
Ncuc-discuss at lists.ncuc.org<mailto:Ncuc-discuss at lists.ncuc.org>
http://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-discuss



-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.ncuc.org/pipermail/ncuc-discuss/attachments/20170803/7fc7cb49/attachment.html>