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<div>Thanks Rafik for this response..</div>
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<div>De : Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak@gmail.com> </div>
<div>Date : 03/08/2017 01:57 (GMT+00:00) </div>
<div>À : Mamadou LO <alfamamadou@hotmail.com> </div>
<div>Cc : dorothy g <dgdorothydg@gmail.com>, ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org </div>
<div>Objet : Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] The use of +1 's ... and why some people might be reluctant to post
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<div class="gmail_extra">Thanks for the message,</div>
<div class="gmail_extra">it is hard to know in which reason the +1 are based and we cannot know people intentions. We can see it as one among others inputs. That is why I also encouraged that members, when voting, look at more clear input like a statement of
interest, responses from candidates to make their decisions. Based on what candidates state and committed, members can make them accountable when next time they run for re-election.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2017-08-03 7:50 GMT+09:00 Mamadou LO <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:alfamamadou@hotmail.com" target="_blank">alfamamadou@hotmail.com</a>></span>:<br>
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<div>Hi all!!</div>
<div>My real concern with those +1 support is what does they really mean for the sender. Are they based on friendship, relationship, gender support, régional support or on competencies recognition, background work..I think if it does mean something for the
benefit of our community, it has to be based first on people willingness to actively participate on ICANN policies, operations and procedures discussion. Our community is growing and I think we have the challenge to work on internal communication to add relevance
on our practices and supports.</div>
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<div>De : Rafik Dammak <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" target="_blank">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>>
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<div>Date : 31/07/2017 23:38 (GMT+00:00) </div>
<div>À : dorothy g <<a href="mailto:dgdorothydg@gmail.com" target="_blank">dgdorothydg@gmail.com</a>>
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<div>Cc : <a href="mailto:ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org" target="_blank">ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org</a>
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<div>Objet : Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] The use of +1 's ... and why some people might be reluctant to post
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<div class="gmail_extra">I understand that people want to express support someone by +1 for several personal reasons but it doesn't mean necessarily they are voting or endorsing the candidate explicitly. It is a practice that we had for many years but it doesn't
replace a formal process like election or selection process like for nomcom, the charters are clear about those processes. </div>
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<div class="gmail_extra">Whatever for election or appointment, I strongly urge everyone to review the statement of interest made by the candidates, to ask them questions in the mailing list or the webinars so the candidate can indicate their thoughts and commitments.
With that members can make an opinion about candidates without any influence or interference. </div>
<div class="gmail_extra">That gives an idea about the expectations of the candidates from their membership but also indicate how much they know about the work to be done in the positions to be elected/appointed for. That is also one of the effective ways to
participate for members by carefully selecting and selecting representatives. </div>
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<div class="gmail_extra">Best,</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2017-08-01 1:28 GMT+09:00 dorothy g <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dgdorothydg@gmail.com" target="_blank">dgdorothydg@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">We need to distinguish between the use of plus 1 for agreement on a discussion point and the use of plus 1 when people believe it will influence a choice between candidates.
<div>On the former I would agree with Ginger on the latter if my vote counts give me a voting platform otherwise .....</div>
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<div class="m_4455592454096666218gmail-h5">On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 2:57 PM, Ginger Paque
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<div dir="ltr">I just sent this message offlist to Sean, in reply to his comments:
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<div>Guys if am not mistaking, the email from the NCUC Chair suggests that a decision has been made by the EC on this matter. ... <span style="font-size:12.8px">May I suggest the +1s be put to rest.</span>
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<div><span style="font-size:12.8px"><b>Ginger replied OFFLIST:</b></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:12.8px">... I don't want to get involved in a discussion on the list, but I think the arguments in favor of +1, and the continued use of +1 tell us that it is a very important and useful tool. What's your objection? I'd rather see
you contradicting the chair than discouraging the use of +1, especially for those who don't write well in English :)</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size:12.8px">I've decided now to use this as a clear example of another reason people lurk instead of engaging, and might prefer to use +1s. I also note that it is possible that Sean's comment was meant to be read between the lines.</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size:12.8px">In the last year or so on several IG-related lists, posting a comment often elicits (not referring to the chair here in any way, shape, or form, just using the topic as an example) an antagonistic and/or aggressive response instead
of discussion. I mention it here because it is relevant to the +1 issue. My English is decent, and I'm pretty outspoken myself, but I have to admit it has seriously affected my engagement. </span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size:12.8px">Happy (hopefully) IG discussions.</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:12.8px">Cheers, Ginger</span></div>
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