[NCUC-DISCUSS] NCUC EC Elections - Voting Starts tomorrow 23 Nov 2015

William Drake wjdrake at gmail.com
Tue Nov 24 09:10:35 CET 2015


Avri

> On Nov 23, 2015, at 8:15 PM, Avri Doria <avri at ACM.ORG> wrote:
> 
> hi,
> 
> the fact that we did it wrong before is not reason to do it wrong now
> now that we know.
> 
> i see no reason why the NCUC needs to use the same proportionalities as
> the NCSG.  

This was not your position previously, which was part of why we were doing it.

Bill

>  The NCUC does put more weight on individuals than on
> organizations, so it does make sense, at least until the NCUC charter is
> revised and renewed.
> 
> avri
> 
> 
> On 23-Nov-15 06:56, William Drake wrote:
>> Hi Ed
>> 
>>> On Nov 23, 2015, at 12:10 AM, Edward Morris <egmorris1 at toast.net
>>> <mailto:egmorris1 at toast.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> So rather than the 4-2-1 voting proportions used for NCSG  elections,
>>> NCUC elections are run using a 2-1-1 vote weighing system. In
>>> practical terms the NCUC Bylaws give more power to individual
>>> members, the NCSG Charter to large organisations. 
>>> 
>>> I do hope the tabulation software will be programmed to accurately
>>> reflect the NCUC Bylaws. We have several contested elections with
>>> some fine candidates and in fairness to them it would be good to use
>>> the vote weighing system contained in our Bylaws and not that of our SG.
>>> 
>> 
>> This puzzled me so I checked with Glen and Maryam as well as the 2013
>> and 2014 final vote tallies I have saved on my computer.  As far as we
>> can see, what we’ve done for some years now is follow the NCSG
>> Charter's vote weighting rather than the NCUC Bylaws' weighting, which
>> was defined prior the SG's formation. You were on the NCUC EC when we
>> did this in the 2013 election and I don’t recall it being an issue.
>> There’s obviously an argument for having harmonization with the later
>> and technically higher level model, no?  Why should we change
>> direction at this point?
>> 
>> Unfortunately, Tapani (king of the data base) is off line today, so
>> maybe we’ll hold off a day on sending out ballots until we can hear
>> from him.  I’m about to get off a bouncy train in Zurich where I teach
>> for four hours, and in any event have never touched the data base, so
>> I’d rather make sure that our understanding fits with his.
>> 
>> Best
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>> 
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