[NCUC-DISCUSS] NCUC EC Elections - Voting Starts tomorrow 23 Nov 2015

[Carlos Afonso]

So far no ballot from tally at icann.org.

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On 11/24/15 06:10, William Drake wrote:
> Avri
> 
>> On Nov 23, 2015, at 8:15 PM, Avri Doria <avri at ACM.ORG
>> <mailto:avri at acm.org>> wrote:
>>
>> hi,
>>
>> the fact that we did it wrong before is not reason to do it wrong now
>> now that we know.
>>
>> i see no reason why the NCUC needs to use the same proportionalities as
>> the NCSG.  
> 
> This was not your position previously, which was part of why we were
> doing it.
> 
> Bill
> 
>>  The NCUC does put more weight on individuals than on
>> organizations, so it does make sense, at least until the NCUC charter is
>> revised and renewed.
>>
>> avri
>>
>>
>> On 23-Nov-15 06:56, William Drake wrote:
>>> Hi Ed
>>>
>>>> On Nov 23, 2015, at 12:10 AM, Edward Morris <egmorris1 at toast.net
>>>> <mailto:egmorris1 at toast.net>
>>>> <mailto:egmorris1 at toast.net>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So rather than the 4-2-1 voting proportions used for NCSG  elections,
>>>> NCUC elections are run using a 2-1-1 vote weighing system. In
>>>> practical terms the NCUC Bylaws give more power to individual
>>>> members, the NCSG Charter to large organisations.
>>>>
>>>> I do hope the tabulation software will be programmed to accurately
>>>> reflect the NCUC Bylaws. We have several contested elections with
>>>> some fine candidates and in fairness to them it would be good to use
>>>> the vote weighing system contained in our Bylaws and not that of our SG.
>>>>
>>>
>>> This puzzled me so I checked with Glen and Maryam as well as the 2013
>>> and 2014 final vote tallies I have saved on my computer.  As far as we
>>> can see, what we’ve done for some years now is follow the NCSG
>>> Charter's vote weighting rather than the NCUC Bylaws' weighting, which
>>> was defined prior the SG's formation. You were on the NCUC EC when we
>>> did this in the 2013 election and I don’t recall it being an issue.
>>> There’s obviously an argument for having harmonization with the later
>>> and technically higher level model, no?  Why should we change
>>> direction at this point?
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, Tapani (king of the data base) is off line today, so
>>> maybe we’ll hold off a day on sending out ballots until we can hear
>>> from him.  I’m about to get off a bouncy train in Zurich where I teach
>>> for four hours, and in any event have never touched the data base, so
>>> I’d rather make sure that our understanding fits with his.
>>>
>>> Best
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
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