<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Avri<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Nov 23, 2015, at 8:15 PM, Avri Doria <<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org" class="">avri@ACM.ORG</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">hi,<br class=""><br class="">the fact that we did it wrong before is not reason to do it wrong now<br class="">now that we know.<br class=""><br class="">i see no reason why the NCUC needs to use the same proportionalities as<br class="">the NCSG. </div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>This was not your position previously, which was part of why we were doing it.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Bill</div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class=""> The NCUC does put more weight on individuals than on<br class="">organizations, so it does make sense, at least until the NCUC charter is<br class="">revised and renewed.<br class=""><br class="">avri<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">On 23-Nov-15 06:56, William Drake wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Hi Ed<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Nov 23, 2015, at 12:10 AM, Edward Morris <<a href="mailto:egmorris1@toast.net" class="">egmorris1@toast.net</a><br class=""><<a href="mailto:egmorris1@toast.net" class="">mailto:egmorris1@toast.net</a>>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">So rather than the 4-2-1 voting proportions used for NCSG elections,<br class="">NCUC elections are run using a 2-1-1 vote weighing system. In<br class="">practical terms the NCUC Bylaws give more power to individual<br class="">members, the NCSG Charter to large organisations. <br class=""><br class="">I do hope the tabulation software will be programmed to accurately<br class="">reflect the NCUC Bylaws. We have several contested elections with<br class="">some fine candidates and in fairness to them it would be good to use<br class="">the vote weighing system contained in our Bylaws and not that of our SG.<br class=""><br class=""></blockquote><br class="">This puzzled me so I checked with Glen and Maryam as well as the 2013<br class="">and 2014 final vote tallies I have saved on my computer. As far as we<br class="">can see, what we’ve done for some years now is follow the NCSG<br class="">Charter's vote weighting rather than the NCUC Bylaws' weighting, which<br class="">was defined prior the SG's formation. You were on the NCUC EC when we<br class="">did this in the 2013 election and I don’t recall it being an issue.<br class=""> There’s obviously an argument for having harmonization with the later<br class="">and technically higher level model, no? Why should we change<br class="">direction at this point?<br class=""><br class="">Unfortunately, Tapani (king of the data base) is off line today, so<br class="">maybe we’ll hold off a day on sending out ballots until we can hear<br class="">from him. I’m about to get off a bouncy train in Zurich where I teach<br class="">for four hours, and in any event have never touched the data base, so<br class="">I’d rather make sure that our understanding fits with his.<br class=""><br class="">Best<br class=""><br class="">Bill<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">Ncuc-discuss mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:Ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org" class="">Ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org</a><br class="">http://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-discuss<br class=""></blockquote><br class=""><br class="">---<br class="">This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.<br class=""><a href="https://www.avast.com/antivirus" class="">https://www.avast.com/antivirus</a><br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">Ncuc-discuss mailing list<br class="">Ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org<br class="">http://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-discuss<br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""><div apple-content-edited="true" class="">
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