[NCUC-DISCUSS] NCUC EC Elections - Voting Starts tomorrow 23 Nov 2015

Stephanie Perrin stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca
Mon Nov 23 20:37:12 CET 2015


I agree, but it is easy for me to say as I have no expertise to offer in 
modifying the tabulation software.
cheers Stephanie Perrin

On 2015-11-23 14:15, Avri Doria wrote:
> hi,
>
> the fact that we did it wrong before is not reason to do it wrong now
> now that we know.
>
> i see no reason why the NCUC needs to use the same proportionalities as
> the NCSG.   The NCUC does put more weight on individuals than on
> organizations, so it does make sense, at least until the NCUC charter is
> revised and renewed.
>
> avri
>
>
> On 23-Nov-15 06:56, William Drake wrote:
>> Hi Ed
>>
>>> On Nov 23, 2015, at 12:10 AM, Edward Morris <egmorris1 at toast.net
>>> <mailto:egmorris1 at toast.net>> wrote:
>>>
>>>   
>>> So rather than the 4-2-1 voting proportions used for NCSG  elections,
>>> NCUC elections are run using a 2-1-1 vote weighing system. In
>>> practical terms the NCUC Bylaws give more power to individual
>>> members, the NCSG Charter to large organisations.
>>>   
>>> I do hope the tabulation software will be programmed to accurately
>>> reflect the NCUC Bylaws. We have several contested elections with
>>> some fine candidates and in fairness to them it would be good to use
>>> the vote weighing system contained in our Bylaws and not that of our SG.
>>>   
>> This puzzled me so I checked with Glen and Maryam as well as the 2013
>> and 2014 final vote tallies I have saved on my computer.  As far as we
>> can see, what we’ve done for some years now is follow the NCSG
>> Charter's vote weighting rather than the NCUC Bylaws' weighting, which
>> was defined prior the SG's formation. You were on the NCUC EC when we
>> did this in the 2013 election and I don’t recall it being an issue.
>>   There’s obviously an argument for having harmonization with the later
>> and technically higher level model, no?  Why should we change
>> direction at this point?
>>
>> Unfortunately, Tapani (king of the data base) is off line today, so
>> maybe we’ll hold off a day on sending out ballots until we can hear
>> from him.  I’m about to get off a bouncy train in Zurich where I teach
>> for four hours, and in any event have never touched the data base, so
>> I’d rather make sure that our understanding fits with his.
>>
>> Best
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
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