[NCUC-DISCUSS] Durban Follow Up

Thu Jul 25 14:41:18 CEST 2013

This is is  great  news.

I was at the  Saturday event on DNS and Africa but  I didn't see anyone I
remember.  I am sure they were there.

G

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On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 8:09 AM, Avri Doria <avri at ella.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> A third of the students participated?!  That is really good.  I saw a
> bunch around during the week but did not know it was that many.
>
> From all the Schools on Ig I have taught, I would say this was the most
> energetic, multistakeholder and participatory one I have ever seen.
>
> Shows the wisdom, also, of pairing a school with an Ig event.
>
> avri
>
>
>
> On 24 Jul 2013, at 23:13, joy wrote:
>
> >
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> > Thanks for the post Wolfgang.
> > Deed you are right about the regional perspectives in the ICANN meeting
> > as a whole - this seems to be an on-going issue.
> > I'd only add that quite a few (about 12) of the African IG school
> > participants did participate in the ICANN meeting, some quite actively
> > despite it being their first meeting. For example, a Botswana
> > participant sat in on the GAC meetings and engaged with her country's
> > GAC representative, several of the Nigerians attended the NCUC day and
> > the discussion in the session with Anriette Esterhuysen, the Tanzanian
> > participants also attended - those were just some of the ones I saw.
> > Cheers
> > Joy
> >
> > On 23/07/2013 2:02 a.m., Dorothy K. Gordon wrote:
> >> Thanks for you feedback DeeDee, I will certainly try and see that this
> is addressed in next year's
> > edition of the school. We can probably involve Afrinic and get a full
> > paper written up.
> >>
> >> best regards
> >>
> >> Dorothy K. Gordon
> >> Director-General
> >> Ghana-India Kofi Annan Centre of Excellence in ICT
> >> Mobile: 233 265005712
> >> Direct Line: 233 302 683579
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> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "DeeDee Halleck" <deedeehalleck at gmail.com>
> >> To: "Wolfgang Kleinwächter"
> > <wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de>
> >> Cc: ncuc-discuss at lists.ncuc.org
> >> Sent: Monday, 22 July, 2013 1:37:58 PM GMT +00:00 Casablanca / Monrovia
> >> Subject: Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] Durban Follow Up
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thank you, Wolfgang. I too heard very positive response to the
> > "African School". For me the missing element in the meeting was any
> > active participation by African representatives. I wish there could have
> > been a school for ICANN to learn about the history and status of
> > internet access and use in Africa. The only substantial contribution was
> > the all too short presentation by Nil Quaynor at the final public Board
> > meeting in which he was chosen to celebrate the Mandela birthday. I
> > would have like to learn more about the internet in Africa from its
> > "father" Nil and others who are involved in the struggle for continental
> > bandwidth and, yes, domain names.
> >>
> >>
> >> DeeDee
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 6:01 AM, "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" <
> > wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de > wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi everybody
> >>
> >> back home after a long journey I want to thank all NCUCrs for the
> > great collaboration in Durban. It was one of the most succesful NCUC
> > participation in an ICANN meeting. Here are some of my key observations:
> >>
> >> 1. NCUC had very good meetings with Board members, the two Co-Chairs
> > of the GAC (for the first time) and members of ATRT 2 as well es EWG
> > where we raised key issues, in particular Privacy, Freedom of Expression
> > Competition, Policy vs. Implementation and the gaps in ICANNs practice
> > of the multistakeholder model. We had very clear positions, inter alia
> > to RAA (unified support for Article 29 WP letter), IGO/INGO WG, TMCH 50+
> > and Safeguards in new gTLD program. Our councillors made very
> > constructive contributions with clear statements both during the two
> > GNSO days and in the GNSO Council meeting. My impression is that the
> > collaborative climate in the council with CSG and the Contracting House
> > has improved. Good diplomacy! However, we still see that we get veryx
> > often "verbal support" in the discussions which then is totally ignored
> > if it comes to concrete decisions. We have flagged this and have it
> > flagged again and again.
> >>
> >> 2. We had a very good constituency meeting. Brochure, Website, facts
> > and figures made its way into the broader community and we are more
> > visible than ever. Thanks Bill, Tapani and others for the hard day to
> > day work. Probably the brochure is not only good for outreach but also
> > for inreach. I had a discussion with Bruce Tonkin and he had no
> > knowledge that NCUC has so many members. For him NCUC was a small group
> > of some (critical) intellectuals. He was surprised that times have
> > changed. And I am sure that a lot of other board members, ICANN staff
> > and leaders are still have their outdated stereotypes ;-((((
> >>
> >> 3. The relationship with NPOC has substantially improved. In our joint
> > meetings as NCSG we had unified positions. Marie Laure was a excellent
> > proxy in the Council, This harmony came for some outsiders as a surprise
> > and my impression was, that some people would have preferred to see more
> > controversy in infighting within the NCSG, which fortunately did not
> > take place. Unfortunately Alain was not in Durban. He is struggling with
> > his illness and we all wished him well.
> >>
> >> 4. There was no formal discussion of the I*Plus Alliance project of
> > NPOC members with NCUC but my impression was that the I*organisations
> > themselves are rather sceptical. The idea is not bad, but the project
> > looks very general and could be done probably by the I*organisations
> > themselves better. It needs much more work to do if something should
> > come our of this. In my eyes too late for Bali. And we could have better
> > things on the agenda for BA.
> >>
> >> 5. The meeting with ALAC was quite good. Based on a critical comment
> > from the consultations with the two GAC Vice Chairs ("as governments we
> > are sometimes confused if we try to find out who represents civil
> > society in ICANN") an idea emerged in Durban to think about the
> > establishment of a "Civil Society Sector" within a reformed ICANN
> > structure. Such a "Civil Society Sector" would allow the various CS
> > bodies within ICANN (NCSG/NCUC, ALAC/RALOS, new emerging community based
> > gTLD constituencies and others) to coordinate their positions to speak
> > with one voice to the Board and the GAC. Such a sector (with a CS
> > Coordination Committee/CSCC) could emerge on the "Road to London" where
> > in June 2014 the second Internet Users Summit (ATLAS II) will take
> > place. ALACs chair Olivier was very open to this project. We should
> > continue the discussion in Bali and BA and be more active in the ATLAS
> WGs.
> >>
> >> 6. The planned CEO Round Table with CS leaders, orginally scheduled
> > for end of June 2013, was again the subject of consultations with ICANN
> > staff. The new idea is to have it in January 2014, probably in Istanbul.
> > The meeting needs much more detailed preparations. And it should be
> > integrated into the planning fo the "Road to London". It should be also
> > linked to the work of the new five committees Fad has launched. NCUC has
> > a lot of intellectual capacity to work closely with the new "Group of
> > the Five". Another challenge with good opportunties for NCUC.
> >>
> >> 7. The African School on Internet Governance was seen as a great
> > success in the whole ICANN community and NCUCs role was very recognized.
> > This is an avenue where we can get a lot of more credits when we
> > continue this (probably in Singapore next year for Asia). Similar
> > succesful was the workshop on closed generics. Great!
> >>
> >> Best wishes
> >>
> >> wolfgang
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