<div dir="ltr">This is is great news. <div><br></div><div>I was at the Saturday event on DNS and Africa but I didn't see anyone I remember. I am sure they were there.</div><div><br></div><div>G</div></div><div class="gmail_extra">
<br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr">Glenn McKnight<br><a href="mailto:mcknight.glenn@gmail.com" target="_blank">mcknight.glenn@gmail.com</a><br>skype gmcknight<br>twitter gmcknight<br>.</div></div>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 8:09 AM, Avri Doria <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:avri@ella.com" target="_blank">avri@ella.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Hi,<br>
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A third of the students participated?! That is really good. I saw a bunch around during the week but did not know it was that many.<br>
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>From all the Schools on Ig I have taught, I would say this was the most energetic, multistakeholder and participatory one I have ever seen.<br>
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Shows the wisdom, also, of pairing a school with an Ig event.<br>
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On 24 Jul 2013, at 23:13, joy wrote:<br>
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> Thanks for the post Wolfgang.<br>
> Deed you are right about the regional perspectives in the ICANN meeting<br>
> as a whole - this seems to be an on-going issue.<br>
> I'd only add that quite a few (about 12) of the African IG school<br>
> participants did participate in the ICANN meeting, some quite actively<br>
> despite it being their first meeting. For example, a Botswana<br>
> participant sat in on the GAC meetings and engaged with her country's<br>
> GAC representative, several of the Nigerians attended the NCUC day and<br>
> the discussion in the session with Anriette Esterhuysen, the Tanzanian<br>
> participants also attended - those were just some of the ones I saw.<br>
> Cheers<br>
> Joy<br>
><br>
> On 23/07/2013 2:02 a.m., Dorothy K. Gordon wrote:<br>
>> Thanks for you feedback DeeDee, I will certainly try and see that this is addressed in next year's<br>
> edition of the school. We can probably involve Afrinic and get a full<br>
> paper written up.<br>
>><br>
>> best regards<br>
>><br>
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>> ----- Original Message -----<br>
>> From: "DeeDee Halleck" <<a href="mailto:deedeehalleck@gmail.com">deedeehalleck@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> To: "Wolfgang Kleinwächter"<br>
> <<a href="mailto:wolfgang.kleinwaechter@medienkomm.uni-halle.de">wolfgang.kleinwaechter@medienkomm.uni-halle.de</a>><br>
>> Cc: <a href="mailto:ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org">ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org</a><br>
>> Sent: Monday, 22 July, 2013 1:37:58 PM GMT +00:00 Casablanca / Monrovia<br>
>> Subject: Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] Durban Follow Up<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Thank you, Wolfgang. I too heard very positive response to the<br>
> "African School". For me the missing element in the meeting was any<br>
> active participation by African representatives. I wish there could have<br>
> been a school for ICANN to learn about the history and status of<br>
> internet access and use in Africa. The only substantial contribution was<br>
> the all too short presentation by Nil Quaynor at the final public Board<br>
> meeting in which he was chosen to celebrate the Mandela birthday. I<br>
> would have like to learn more about the internet in Africa from its<br>
> "father" Nil and others who are involved in the struggle for continental<br>
> bandwidth and, yes, domain names.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> DeeDee<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 6:01 AM, "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" <<br>
> <a href="mailto:wolfgang.kleinwaechter@medienkomm.uni-halle.de">wolfgang.kleinwaechter@medienkomm.uni-halle.de</a> > wrote:<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Hi everybody<br>
>><br>
>> back home after a long journey I want to thank all NCUCrs for the<br>
> great collaboration in Durban. It was one of the most succesful NCUC<br>
> participation in an ICANN meeting. Here are some of my key observations:<br>
>><br>
>> 1. NCUC had very good meetings with Board members, the two Co-Chairs<br>
> of the GAC (for the first time) and members of ATRT 2 as well es EWG<br>
> where we raised key issues, in particular Privacy, Freedom of Expression<br>
> Competition, Policy vs. Implementation and the gaps in ICANNs practice<br>
> of the multistakeholder model. We had very clear positions, inter alia<br>
> to RAA (unified support for Article 29 WP letter), IGO/INGO WG, TMCH 50+<br>
> and Safeguards in new gTLD program. Our councillors made very<br>
> constructive contributions with clear statements both during the two<br>
> GNSO days and in the GNSO Council meeting. My impression is that the<br>
> collaborative climate in the council with CSG and the Contracting House<br>
> has improved. Good diplomacy! However, we still see that we get veryx<br>
> often "verbal support" in the discussions which then is totally ignored<br>
> if it comes to concrete decisions. We have flagged this and have it<br>
> flagged again and again.<br>
>><br>
>> 2. We had a very good constituency meeting. Brochure, Website, facts<br>
> and figures made its way into the broader community and we are more<br>
> visible than ever. Thanks Bill, Tapani and others for the hard day to<br>
> day work. Probably the brochure is not only good for outreach but also<br>
> for inreach. I had a discussion with Bruce Tonkin and he had no<br>
> knowledge that NCUC has so many members. For him NCUC was a small group<br>
> of some (critical) intellectuals. He was surprised that times have<br>
> changed. And I am sure that a lot of other board members, ICANN staff<br>
> and leaders are still have their outdated stereotypes ;-((((<br>
>><br>
>> 3. The relationship with NPOC has substantially improved. In our joint<br>
> meetings as NCSG we had unified positions. Marie Laure was a excellent<br>
> proxy in the Council, This harmony came for some outsiders as a surprise<br>
> and my impression was, that some people would have preferred to see more<br>
> controversy in infighting within the NCSG, which fortunately did not<br>
> take place. Unfortunately Alain was not in Durban. He is struggling with<br>
> his illness and we all wished him well.<br>
>><br>
>> 4. There was no formal discussion of the I*Plus Alliance project of<br>
> NPOC members with NCUC but my impression was that the I*organisations<br>
> themselves are rather sceptical. The idea is not bad, but the project<br>
> looks very general and could be done probably by the I*organisations<br>
> themselves better. It needs much more work to do if something should<br>
> come our of this. In my eyes too late for Bali. And we could have better<br>
> things on the agenda for BA.<br>
>><br>
>> 5. The meeting with ALAC was quite good. Based on a critical comment<br>
> from the consultations with the two GAC Vice Chairs ("as governments we<br>
> are sometimes confused if we try to find out who represents civil<br>
> society in ICANN") an idea emerged in Durban to think about the<br>
> establishment of a "Civil Society Sector" within a reformed ICANN<br>
> structure. Such a "Civil Society Sector" would allow the various CS<br>
> bodies within ICANN (NCSG/NCUC, ALAC/RALOS, new emerging community based<br>
> gTLD constituencies and others) to coordinate their positions to speak<br>
> with one voice to the Board and the GAC. Such a sector (with a CS<br>
> Coordination Committee/CSCC) could emerge on the "Road to London" where<br>
> in June 2014 the second Internet Users Summit (ATLAS II) will take<br>
> place. ALACs chair Olivier was very open to this project. We should<br>
> continue the discussion in Bali and BA and be more active in the ATLAS WGs.<br>
>><br>
>> 6. The planned CEO Round Table with CS leaders, orginally scheduled<br>
> for end of June 2013, was again the subject of consultations with ICANN<br>
> staff. The new idea is to have it in January 2014, probably in Istanbul.<br>
> The meeting needs much more detailed preparations. And it should be<br>
> integrated into the planning fo the "Road to London". It should be also<br>
> linked to the work of the new five committees Fad has launched. NCUC has<br>
> a lot of intellectual capacity to work closely with the new "Group of<br>
> the Five". Another challenge with good opportunties for NCUC.<br>
>><br>
>> 7. The African School on Internet Governance was seen as a great<br>
> success in the whole ICANN community and NCUCs role was very recognized.<br>
> This is an avenue where we can get a lot of more credits when we<br>
> continue this (probably in Singapore next year for Asia). Similar<br>
> succesful was the workshop on closed generics. Great!<br>
>><br>
>> Best wishes<br>
>><br>
>> wolfgang<br>
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