[NCUC-DISCUSS] Durban Follow Up

Thu Jul 25 14:09:47 CEST 2013

Hi,

A third of the students participated?!  That is really good.  I saw a bunch around during the week but did not know it was that many.

>From all the Schools on Ig I have taught, I would say this was the most energetic, multistakeholder and participatory one I have ever seen.

Shows the wisdom, also, of pairing a school with an Ig event.

avri

On 24 Jul 2013, at 23:13, joy wrote:

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> Thanks for the post Wolfgang.
> Deed you are right about the regional perspectives in the ICANN meeting
> as a whole - this seems to be an on-going issue.
> I'd only add that quite a few (about 12) of the African IG school
> participants did participate in the ICANN meeting, some quite actively
> despite it being their first meeting. For example, a Botswana
> participant sat in on the GAC meetings and engaged with her country's
> GAC representative, several of the Nigerians attended the NCUC day and
> the discussion in the session with Anriette Esterhuysen, the Tanzanian
> participants also attended - those were just some of the ones I saw.
> Cheers
> Joy
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> On 23/07/2013 2:02 a.m., Dorothy K. Gordon wrote:
>> Thanks for you feedback DeeDee, I will certainly try and see that this is addressed in next year's
> edition of the school. We can probably involve Afrinic and get a full
> paper written up.
>> 
>> best regards
>> 
>> Dorothy K. Gordon
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>> From: "DeeDee Halleck" <deedeehalleck at gmail.com>
>> To: "Wolfgang Kleinwächter"
> <wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de>
>> Cc: ncuc-discuss at lists.ncuc.org
>> Sent: Monday, 22 July, 2013 1:37:58 PM GMT +00:00 Casablanca / Monrovia
>> Subject: Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] Durban Follow Up
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>> 
>> Thank you, Wolfgang. I too heard very positive response to the
> "African School". For me the missing element in the meeting was any
> active participation by African representatives. I wish there could have
> been a school for ICANN to learn about the history and status of
> internet access and use in Africa. The only substantial contribution was
> the all too short presentation by Nil Quaynor at the final public Board
> meeting in which he was chosen to celebrate the Mandela birthday. I
> would have like to learn more about the internet in Africa from its
> "father" Nil and others who are involved in the struggle for continental
> bandwidth and, yes, domain names.
>> 
>> 
>> DeeDee
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>> On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 6:01 AM, "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" <
> wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de > wrote:
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>> 
>> Hi everybody
>> 
>> back home after a long journey I want to thank all NCUCrs for the
> great collaboration in Durban. It was one of the most succesful NCUC
> participation in an ICANN meeting. Here are some of my key observations:
>> 
>> 1. NCUC had very good meetings with Board members, the two Co-Chairs
> of the GAC (for the first time) and members of ATRT 2 as well es EWG
> where we raised key issues, in particular Privacy, Freedom of Expression
> Competition, Policy vs. Implementation and the gaps in ICANNs practice
> of the multistakeholder model. We had very clear positions, inter alia
> to RAA (unified support for Article 29 WP letter), IGO/INGO WG, TMCH 50+
> and Safeguards in new gTLD program. Our councillors made very
> constructive contributions with clear statements both during the two
> GNSO days and in the GNSO Council meeting. My impression is that the
> collaborative climate in the council with CSG and the Contracting House
> has improved. Good diplomacy! However, we still see that we get veryx
> often "verbal support" in the discussions which then is totally ignored
> if it comes to concrete decisions. We have flagged this and have it
> flagged again and again.
>> 
>> 2. We had a very good constituency meeting. Brochure, Website, facts
> and figures made its way into the broader community and we are more
> visible than ever. Thanks Bill, Tapani and others for the hard day to
> day work. Probably the brochure is not only good for outreach but also
> for inreach. I had a discussion with Bruce Tonkin and he had no
> knowledge that NCUC has so many members. For him NCUC was a small group
> of some (critical) intellectuals. He was surprised that times have
> changed. And I am sure that a lot of other board members, ICANN staff
> and leaders are still have their outdated stereotypes ;-((((
>> 
>> 3. The relationship with NPOC has substantially improved. In our joint
> meetings as NCSG we had unified positions. Marie Laure was a excellent
> proxy in the Council, This harmony came for some outsiders as a surprise
> and my impression was, that some people would have preferred to see more
> controversy in infighting within the NCSG, which fortunately did not
> take place. Unfortunately Alain was not in Durban. He is struggling with
> his illness and we all wished him well.
>> 
>> 4. There was no formal discussion of the I*Plus Alliance project of
> NPOC members with NCUC but my impression was that the I*organisations
> themselves are rather sceptical. The idea is not bad, but the project
> looks very general and could be done probably by the I*organisations
> themselves better. It needs much more work to do if something should
> come our of this. In my eyes too late for Bali. And we could have better
> things on the agenda for BA.
>> 
>> 5. The meeting with ALAC was quite good. Based on a critical comment
> from the consultations with the two GAC Vice Chairs ("as governments we
> are sometimes confused if we try to find out who represents civil
> society in ICANN") an idea emerged in Durban to think about the
> establishment of a "Civil Society Sector" within a reformed ICANN
> structure. Such a "Civil Society Sector" would allow the various CS
> bodies within ICANN (NCSG/NCUC, ALAC/RALOS, new emerging community based
> gTLD constituencies and others) to coordinate their positions to speak
> with one voice to the Board and the GAC. Such a sector (with a CS
> Coordination Committee/CSCC) could emerge on the "Road to London" where
> in June 2014 the second Internet Users Summit (ATLAS II) will take
> place. ALACs chair Olivier was very open to this project. We should
> continue the discussion in Bali and BA and be more active in the ATLAS WGs.
>> 
>> 6. The planned CEO Round Table with CS leaders, orginally scheduled
> for end of June 2013, was again the subject of consultations with ICANN
> staff. The new idea is to have it in January 2014, probably in Istanbul.
> The meeting needs much more detailed preparations. And it should be
> integrated into the planning fo the "Road to London". It should be also
> linked to the work of the new five committees Fad has launched. NCUC has
> a lot of intellectual capacity to work closely with the new "Group of
> the Five". Another challenge with good opportunties for NCUC.
>> 
>> 7. The African School on Internet Governance was seen as a great
> success in the whole ICANN community and NCUCs role was very recognized.
> This is an avenue where we can get a lot of more credits when we
> continue this (probably in Singapore next year for Asia). Similar
> succesful was the workshop on closed generics. Great!
>> 
>> Best wishes
>> 
>> wolfgang
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