Fwd: Application For New GNSO Constituency in The NCSG -- PIA-CC

[Adam Peake]

Why wouldn't they apply to the ISP constituency?

Adam



On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 12:21 AM, <Mary.Wong at law.unh.edu> wrote:

>  It seems that most of us share the same sentiments as regards both the
> rigidity of the ICANN constituency structure and the resulting "solution"
> for the new applicant constituency. Since the closing date for public
> comment on this is Saturday 17 November, can those members who volunteered
> to work on this confirm that a comment along the lines of what's been
> suggested will be submitted?
>
>  I think it's important that NCSG as a whole, i.e. both NCUC and NPOC,
> submit a comment on this, together.
>
>  Cheers
>
> Mary
>
>
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>
> >>>
>
> *From: *
>
> Alain Berranger <alain.berranger at GMAIL.COM>
>
> *To:*
>
> <NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU>
>
> *Date: *
>
> 11/14/2012 9:42 AM
>
> *Subject: *
>
> Re: [NCSG-Discuss] Fwd: Application For New GNSO Constituency in The NCSG
> -- PIA-CC
>
> Adam et al,
>
>
>   As I see it, CCAOI is an NFP Indian Trust and represents varied groups
> in India such as connectivity and content providers, public Internet access
> points, private Cybercafes owners, social mission telecentres and Internet
> users related to all of the above. It is an unique hybrid/mixed bag
> organization and does not fit neatly anywhere in ICANN as a member. It
> certainly fails to meet NCSG membership criteria and would not be
> admissible for NPOC membership as a result. In fact, it looks to me that
> there is no obvious place for CCAOI to become an ICANN member, as our
> current structure stands.
>
>
>   If ( a big if given the NCSG charter that regulates NPOC's activities!)
> NPOC was allowed to use a single membership criteria of NFP status, as it
> advocates, then yes, CCAOI would be admissible as an NPOC member.
>
>
>   I will comment elsewhere on the new Constituency application, but will
> say right away that the first cut analysis by Dave Cake meets with my
> agreement: the business side into CSG and the non-commercial side into
> NCSG.
>
>
>   Alain
>
>
>   Alain
>
> On Thursday, October 11, 2012, Adam Peake wrote:
>
>>  Shouldn't the ISP constituency be involved in this discussion?
>>
>>
>>   From the application documents, looks like they are trying to create
>> an association, rather than being an already established group.
>>
>>
>>   Perhaps as a member of NPOC rather than a new constituency?
>>
>>
>>   Adam
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, October 11, 2012, Marc Perkel wrote:
>>
>>>  I agree - Non-Commercial means non-commercial. So the for profit can go
>>> somewhere else.
>>>
>>> On 10/10/2012 8:42 PM, Andrew A. Adams wrote:
>>>
>>>>  ICANN's Silo model indeed produces a problem for this group. I think
>>>> what
>>>> they really need to do is split themselves for the purposes of ICANN
>>>> formal
>>>> structures into two groups: "non-profit Public Internet Access" and
>>>> "Cyber-cafes and other commercial shared computer access providers",
>>>> apply
>>>> for NCSG/CSG group membership but agree amongst themselves that they
>>>> will
>>>> coordinate strongly between them on promoting the clear common
>>>> interests such
>>>> a group has.
>>>>
>>>> I'm afraid I could not support the inclusion of for-profit access
>>>> providers
>>>> in an NCSG constituency as it violates the non-commercial principle of
>>>> SG
>>>> membership.
>>>>
>>>>
>
> --
> Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA
>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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