Why wouldn't they apply to the ISP constituency? <div><br></div><div>Adam</div><div><br></div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 12:21 AM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Mary.Wong@law.unh.edu" target="_blank">Mary.Wong@law.unh.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<font face="Lucida Grande" size="3">It seems that most of us share the same sentiments as regards both the rigidity of the ICANN constituency structure and the resulting "solution" for the new applicant constituency. Since the closing date for public comment on this is Saturday 17 November, can those members who volunteered to work on this confirm that a comment along the lines of what's been suggested will be submitted?</font> </p>
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<font face="Lucida Grande" size="3">I think it's important that NCSG as a whole, i.e. both NCUC and NPOC, submit a comment on this, together.</font> </p>
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Re: [NCSG-Discuss] Fwd: Application For New GNSO Constituency in The NCSG -- PIA-CC </p>
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As I see it, CCAOI is an NFP Indian Trust and represents varied groups in India such as connectivity and content providers, public Internet access points, private Cybercafes owners, social mission telecentres and Internet users related to all of the above. It is an unique hybrid/mixed bag organization and does not fit neatly anywhere in ICANN as a member. It certainly fails to meet NCSG membership criteria and would not be admissible for NPOC membership as a result. In fact, it looks to me that there is no obvious place for CCAOI to become an ICANN member, as our current structure stands. </p>
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If ( a big if given the NCSG charter that regulates NPOC's activities!) NPOC was allowed to use a single membership criteria of NFP status, as it advocates, then yes, CCAOI would be admissible as an NPOC member. </p>
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I will comment elsewhere on the new Constituency application, but will say right away that the first cut analysis by Dave Cake meets with my agreement: the business side into CSG and the non-commercial side into NCSG. </p>
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Alain<br><br>On Thursday, October 11, 2012, Adam Peake wrote:<br> </p>
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From the application documents, looks like they are trying to create an association, rather than being an already established group. </p>
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Perhaps as a member of NPOC rather than a new constituency? </p>
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I agree - Non-Commercial means non-commercial. So the for profit can go somewhere else.<br><br>On 10/10/2012 8:42 PM, Andrew A. Adams wrote:<br> </p>
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ICANN's Silo model indeed produces a problem for this group. I think what<br>they really need to do is split themselves for the purposes of ICANN formal<br>structures into two groups: "non-profit Public Internet Access" and<br>
"Cyber-cafes and other commercial shared computer access providers", apply<br>for NCSG/CSG group membership but agree amongst themselves that they will<br>coordinate strongly between them on promoting the clear common interests such<br>
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