Fwd: [npoc-voice] NPOC Proposal for IOC-RC protection

Tue Mar 13 21:22:14 CET 2012

Carlos, thanks for the clarification about Portugal.

Alain

On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Carlos A. Afonso <ca at cafonso.ca> wrote:

> Alain, I am not sure Portugal made the same proposal as NPOC's. Portugal's
> is quite detailed and treats separately the actual case of IOC and RC, and
> the proposal to embed in the rules the treatment of these cases based on
> the characteristics of well defined types of organizations instead of going
> on a case by case basis.
>
> I will look for the transcript.
>
> --c.a.
>
>
> On 03/13/2012 02:06 AM, Alain Berranger wrote:
>
>> Robin,
>>
>> Thanks for the clarification and the sense of direction the NCSG needs to
>> take. It is interesting that Portugal made the same proposal as NPOC. I
>> think we need to engage on substantive ideas on how to go forward. The
>> UN+9/10 may just be a acceptable outcome down the road... we just don't
>> know. It would be interesting to dig into the Portugal proposal.
>>
>> Alain
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Robin Gross<robin at ipjustice.org>  wrote:
>>
>>  I have to disagree, Adam.  We need the community to engage in this issue
>>> very much.   This proposal is a not a final text, but a starting point to
>>> try to reach a compromise.  If it is "too late" for the community to
>>> engage, it is because the RC/IOC came so late in the game.  I don't
>>> believe
>>> the bottom-up policy development process should be shoved aside because
>>> of
>>> AC/IOC's late request.
>>>
>>> Robin
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 12, 2012, at 4:35 PM, Adam Peake wrote:
>>>
>>>  Alain, hi.
>>>>
>>>> Suggest it's a little late to be recommending such a fundamental
>>>> change to the applicant proces. Not going to fly. So let's not waste
>>>> our time on it.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Adam
>>>>
>>>> Adam Peake
>>>> GLOCOM Tokyo
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:20 AM, Alain Berranger
>>>> <alain.berranger at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear NCSG Colleagues,
>>>>>
>>>>> FYI
>>>>>
>>>>> Alain
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>> From: Jean-Louis Ecochard<jecochard at tnc.org>
>>>>> Date: Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 11:42 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [npoc-voice] NPOC Proposal for IOC-RC protection
>>>>> To: Alain Berranger<alain.berranger@**gmail.com<alain.berranger at gmail.com>>,
>>>>> "npoc-voice at icann.org"
>>>>> <npoc-voice at icann.org>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Alain,
>>>>>
>>>>> Merci de votre proposition.
>>>>>
>>>>> One of the prime concern is the conversion of a known NGO domain name
>>>>>
>>>> into a
>>>
>>>> gTLD.
>>>>> This is because a domain name is an NGO brand on the internet.
>>>>> We also know that words like relief, cancer, heart, peace, nature, etc.
>>>>> cannot receive trademark protection yet they represent essential
>>>>>
>>>> internet
>>>
>>>> brands of the NGOs they represent.
>>>>> I believe ANY NGO with a strong internet brand presence would find it
>>>>> disastrous to see their domain name converted into a gTLD (e.g. In our
>>>>>
>>>> case
>>>
>>>> of nature.org seeing a .nature gTLD).
>>>>>
>>>>> Henceforth I recommend we propose protection of any .org  or
>>>>>
>>>> .org.country
>>>
>>>> domain name in active use by "Any organization operating globally in the
>>>>> public interest and enjoying International Legal Personality in the
>>>>>
>>>> country
>>>
>>>> where its Headquarters are located, and its members." as of January 1
>>>>>
>>>> 2012.
>>>
>>>> This means that ICANN would prohibit the creation of a gTLD that is the
>>>>>
>>>> same
>>>
>>>> as a domain name of an NGO in use 1/1/12 and active.
>>>>>
>>>>> This ensures protection of the capital invested by NGOs on their brand
>>>>> presence without making it too complicated for ICANN to administer
>>>>> (I.e.
>>>>> Check for .org existence, check if own by  NGO).
>>>>>
>>>>> I welcome thoughts and discussions on this extension of Alain's
>>>>>
>>>> suggestion.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> JL
>>>>>
>>>>> be green – read on the screen
>>>>> --
>>>>> Jean-Louis Écochard
>>>>> Vice President and Chief Information Officer
>>>>>
>>>>> The Nature Conservancy
>>>>> New Zealand Office
>>>>> 126D Apotu Road, RD1
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>> Conservation Commons www.conservationcommons.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "An individual without information can't take responsibility. An
>>>>>
>>>> individual
>>>
>>>> with information can't help but take responsibility."
>>>>>  - Jan Carlzon, former President and CEO of the Scandinavian Airlines
>>>>>
>>>> Group
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Alain Berranger
>>>>> <alain.berranger at gmail.com<**mailto:alain.berranger at gmail.**com<alain.berranger at gmail.com>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 18:06:11 -0400
>>>>> To:<npoc-voice at icann.org<**mailto:npoc-voice at icann.org>>
>>>>> Subject: [npoc-voice] NPOC Proposal for IOC-RC protection
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear NPOC members:
>>>>>
>>>>> Greetings from San José. As Acting Vice Chair, I would like to consult
>>>>>
>>>> you
>>>
>>>> on an important issue:
>>>>>
>>>>> Context: Given the tension here on the IOC and Red Cross exemption
>>>>>
>>>> (some of
>>>
>>>> us call it protection) and the Drafting Committee Chair report to GNSO
>>>>>
>>>> this
>>>
>>>> morning - we find it wise, for the benefit of our current and future
>>>>>
>>>> NPOC
>>>
>>>> members, as well as the ICANN Community at large, that NPOC promotes and
>>>>> supports a) the proposal from the WG and b), in a broader manner, the
>>>>> generic extension of this protection based on avoiding the setting of a
>>>>> precedent, and based on objective and independantly verifiable criteria
>>>>>
>>>> to
>>>
>>>> define who or who does not qualify:
>>>>>
>>>>> Proposition:
>>>>> Would receive new gTLD protection: "Any organization operating globally
>>>>>
>>>> in
>>>
>>>> the public interest and enjoying International Legal Personality in the
>>>>> country where its Headquarters are located, and its members."
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for your attention to this important matter. Please respond
>>>>> by
>>>>> Tuesday 13 March 17:00 San José time.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Alain Berranger
>>>>> --
>>>>> Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA
>>>>> Member, Board of Directors, CECI,
>>>>> http://www.ceci.ca<
>>>>>
>>>> http://www.ceci.ca/en/about-**ceci/team/board-of-directors/<http://www.ceci.ca/en/about-ceci/team/board-of-directors/>
>>> >
>>>
>>>> Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business,
>>>>> www.schulich.yorku.ca<http://**www.schulich.yorku.ca<http://www.schulich.yorku.ca>
>>>>> >
>>>>> Trustee, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation,
>>>>> www.gkpfoundation.org<http://**www.gkpfoundation.org<http://www.gkpfoundation.org>
>>>>> >
>>>>> NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation,
>>>>> www.chasquinet.org<http://www.**chasquinet.org<http://www.chasquinet.org>
>>>>> >
>>>>> interim Membership Committee Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN,
>>>>> http://npoc.org/
>>>>> O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824
>>>>> Skype: alain.berranger
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA
>>>>> Member, Board of Directors, CECI, http://www.ceci.ca
>>>>> Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business,
>>>>>
>>>> www.schulich.yorku.ca
>>>
>>>> Trustee, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, www.gkpfoundation.org
>>>>> NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, www.chasquinet.org
>>>>> interim Membership Committee Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN,
>>>>> http://npoc.org/
>>>>> O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824
>>>>> Skype: alain.berranger
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>

-- 
Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA
Member, Board of Directors, CECI,
http://www.ceci.ca<http://www.ceci.ca/en/about-ceci/team/board-of-directors/>
Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, www.schulich.yorku.ca
Trustee, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, www.gkpfoundation.org
NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, www.chasquinet.org
interim Membership Committee Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/
O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824
Skype: alain.berranger
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