Fwd: [npoc-voice] NPOC Proposal for IOC-RC protection

Tue Mar 13 14:20:02 CET 2012

Alain, I am not sure Portugal made the same proposal as NPOC's. 
Portugal's is quite detailed and treats separately the actual case of 
IOC and RC, and the proposal to embed in the rules the treatment of 
these cases based on the characteristics of well defined types of 
organizations instead of going on a case by case basis.

I will look for the transcript.

--c.a.

On 03/13/2012 02:06 AM, Alain Berranger wrote:
> Robin,
>
> Thanks for the clarification and the sense of direction the NCSG needs to
> take. It is interesting that Portugal made the same proposal as NPOC. I
> think we need to engage on substantive ideas on how to go forward. The
> UN+9/10 may just be a acceptable outcome down the road... we just don't
> know. It would be interesting to dig into the Portugal proposal.
>
> Alain
>
> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Robin Gross<robin at ipjustice.org>  wrote:
>
>> I have to disagree, Adam.  We need the community to engage in this issue
>> very much.   This proposal is a not a final text, but a starting point to
>> try to reach a compromise.  If it is "too late" for the community to
>> engage, it is because the RC/IOC came so late in the game.  I don't believe
>> the bottom-up policy development process should be shoved aside because of
>> AC/IOC's late request.
>>
>> Robin
>>
>>
>> On Mar 12, 2012, at 4:35 PM, Adam Peake wrote:
>>
>>> Alain, hi.
>>>
>>> Suggest it's a little late to be recommending such a fundamental
>>> change to the applicant proces. Not going to fly. So let's not waste
>>> our time on it.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>> Adam Peake
>>> GLOCOM Tokyo
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:20 AM, Alain Berranger
>>> <alain.berranger at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>> Dear NCSG Colleagues,
>>>>
>>>> FYI
>>>>
>>>> Alain
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> From: Jean-Louis Ecochard<jecochard at tnc.org>
>>>> Date: Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 11:42 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [npoc-voice] NPOC Proposal for IOC-RC protection
>>>> To: Alain Berranger<alain.berranger at gmail.com>, "npoc-voice at icann.org"
>>>> <npoc-voice at icann.org>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Alain,
>>>>
>>>> Merci de votre proposition.
>>>>
>>>> One of the prime concern is the conversion of a known NGO domain name
>> into a
>>>> gTLD.
>>>> This is because a domain name is an NGO brand on the internet.
>>>> We also know that words like relief, cancer, heart, peace, nature, etc.
>>>> cannot receive trademark protection yet they represent essential
>> internet
>>>> brands of the NGOs they represent.
>>>> I believe ANY NGO with a strong internet brand presence would find it
>>>> disastrous to see their domain name converted into a gTLD (e.g. In our
>> case
>>>> of nature.org seeing a .nature gTLD).
>>>>
>>>> Henceforth I recommend we propose protection of any .org  or
>> .org.country
>>>> domain name in active use by "Any organization operating globally in the
>>>> public interest and enjoying International Legal Personality in the
>> country
>>>> where its Headquarters are located, and its members." as of January 1
>> 2012.
>>>> This means that ICANN would prohibit the creation of a gTLD that is the
>> same
>>>> as a domain name of an NGO in use 1/1/12 and active.
>>>>
>>>> This ensures protection of the capital invested by NGOs on their brand
>>>> presence without making it too complicated for ICANN to administer (I.e.
>>>> Check for .org existence, check if own by  NGO).
>>>>
>>>> I welcome thoughts and discussions on this extension of Alain's
>> suggestion.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> JL
>>>>
>>>> be green – read on the screen
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>>>>
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>>>>
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>> individual
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>>>>   - Jan Carlzon, former President and CEO of the Scandinavian Airlines
>> Group
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: Alain Berranger
>>>> <alain.berranger at gmail.com<mailto:alain.berranger at gmail.com>>
>>>> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 18:06:11 -0400
>>>> To:<npoc-voice at icann.org<mailto:npoc-voice at icann.org>>
>>>> Subject: [npoc-voice] NPOC Proposal for IOC-RC protection
>>>>
>>>> Dear NPOC members:
>>>>
>>>> Greetings from San José. As Acting Vice Chair, I would like to consult
>> you
>>>> on an important issue:
>>>>
>>>> Context: Given the tension here on the IOC and Red Cross exemption
>> (some of
>>>> us call it protection) and the Drafting Committee Chair report to GNSO
>> this
>>>> morning - we find it wise, for the benefit of our current and future
>> NPOC
>>>> members, as well as the ICANN Community at large, that NPOC promotes and
>>>> supports a) the proposal from the WG and b), in a broader manner, the
>>>> generic extension of this protection based on avoiding the setting of a
>>>> precedent, and based on objective and independantly verifiable criteria
>> to
>>>> define who or who does not qualify:
>>>>
>>>> Proposition:
>>>> Would receive new gTLD protection: "Any organization operating globally
>> in
>>>> the public interest and enjoying International Legal Personality in the
>>>> country where its Headquarters are located, and its members."
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for your attention to this important matter. Please respond by
>>>> Tuesday 13 March 17:00 San José time.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Alain Berranger
>>>> --
>>>> Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA
>>>> Member, Board of Directors, CECI,
>>>> http://www.ceci.ca<
>> http://www.ceci.ca/en/about-ceci/team/board-of-directors/>
>>>> Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business,
>>>> www.schulich.yorku.ca<http://www.schulich.yorku.ca>
>>>> Trustee, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation,
>>>> www.gkpfoundation.org<http://www.gkpfoundation.org>
>>>> NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation,
>>>> www.chasquinet.org<http://www.chasquinet.org>
>>>> interim Membership Committee Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/
>>>> O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824
>>>> Skype: alain.berranger
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA
>>>> Member, Board of Directors, CECI, http://www.ceci.ca
>>>> Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business,
>> www.schulich.yorku.ca
>>>> Trustee, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, www.gkpfoundation.org
>>>> NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, www.chasquinet.org
>>>> interim Membership Committee Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/
>>>> O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824
>>>> Skype: alain.berranger
>>>>
>>>
>>
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