Fwd: [npoc-voice] NPOC Proposal for IOC-RC protection

Tue Mar 13 06:06:44 CET 2012

Robin,

Thanks for the clarification and the sense of direction the NCSG needs to
take. It is interesting that Portugal made the same proposal as NPOC. I
think we need to engage on substantive ideas on how to go forward. The
UN+9/10 may just be a acceptable outcome down the road... we just don't
know. It would be interesting to dig into the Portugal proposal.

Alain

On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org> wrote:

> I have to disagree, Adam.  We need the community to engage in this issue
> very much.   This proposal is a not a final text, but a starting point to
> try to reach a compromise.  If it is "too late" for the community to
> engage, it is because the RC/IOC came so late in the game.  I don't believe
> the bottom-up policy development process should be shoved aside because of
> AC/IOC's late request.
>
> Robin
>
>
> On Mar 12, 2012, at 4:35 PM, Adam Peake wrote:
>
> > Alain, hi.
> >
> > Suggest it's a little late to be recommending such a fundamental
> > change to the applicant proces. Not going to fly. So let's not waste
> > our time on it.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Adam
> >
> > Adam Peake
> > GLOCOM Tokyo
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:20 AM, Alain Berranger
> > <alain.berranger at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Dear NCSG Colleagues,
> >>
> >> FYI
> >>
> >> Alain
> >>
> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >> From: Jean-Louis Ecochard <jecochard at tnc.org>
> >> Date: Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 11:42 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [npoc-voice] NPOC Proposal for IOC-RC protection
> >> To: Alain Berranger <alain.berranger at gmail.com>, "npoc-voice at icann.org"
> >> <npoc-voice at icann.org>
> >>
> >>
> >> Alain,
> >>
> >> Merci de votre proposition.
> >>
> >> One of the prime concern is the conversion of a known NGO domain name
> into a
> >> gTLD.
> >> This is because a domain name is an NGO brand on the internet.
> >> We also know that words like relief, cancer, heart, peace, nature, etc.
> >> cannot receive trademark protection yet they represent essential
> internet
> >> brands of the NGOs they represent.
> >> I believe ANY NGO with a strong internet brand presence would find it
> >> disastrous to see their domain name converted into a gTLD (e.g. In our
> case
> >> of nature.org seeing a .nature gTLD).
> >>
> >> Henceforth I recommend we propose protection of any .org  or
> .org.country
> >> domain name in active use by "Any organization operating globally in the
> >> public interest and enjoying International Legal Personality in the
> country
> >> where its Headquarters are located, and its members." as of January 1
> 2012.
> >> This means that ICANN would prohibit the creation of a gTLD that is the
> same
> >> as a domain name of an NGO in use 1/1/12 and active.
> >>
> >> This ensures protection of the capital invested by NGOs on their brand
> >> presence without making it too complicated for ICANN to administer (I.e.
> >> Check for .org existence, check if own by  NGO).
> >>
> >> I welcome thoughts and discussions on this extension of Alain's
> suggestion.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> JL
> >>
> >> be green – read on the screen
> >> --
> >> Jean-Louis Écochard
> >> Vice President and Chief Information Officer
> >>
> >> The Nature Conservancy
> >> New Zealand Office
> >> 126D Apotu Road, RD1
> >> Whangarei 0185
> >> New Zealand
> >>
> >> jecochard at tnc.org
> >> +1.703.212.3999 (New Zealand Office US dial)
> >> +64.9.974.8195 (New Zealand Office)
> >> +1.703.841.5342 (Arlington World Office Phone)
> >> +1.703.273.0713 (Arlington World Office Fax)
> >> +1.703.841.5304 (Executive Assistant, Jennifer Manaloto)
> >>
> >> Skype jecochard
> >> IM (MSN) jecochard at hotmail.com, (Yahoo & AIM) jecochard at yahoo.com
> >> Facebook jecochard
> >> Twitter @jecochard
> >> LinkedIn http://nz.linkedin.com/in/jecochard
> >>
> >> The Nature Conservancy  www.nature.org
> >> NetHope www.nethope.org
> >> Conservation Commons www.conservationcommons.org
> >>
> >>
> >> "An individual without information can't take responsibility. An
> individual
> >> with information can't help but take responsibility."
> >>  - Jan Carlzon, former President and CEO of the Scandinavian Airlines
> Group
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Alain Berranger
> >> <alain.berranger at gmail.com<mailto:alain.berranger at gmail.com>>
> >> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 18:06:11 -0400
> >> To: <npoc-voice at icann.org<mailto:npoc-voice at icann.org>>
> >> Subject: [npoc-voice] NPOC Proposal for IOC-RC protection
> >>
> >> Dear NPOC members:
> >>
> >> Greetings from San José. As Acting Vice Chair, I would like to consult
> you
> >> on an important issue:
> >>
> >> Context: Given the tension here on the IOC and Red Cross exemption
> (some of
> >> us call it protection) and the Drafting Committee Chair report to GNSO
> this
> >> morning - we find it wise, for the benefit of our current and future
> NPOC
> >> members, as well as the ICANN Community at large, that NPOC promotes and
> >> supports a) the proposal from the WG and b), in a broader manner, the
> >> generic extension of this protection based on avoiding the setting of a
> >> precedent, and based on objective and independantly verifiable criteria
> to
> >> define who or who does not qualify:
> >>
> >> Proposition:
> >> Would receive new gTLD protection: "Any organization operating globally
> in
> >> the public interest and enjoying International Legal Personality in the
> >> country where its Headquarters are located, and its members."
> >>
> >> Thank you for your attention to this important matter. Please respond by
> >> Tuesday 13 March 17:00 San José time.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >>
> >> Alain Berranger
> >> --
> >> Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA
> >> Member, Board of Directors, CECI,
> >> http://www.ceci.ca<
> http://www.ceci.ca/en/about-ceci/team/board-of-directors/>
> >> Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business,
> >> www.schulich.yorku.ca<http://www.schulich.yorku.ca>
> >> Trustee, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation,
> >> www.gkpfoundation.org<http://www.gkpfoundation.org>
> >> NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation,
> >> www.chasquinet.org<http://www.chasquinet.org>
> >> interim Membership Committee Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/
> >> O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824
> >> Skype: alain.berranger
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA
> >> Member, Board of Directors, CECI, http://www.ceci.ca
> >> Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business,
> www.schulich.yorku.ca
> >> Trustee, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, www.gkpfoundation.org
> >> NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, www.chasquinet.org
> >> interim Membership Committee Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/
> >> O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824
> >> Skype: alain.berranger
> >>
> >
>

-- 
Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA
Member, Board of Directors, CECI,
http://www.ceci.ca<http://www.ceci.ca/en/about-ceci/team/board-of-directors/>
Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, www.schulich.yorku.ca
Trustee, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, www.gkpfoundation.org
NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, www.chasquinet.org
interim Membership Committee Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/
O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824
Skype: alain.berranger
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