[NCUC-EC] Finance Committee - NCUC appointment.

Tue Feb 12 22:54:14 CET 2019

I agree with the suggestions to the text

Le mardi 12 février 2019, Louise Marie Hurel <louise.marie.hsd at gmail.com> a
écrit :

> Hi Bruna,
>
> I would change " the EC will deliberate on the appointee with advice from
> NCSG Chair until 28 February" to "the EC will deliberate with the advice
> of the NCSG Chair until *28 February*"
>
> Also "As per NCUC Operating Procedures [1], this selection process can
> choose a candidate with the following characteristics:" to "In accordance
> with our NCUC Operating Procedures [1], the selection process will take
> into account the *following characteristics:*"
>
> Aside from these two points, we're good to go.
>
> All the best,
>
> *Louise Marie Hurel*
>
> Cybersecurity and Digital Liberties Programme | Igarapé Institute
>
> Media and Communications (Data and Society) | London School of Economics
> and Political Science (LSE)
>
> Publications
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> *l.h.dias at lse.ac.uk <l.h.dias at lse.ac.uk> *
> louise.marie.hsd at gmail.com
>
>
>
> On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 at 17:09, Bruna Martins dos Santos <
> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Guys,
>>
>> Any other thoughts on this ?
>>
>> best,
>> B.
>>
>> Em seg, 11 de fev de 2019 às 16:18, Bruna Martins dos Santos <
>> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> escreveu:
>>
>>> I think that the situation might have called for us to remove him from
>>> office, but technically he still is. I will change the wording, thanks
>>> Michael.
>>>
>>> Em seg, 11 de fev de 2019 às 16:10, Michael Karanicolas <
>>> mkaranicolas at gmail.com> escreveu:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Is Thato eligible for re-appointment? If so, I would recommend changing
>>>> the first sentence from "NCUC needs to appoint a Constituency
>>>> representative to the NCSG Finance Committee" to "NCUC would like to
>>>> invite applications for Constituency representative to the NCSG
>>>> Finance Committee for the coming year".
>>>>
>>>> Other than that - looks great.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Michael
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 2:00 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos <
>>>> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Below follows the draft call for FC representative. As soon as you
>>>>> approve I will send it to the list.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear members,
>>>>>
>>>>> NCUC needs to appoint a Constituency representative to the NCSG
>>>>> Finance Committee. The terms for FC representatives are of one year and the
>>>>> time has come for NCUC to appoint its representative.  Therefore, this
>>>>> present call is open for applications until 25 February and the EC
>>>>> will deliberate on the appointee with advice from NCSG Chair until 28
>>>>> February.
>>>>>
>>>>> As per NCUC Operating Procedures [1], this selection process can
>>>>> choose a candidate with the following characteristics:
>>>>>
>>>>> a. Has a depth of expertise in financial management, forensic
>>>>> accounting, and/or budgeting.
>>>>>
>>>>> b. Candidates should also highlight their practical understanding of
>>>>> financial accounts, risk management, and understanding of auditing
>>>>> processes, as well as any experience with grant seeking and/or fundraising.
>>>>>
>>>>> Additional general requirements
>>>>>
>>>>> - The candidate must submit an updated Statement of Interest (SoI).
>>>>>
>>>>> - It is desirable for the candidate to have participated in public
>>>>> comment efforts, and be an active member in one or more Working Groups (WG)
>>>>> within ICANN or generally been contributing by being involved with outreach
>>>>> and NCUC events.
>>>>>
>>>>> About the Finance Committee
>>>>> <https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Committees-2018>
>>>>>
>>>>> The Finance Commmitee at NCSG is formed by one NCUC and one NPOC
>>>>>
>>>>> representative. The current NPOC representative is Remmy Nweke. And
>>>>> the current NCUC representative is Thato Mfikwe.  NCUC can also add
>>>>> observers to this committee.
>>>>>
>>>>> Send your application and SOI to chair at ncuc.org and copy
>>>>> maryam.bakoshi at icann.org
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] NCUC Operating Procedures
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.ncuc.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/NCUC-
>>>>> Operating-Procedures-Sept-2017.pdf
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Em seg, 11 de fev de 2019 às 15:49, Bruna Martins dos Santos <
>>>>> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> escreveu:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for the prompt response on this. Just FYI, the FC has accepted
>>>>>> both NCSG and NCUC chairs suggestion to withdraw the submitted ABRs.  At
>>>>>> the time Stephanie informed us about the submission at the FC mailing list
>>>>>> this was our first recommendation to the matter.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> About inviting Thato to our meeting, I am not sure about the
>>>>>> invitation, @hfaiedh ines <hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com> . I personally
>>>>>> think it is serious enough that he felt like submitting the requests
>>>>>> without any consultation or notice, and if you guys take a look at them,
>>>>>> even the ones that aimed at simple activities like outreach were focused on
>>>>>> the FC activity. The FC is responsible for activities such as fundraising
>>>>>> and setting a plan for that. But so far the only thing I have seen from
>>>>>> them is the complaint that they dont get any travel slots, and IMHO this is
>>>>>> a rather egoistic way of acting. Other than that, I do believe that if this
>>>>>> situation is ever unveiled to the rest of the constituency, we would
>>>>>> receive requests for removing Thato from office immediately.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I will work on a call for FC representative today and share on this
>>>>>> list later as I am planning to launch the call this week, does anyone
>>>>>> oppose that?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> best,
>>>>>> bruna
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Em seg, 11 de fev de 2019 às 11:47, Louise Marie Hurel <
>>>>>> louise.marie.hsd at gmail.com> escreveu:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also agree with both with the Chair and Ines' suggestions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Louise Marie Hurel*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cybersecurity and Digital Liberties Programme | Igarapé Institute
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Media and Communications (Data and Society) | London School of
>>>>>>> Economics and Political Science (LSE)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Publications
>>>>>>> <https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Louise_Marie_Hurel/publications>
>>>>>>> Skype: louise.dias
>>>>>>> +44 (0) 7468 906327
>>>>>>> *l.h.dias at lse.ac.uk <l.h.dias at lse.ac.uk> *
>>>>>>> louise.marie.hsd at gmail.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 at 13:40, Antonella Perini <
>>>>>>> antomperini at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I totally agree that it is a serious issue.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Besides the points raised by Bruna, I find Ines's observations very
>>>>>>>> accurate as well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Antonella
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 at 10:23, Michael Karanicolas <
>>>>>>>> mkaranicolas at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I agree with this path forward.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 11:06 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos <
>>>>>>>>> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dear EC,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It came to my attention that the finance committee submitted 3
>>>>>>>>>> ABRs
>>>>>>>>>> <https://community.icann.org/display/projfinadhocws/NCSG+-+FY20+Additional+Budget+Requests>
>>>>>>>>>> on behalf of NCSG without notifying the Stakeholder group or its Chair. The
>>>>>>>>>> requests submitted were the following:
>>>>>>>>>> (a) Travel support for regional and global IG and DNS related
>>>>>>>>>> events and conferences
>>>>>>>>>> (b) NCSG Membership Portal Support and Development (CIVI CRM).
>>>>>>>>>> (c) Mainstreaming NCSG-FC into ICANN.org processes
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I happen to consider the situation very serious because such
>>>>>>>>>> requests were submitted without community consultation and also due to the
>>>>>>>>>> fact that, unlike any other NCSG Committee, the FC decided to submit ABRs
>>>>>>>>>> on their own. Other than that, the ABRs are unfinished and do not reflect
>>>>>>>>>> good on NCSG and its constituencies. So far, Stephanie has requested the FC
>>>>>>>>>> to withdraw such requests and gave them the deadline of tomorrow COB.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Our representative at the Finance Committee is Thato Mfikwe,
>>>>>>>>>> whose mandate has just expired as we conducted him to the FC in feb 8th,
>>>>>>>>>> 2019. Having said that, I believe we should open a call for NCUC FC
>>>>>>>>>> representative ASAP and I would also advise NCUC not to re-appoint Thato to
>>>>>>>>>> the post as this incident was a huge breach of confidence.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>>>>>>>>>> @boomartins
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>>>>>> --
>>>>>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>>>>>> @boomartins
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>>>>>
>>>>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>>>>> @boomartins
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>>> --
>>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>>>
>>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>>> @boomartins
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>>
>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>> @boomartins
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