[NCUC-EC] Finance Committee - NCUC appointment.

Tue Feb 12 21:44:36 CET 2019

Hi Bruna,

I would change " the EC will deliberate on the appointee with advice from
NCSG Chair until 28 February" to "the EC will deliberate with the advice of
the NCSG Chair until *28 February*"

Also "As per NCUC Operating Procedures [1], this selection process can
choose a candidate with the following characteristics:" to "In accordance
with our NCUC Operating Procedures [1], the selection process will take
into account the *following characteristics:*"

Aside from these two points, we're good to go.

All the best,

*Louise Marie Hurel*

Cybersecurity and Digital Liberties Programme | Igarapé Institute

Media and Communications (Data and Society) | London School of Economics
and Political Science (LSE)

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On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 at 17:09, Bruna Martins dos Santos <
bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:

> Guys,
>
> Any other thoughts on this ?
>
> best,
> B.
>
> Em seg, 11 de fev de 2019 às 16:18, Bruna Martins dos Santos <
> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> escreveu:
>
>> I think that the situation might have called for us to remove him from
>> office, but technically he still is. I will change the wording, thanks
>> Michael.
>>
>> Em seg, 11 de fev de 2019 às 16:10, Michael Karanicolas <
>> mkaranicolas at gmail.com> escreveu:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Is Thato eligible for re-appointment? If so, I would recommend changing
>>> the first sentence from "NCUC needs to appoint a Constituency
>>> representative to the NCSG Finance Committee" to "NCUC would like to
>>> invite applications for Constituency representative to the NCSG Finance
>>> Committee for the coming year".
>>>
>>> Other than that - looks great.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 2:00 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos <
>>> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Below follows the draft call for FC representative. As soon as you
>>>> approve I will send it to the list.
>>>>
>>>> Dear members,
>>>>
>>>> NCUC needs to appoint a Constituency representative to the NCSG Finance
>>>> Committee. The terms for FC representatives are of one year and the time
>>>> has come for NCUC to appoint its representative.  Therefore, this
>>>> present call is open for applications until 25 February and the EC
>>>> will deliberate on the appointee with advice from NCSG Chair until 28
>>>> February.
>>>>
>>>> As per NCUC Operating Procedures [1], this selection process can choose
>>>> a candidate with the following characteristics:
>>>>
>>>> a. Has a depth of expertise in financial management, forensic
>>>> accounting, and/or budgeting.
>>>>
>>>> b. Candidates should also highlight their practical understanding of
>>>> financial accounts, risk management, and understanding of auditing
>>>> processes, as well as any experience with grant seeking and/or fundraising.
>>>>
>>>> Additional general requirements
>>>>
>>>> - The candidate must submit an updated Statement of Interest (SoI).
>>>>
>>>> - It is desirable for the candidate to have participated in public
>>>> comment efforts, and be an active member in one or more Working Groups (WG)
>>>> within ICANN or generally been contributing by being involved with outreach
>>>> and NCUC events.
>>>>
>>>> About the Finance Committee
>>>> <https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Committees-2018>
>>>>
>>>> The Finance Commmitee at NCSG is formed by one NCUC and one NPOC
>>>>
>>>> representative. The current NPOC representative is Remmy Nweke. And the
>>>> current NCUC representative is Thato Mfikwe.  NCUC can also add observers
>>>> to this committee.
>>>>
>>>> Send your application and SOI to chair at ncuc.org and copy
>>>> maryam.bakoshi at icann.org
>>>>
>>>> [1] NCUC Operating Procedures
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.ncuc.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/NCUC-Operating-Procedures-Sept-2017.pdf
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Em seg, 11 de fev de 2019 às 15:49, Bruna Martins dos Santos <
>>>> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> escreveu:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the prompt response on this. Just FYI, the FC has accepted
>>>>> both NCSG and NCUC chairs suggestion to withdraw the submitted ABRs.  At
>>>>> the time Stephanie informed us about the submission at the FC mailing list
>>>>> this was our first recommendation to the matter.
>>>>>
>>>>> About inviting Thato to our meeting, I am not sure about the
>>>>> invitation, @hfaiedh ines <hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com> . I personally
>>>>> think it is serious enough that he felt like submitting the requests
>>>>> without any consultation or notice, and if you guys take a look at them,
>>>>> even the ones that aimed at simple activities like outreach were focused on
>>>>> the FC activity. The FC is responsible for activities such as fundraising
>>>>> and setting a plan for that. But so far the only thing I have seen from
>>>>> them is the complaint that they dont get any travel slots, and IMHO this is
>>>>> a rather egoistic way of acting. Other than that, I do believe that if this
>>>>> situation is ever unveiled to the rest of the constituency, we would
>>>>> receive requests for removing Thato from office immediately.
>>>>>
>>>>> I will work on a call for FC representative today and share on this
>>>>> list later as I am planning to launch the call this week, does anyone
>>>>> oppose that?
>>>>>
>>>>> best,
>>>>> bruna
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Em seg, 11 de fev de 2019 às 11:47, Louise Marie Hurel <
>>>>> louise.marie.hsd at gmail.com> escreveu:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Also agree with both with the Chair and Ines' suggestions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Louise Marie Hurel*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cybersecurity and Digital Liberties Programme | Igarapé Institute
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Media and Communications (Data and Society) | London School of
>>>>>> Economics and Political Science (LSE)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Publications
>>>>>> <https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Louise_Marie_Hurel/publications>
>>>>>> Skype: louise.dias
>>>>>> +44 (0) 7468 906327
>>>>>> *l.h.dias at lse.ac.uk <l.h.dias at lse.ac.uk> *
>>>>>> louise.marie.hsd at gmail.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 at 13:40, Antonella Perini <antomperini at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I totally agree that it is a serious issue.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Besides the points raised by Bruna, I find Ines's observations very
>>>>>>> accurate as well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Antonella
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 at 10:23, Michael Karanicolas <
>>>>>>> mkaranicolas at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I agree with this path forward.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 11:06 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos <
>>>>>>>> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dear EC,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It came to my attention that the finance committee submitted 3
>>>>>>>>> ABRs
>>>>>>>>> <https://community.icann.org/display/projfinadhocws/NCSG+-+FY20+Additional+Budget+Requests>
>>>>>>>>> on behalf of NCSG without notifying the Stakeholder group or its Chair. The
>>>>>>>>> requests submitted were the following:
>>>>>>>>> (a) Travel support for regional and global IG and DNS related
>>>>>>>>> events and conferences
>>>>>>>>> (b) NCSG Membership Portal Support and Development (CIVI CRM).
>>>>>>>>> (c) Mainstreaming NCSG-FC into ICANN.org processes
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I happen to consider the situation very serious because such
>>>>>>>>> requests were submitted without community consultation and also due to the
>>>>>>>>> fact that, unlike any other NCSG Committee, the FC decided to submit ABRs
>>>>>>>>> on their own. Other than that, the ABRs are unfinished and do not reflect
>>>>>>>>> good on NCSG and its constituencies. So far, Stephanie has requested the FC
>>>>>>>>> to withdraw such requests and gave them the deadline of tomorrow COB.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Our representative at the Finance Committee is Thato Mfikwe, whose
>>>>>>>>> mandate has just expired as we conducted him to the FC in feb 8th, 2019.
>>>>>>>>> Having said that, I believe we should open a call for NCUC FC
>>>>>>>>> representative ASAP and I would also advise NCUC not to re-appoint Thato to
>>>>>>>>> the post as this incident was a huge breach of confidence.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>>>>>>>>> @boomartins
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>>>>> --
>>>>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>>>>>
>>>>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>>>>> @boomartins
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>>>>
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>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>>
>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>> @boomartins
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> --
> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>
> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
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