[NCUC-EC] Elections
farzaneh badii
farzaneh.badii at gmail.com
Tue Jul 10 15:44:45 CEST 2018
Hi Bruna
If I am not mistaken and Maryam can correct me, we did the transition
immediately because I became NCSG chair and it was not advisable to be in
two positions.
Farzaneh
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> 1. Re: [Ext] Re: GNSO NCSG NCUC Election timelines
> (Bruna Martins dos Santos)
> 2. Re: GNSO NCSG NCUC Election timelines (hfaiedh ines)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2018 22:08:57 -0300
> From: Bruna Martins dos Santos <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>
> To: Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com>
> Cc: Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>, "Exec. Comm"
> <ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org>
> Subject: Re: [NCUC-EC] [Ext] Re: GNSO NCSG NCUC Election timelines
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> Our handover was exactly after the Abu Dhabi meeting, and we had idk one
> month transition ? Also, did we solve the overlap with the NCSG elections
> that Farzi warned us about ?
>
> Els, I think Renata was maybe alerting us for the case that there's no
> candidate for one of the EC vacancies, in case one of us decides not to run
> for re-election. Was it ?
>
> Best,
> B.
>
> 2018-07-09 22:02 GMT-03:00 Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com>:
>
> > Hey Renata,
> >
> > I think we had informally discussed in Panama that it’s best we handover
> > completely as soon as the meeting in Barcelona is over. Accordingly I
> would
> > suggest that when elections happen, a proper month or two months handover
> > take place by the Barcelona meeting, which would be when the newly
> elected
> > EC’s term could start!
> >
> > As for candidates, I might have misunderstood, but did you mean that
> there
> > might not be any?
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Elsa
> > —
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 3:50 PM Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I think end of term date is announcement of the results of the election.
> >>
> >> However transition can be until after agm, as mentioned previously.
> >>
> >> I would not, however, set an end date as there may be the long chance we
> >> have no applicants for an EC seat so then the EC can decide on
> procedure.
> >>
> >> But up to you
> >>
> >> Em seg, 9 de jul de 2018 16:21, Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com> escreveu:
> >>
> >>> Thanks Renata, I checked it and was thinking if there might be a need
> >>> for us to clarify somewhere thag the current EC will be finishing their
> >>> term after Barcelona? Maybe even mention said date?
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>>
> >>> Elsa
> >>> —
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 11:13 AM Renata Aquino Ribeiro <
> raquino at gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi all
> >>>>
> >>>> So here is the announcement to be sent on 1 Aug
> >>>>
> >>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/14JwAsCfoPhNj1W_
> >>>> hpAxOsQZhRVthlo662ehM5gLUsWU/edit?usp=sharing
> >>>>
> >>>> Please comment until 15 July
> >>>>
> >>>> Best,
> >>>>
> >>>> Renata
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 10:05 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro
> >>>> <raquino at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> > Hi Farzaneh
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I asked Maryam for the corresponding timelines exactly because
> members
> >>>> > were asking me and I was confused.
> >>>> > So I asked Maryam to send them to the EC so we can design the
> >>>> > announcement for NCUC elections.
> >>>> > You are quite right, though, we will focus on announcement of NCUC
> >>>> > elections only and announce after NCSG elections.
> >>>> > However, having in advance the timelines helps us understand better
> >>>> > and prepare what we are going to announce.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > As soon as I have the announcement will share w EC
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 12:08 PM, farzaneh badii
> >>>> > <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> >> Are we talking about the elections or the transition? Transition
> >>>> doesn't
> >>>> >> have to take place right after the elections. And it should not. So
> >>>> the
> >>>> >> current EC will carry out its tasks in Barcelona and then do the
> >>>> transition
> >>>> >> after that.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> I don't know why EC is discussing the NCUC elections now. NCSG
> >>>> elections
> >>>> >> are going to start soon and Maryam is also doing npoc elections and
> >>>> >> preparing for NCSG elections. By discussing ncuc elections now we
> >>>> will
> >>>> >> overburden Maryam. The timeline doesn't look bad to me but looks
> >>>> like for 4
> >>>> >> days it will be in parallel to NCSG elections. Might this confuse
> the
> >>>> >> members?
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> I also saw that in the list of elections Renata mentions the
> >>>> councilors.
> >>>> >> councilors get elected at NCSG level. I don't recommend having that
> >>>> in your
> >>>> >> announcement because I will announce it to NCSG and it might
> confuse
> >>>> people
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 10:16 AM Bruna Martins dos Santos
> >>>> >> <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> Its not necessarily a problem, I was just trying to understand the
> >>>> >>> difference between the timelines.
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> Cheers,
> >>>> >>> B.
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> Em qua, 4 de jul de 2018 11:09, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <
> >>>> raquino at gmail.com>
> >>>> >>> escreveu:
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> Hi Farzaneh
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> Can you please add anything to Maryam`s response to Bruna`s
> >>>> question
> >>>> >>>> below?
> >>>> >>>> Current EC terms finish 1 month earlier than 12 months?
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> Thank you
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 5:43 AM, Maryam Bakoshi <
> >>>> maryam.bakoshi at icann.org>
> >>>> >>>> wrote:
> >>>> >>>> > Hi Renata, All,
> >>>> >>>> >
> >>>> >>>> > Generally, it falls just before the AGM. If I recall correctly,
> >>>> last
> >>>> >>>> > years
> >>>> >>>> > came a little later because of the transition of the NCUC Chair
> >>>> to
> >>>> >>>> > NCSG.
> >>>> >>>> >
> >>>> >>>> > The results of the election for this year would be less than 2
> >>>> weeks
> >>>> >>>> > (11
> >>>> >>>> > days to be precise) to the AGM.
> >>>> >>>> >
> >>>> >>>> > Farzaneh cc,d might be able to throw my light.
> >>>> >>>> >
> >>>> >>>> > —
> >>>> >>>> > Many thanks,
> >>>> >>>> >
> >>>> >>>> >
> >>>> >>>> > Maryam Bakoshi | SO/AC Collaboration Services Sr. Coordinator
> >>>> >>>> > ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers
> >>>> >>>> > S: Maryam.bakoshi.icann | T: +44 7846 471777
> >>>> >>>> >
> >>>> >>>> > On 4 Jul 2018, at 04:09, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <
> >>>> raquino at gmail.com>
> >>>> >>>> > wrote:
> >>>> >>>> >
> >>>> >>>> > Good question
> >>>> >>>> > I'm asking Maryam to help us
> >>>> >>>> >
> >>>> >>>> > Em ter, 3 de jul de 2018 23:47, Bruna Martins dos Santos
> >>>> >>>> > <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> escreveu:
> >>>> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>>> >> Hey, Renata,
> >>>> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>>> >> Quick doubt: according to this calendar, we are not completing
> >>>> our one
> >>>> >>>> >> year term; EC last year was announced in early november -
> >>>> around nov
> >>>> >>>> >> 6th -,
> >>>> >>>> >> right after the Abu Dhabi meeting. Is it supposed to be like
> >>>> this ? Or
> >>>> >>>> >> was
> >>>> >>>> >> it the case that last year's calendar ended up being delayed ?
> >>>> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>>> >> Best,
> >>>> >>>> >> Bruna
> >>>> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>>> >> 2018-07-03 22:52 GMT-03:00 Renata Aquino Ribeiro <
> >>>> raquino at gmail.com>:
> >>>> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>>> >>> Hello
> >>>> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>>> >>> Please see below a table with the corresponding timelines
> >>>> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>>> >>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/
> >>>> 11SlV5Nu4Kcy3Z829kVPUuXjingluiBgaoxewxhpEE_4/edit?usp=sharing
> >>>> >>>> >>> [docs.google.com]
> >>>> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>>> >>> Soon we`ll have to prepare to act on these procedures
> >>>> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>>> >>> NCSG EC is still discussing their timeline so NCSG Chair
> >>>> announcement
> >>>> >>>> >>> should come soon
> >>>> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>>> >>> Best,
> >>>> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>>> >>> Renata
> >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> >>>> >>> NCUC-EC mailing list
> >>>> >>>> >>> NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
> >>>> >>>> >>> https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec
> >>>> >>>> >>> [lists.ncuc.org]
> >>>> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>>> >> --
> >>>> >>>> >> Bruna Martins dos Santos
> >>>> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>>> >> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
> >>>> >>>> >> @boomartins
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> --
> >>>> >> Farzaneh
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> NCUC-EC mailing list
> >>>> NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
> >>>> https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec
> >>>>
> >>> --
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> Elsa Saade
> >>> Consultant
> >>> Gulf Centre for Human Rights
> >>> Twitter: @Elsa_Saade
> >>>
> >> --
> > --
> >
> > Elsa Saade
> > Consultant
> > Gulf Centre for Human Rights
> > Twitter: @Elsa_Saade
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > NCUC-EC mailing list
> > NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
> > https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>
> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
> @boomartins
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> From: hfaiedh ines <hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com>
> To: Bruna Martins dos Santos <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>
> Cc: Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com>, "Exec. Comm"
> <ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org>
> Subject: Re: [NCUC-EC] GNSO NCSG NCUC Election timelines
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> Hi all
>
> Last year, election results were out one or two days after the meeting. The
> year before, the results were maybe one or two weeks after the meeting was
> over so I would agree with my colleagues that there s an issue with the
> timeline.
>
> First, at the beginning of the process there s an overlap with the NCSG
> elections dates.
>
> Second, I agree that there should be a proper hand-over to the next
> leadership team and I can't see that possible if current team is planning
> for the meeting, travelling and then attending while supposedly
> handing-over.
>
> My suggestion is that check-in starts around one month before the meeting
> (26 September-3 October) and results are out around (28 October-3
> November). In my suggested dates I am also taking into consideration staff
> who should have enough time to breathe from an election to a second and
> then to do their duties at-ease at the meeting.
>
>
>
>
> Le mardi 10 juillet 2018, Bruna Martins dos Santos <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>
> a écrit :
> > Our handover was exactly after the Abu Dhabi meeting, and we had idk one
> month transition ? Also, did we solve the overlap with the NCSG elections
> that Farzi warned us about ?
> > Els, I think Renata was maybe alerting us for the case that there's no
> candidate for one of the EC vacancies, in case one of us decides not to run
> for re-election. Was it ?
> >
> > Best,
> > B.
> > 2018-07-09 22:02 GMT-03:00 Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com>:
> >>
> >> Hey Renata,
> >> I think we had informally discussed in Panama that it’s best we handover
> completely as soon as the meeting in Barcelona is over. Accordingly I would
> suggest that when elections happen, a proper month or two months handover
> take place by the Barcelona meeting, which would be when the newly elected
> EC’s term could start!
> >> As for candidates, I might have misunderstood, but did you mean that
> there might not be any?
> >> Best,
> >> Elsa
> >> —
> >> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 3:50 PM Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com
> >
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I think end of term date is announcement of the results of the
> election.
> >>> However transition can be until after agm, as mentioned previously.
> >>> I would not, however, set an end date as there may be the long chance
> we have no applicants for an EC seat so then the EC can decide on
> procedure.
> >>> But up to you
> >>> Em seg, 9 de jul de 2018 16:21, Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com>
> escreveu:
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks Renata, I checked it and was thinking if there might be a need
> for us to clarify somewhere thag the current EC will be finishing their
> term after Barcelona? Maybe even mention said date?
> >>>> Best,
> >>>> Elsa
> >>>> —
> >>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 11:13 AM Renata Aquino Ribeiro <
> raquino at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi all
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So here is the announcement to be sent on 1 Aug
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/14JwAsCfoPhNj1W_hpAxOsQZhRVthlo662ehM5gLUsWU/edit?usp=sharing
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Please comment until 15 July
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Best,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Renata
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 10:05 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro
> >>>>> <raquino at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> > Hi Farzaneh
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > I asked Maryam for the corresponding timelines exactly because
> members
> >>>>> > were asking me and I was confused.
> >>>>> > So I asked Maryam to send them to the EC so we can design the
> >>>>> > announcement for NCUC elections.
> >>>>> > You are quite right, though, we will focus on announcement of NCUC
> >>>>> > elections only and announce after NCSG elections.
> >>>>> > However, having in advance the timelines helps us understand better
> >>>>> > and prepare what we are going to announce.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > As soon as I have the announcement will share w EC
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 12:08 PM, farzaneh badii
> >>>>> > <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> >> Are we talking about the elections or the transition? Transition
> doesn't
> >>>>> >> have to take place right after the elections. And it should not.
> So the
> >>>>> >> current EC will carry out its tasks in Barcelona and then do the
> transition
> >>>>> >> after that.
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >> I don't know why EC is discussing the NCUC elections now. NCSG
> elections
> >>>>> >> are going to start soon and Maryam is also doing npoc elections
> and
> >>>>> >> preparing for NCSG elections. By discussing ncuc elections now we
> will
> >>>>> >> overburden Maryam. The timeline doesn't look bad to me but looks
> like for 4
> >>>>> >> days it will be in parallel to NCSG elections. Might this confuse
> the
> >>>>> >> members?
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >> I also saw that in the list of elections Renata mentions the
> councilors.
> >>>>> >> councilors get elected at NCSG level. I don't recommend having
> that in your
> >>>>> >> announcement because I will announce it to NCSG and it might
> confuse people
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >> On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 10:16 AM Bruna Martins dos Santos
> >>>>> >> <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>> Its not necessarily a problem, I was just trying to understand
> the
> >>>>> >>> difference between the timelines.
> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>> Cheers,
> >>>>> >>> B.
> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>> Em qua, 4 de jul de 2018 11:09, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <
> raquino at gmail.com>
> >>>>> >>> escreveu:
> >>>>> >>>>
> >>>>> >>>> Hi Farzaneh
> >>>>> >>>>
> >>>>> >>>> Can you please add anything to Maryam`s response to Bruna`s
> question
> >>>>> >>>> below?
> >>>>> >>>> Current EC terms finish 1 month earlier than 12 months?
> >>>>> >>>>
> >>>>> >>>> Thank you
> >>>>> >>>>
> >>>>> >>>>
> >>>>> >>>>
> >>>>> >>>> On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 5:43 AM, Maryam Bakoshi <
> maryam.bakoshi at icann.org>
> >>>>> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>> >>>> > Hi Renata, All,
> >>>>> >>>> >
> >>>>> >>>> > Generally, it falls just before the AGM. If I recall
> correctly, last
> >>>>> >>>> > years
> >>>>> >>>> > came a little later because of the transition of the NCUC
> Chair to
> >>>>> >>>> > NCSG.
> >>>>> >>>> >
> >>>>> >>>> > The results of the election for this year would be less than 2
> weeks
> >>>>> >>>> > (11
> >>>>> >>>> > days to be precise) to the AGM.
> >>>>> >>>> >
> >>>>> >>>> > Farzaneh cc,d might be able to throw my light.
> >>>>> >>>> >
> >>>>> >>>> > —
> >>>>> >>>> > Many thanks,
> >>>>> >>>> >
> >>>>> >>>> >
> >>>>> >>>> > Maryam Bakoshi | SO/AC Collaboration Services Sr. Coordinator
> >>>>> >>>> > ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers
> >>>>> >>>> > S: Maryam.bakoshi.icann | T: +44 7846 471777
> >>>>> >>>> >
> >>>>> >>>> > On 4 Jul 2018, at 04:09, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <
> raquino at gmail.com>
> >>>>> >>>> > wrote:
> >>>>> >>>> >
> >>>>> >>>> > Good question
> >>>>> >>>> > I'm asking Maryam to help us
> >>>>> >>>> >
> >>>>> >>>> > Em ter, 3 de jul de 2018 23:47, Bruna Martins dos Santos
> >>>>> >>>> > <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> escreveu:
> >>>>> >>>> >>
> >>>>> >>>> >> Hey, Renata,
> >>>>> >>>> >>
> >>>>> >>>> >> Quick doubt: according to this calendar, we are not
> completing our one
> >>>>> >>>> >> year term; EC last year was announced in early november -
> around nov
> >>>>> >>>> >> 6th -,
> >>>>> >>>> >> right after the Abu Dhabi meeting. Is it supposed to be like
> this ? Or
> >>>>> >>>> >> was
> >>>>> >>>> >> it the case that last year's calendar ended up being delayed
> ?
> >>>>> >>>> >>
> >>>>> >>>> >> Best,
> >>>>> >>>> >> Bruna
> >>>>> >>>> >>
> >>>>> >>>> >> 2018-07-03 22:52 GMT-03:00 Renata Aquino Ribeiro <
> raquino at gmail.com>:
> >>>>> >>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>>> >>> Hello
> >>>>> >>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>>> >>> Please see below a table with the corresponding timelines
> >>>>> >>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>>> >>>
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/11SlV5Nu4Kcy3Z829kVPUuXjingluiBgaoxewxhpEE_4/edit?usp=sharing
> >>>>> >>>> >>> [docs.google.com]
> >>>>> >>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>>> >>> Soon we`ll have to prepare to act on these procedures
> >>>>> >>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>>> >>> NCSG EC is still discussing their timeline so NCSG Chair
> announcement
> >>>>> >>>> >>> should come soon
> >>>>> >>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>>> >>> Best,
> >>>>> >>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>>> >>> Renata
> >>>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>> >>>> >>> NCUC-EC mailing list
> >>>>> >>>> >>> NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
> >>>>> >>>> >>> https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec
> >>>>> >>>> >>> [lists.ncuc.org]
> >>>>> >>>> >>
> >>>>> >>>> >>
> >>>>> >>>> >>
> >>>>> >>>> >>
> >>>>> >>>> >> --
> >>>>> >>>> >> Bruna Martins dos Santos
> >>>>> >>>> >>
> >>>>> >>>> >> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
> >>>>> >>>> >> @boomartins
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >> --
> >>>>> >> Farzaneh
> >>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>> NCUC-EC mailing list
> >>>>> NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
> >>>>> https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> --
> >>>>
> >>>> Elsa Saade
> >>>> Consultant
> >>>> Gulf Centre for Human Rights
> >>>> Twitter: @Elsa_Saade
> >>
> >> --
> >> --
> >>
> >> Elsa Saade
> >> Consultant
> >> Gulf Centre for Human Rights
> >> Twitter: @Elsa_Saade
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> NCUC-EC mailing list
> >> NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
> >> https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Bruna Martins dos Santos
> > Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
> > @boomartins
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