[NCUC-EC] NCUC Rightscon session possible merger

[Renata Aquino Ribeiro]

Exactly.
Outside of ICANN our stakeholders have 1 importance and 1 point of you.
Inside of ICANN, another.

So yes, let's wait to see what is final and then see about how to
communicate on this session.

On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 4:41 PM, Louise Marie Hurel <
louise.marie.hsd at gmail.com> wrote:

> I don't see much of an awkwardness in having a merge with UNESCO.
> Was going to point to this exact project. Worked with them in part of this
> process, have been following the developments and see lots of synergy.
> Guy Berger actually hosted a session in Abu Dhabi to get ICANN overall
> community to get inputs for their universality indicators. What can be a
> challenge though, is the language between these two orgs with different
> cultures and approaches. But nothing that cannot be fine tuned during prep.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Louise Marie Hurel
>
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>
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> 2018-02-27 14:33 GMT-05:00 Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> Yes, I thought about that publication could spur those ideas as I know
>> some of the interviewed (inc. myself).
>>
>> But on that publication and on other work too, the stakeholders which are
>> present in ICANN are looking through the topic w/ IGF lenses, and that's a
>> big change just to start.
>>
>> I'm still charbroiled in the flames of purgatory for trying to save the
>> WSIS session so these adaptations require us to be extra careful.
>>
>> Finalize talks first and then we think about how to announce this,
>> carefully.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Renata
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 4:25 PM, Michael Karanicolas <
>> mkaranicolas at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hm - not as odd as you'd think. UNESCO may not be a strong
>>> institutional participant, but they have a publication on the subject
>>> they just released:
>>> http://unesdoc.unesco.org/images/0025/002597/259717e.pdf
>>>
>>> It was written by Anri van der Spuy - a former NextGen fellow and
>>> ambassador who's actually an NCUC member, I think.
>>>
>>> To me - I think the challenge is in pushing this away from just a
>>> presentation of their research, which is the focus of their original
>>> proposal, and towards a broader conversation, which is what we want.
>>> We want to see more discussion, to bring in more voices (including
>>> NCUC ones - but also from other stakeholder groups), and less
>>> presentations. Hopefully they'll be amenable - and that allows us to
>>> cleave quite closely with the original proposal.
>>>
>>> Anyway - I just got an email from the UNESCO rep, so we'll see what
>>> they have to say.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 3:11 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro
>>> <raquino at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > Hi
>>> >
>>> > It's indeed awkward the news that we were asked to merge
>>> >
>>> > UNESCO is not really that present at all in ICANN so seems like and odd
>>> > marriage
>>> >
>>> > My advice is that we try to keep as much from the original proposal as
>>> > possible since it was approved by the membership - and make that clear
>>> to
>>> > Rightscon organizers
>>> >
>>> > But I suppose Rightscon organizers deal the table here so at least try
>>> to
>>> > secure a speaking engagement on behalf of NCUC.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks
>>> >
>>> > Renata
>>> >
>>>
>>
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