[NCUC-EC] NCUC Rightscon session possible merger

Renata Aquino Ribeiro raquino at gmail.com
Tue Feb 27 21:20:18 CET 2018


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On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 5:19 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Exactly.
> Outside of ICANN our stakeholders have 1 importance and 1 point of you.
> Inside of ICANN, another.
>
> So yes, let's wait to see what is final and then see about how to
> communicate on this session.
>
> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 4:41 PM, Louise Marie Hurel <
> louise.marie.hsd at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I don't see much of an awkwardness in having a merge with UNESCO.
>> Was going to point to this exact project. Worked with them in part of
>> this process, have been following the developments and see lots of synergy.
>> Guy Berger actually hosted a session in Abu Dhabi to get ICANN overall
>> community to get inputs for their universality indicators. What can be a
>> challenge though, is the language between these two orgs with different
>> cultures and approaches. But nothing that cannot be fine tuned during prep.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Louise Marie Hurel
>>
>> Cybersecurity Project Coordinator | Igarapé Institute
>>
>> London School of Economics (LSE) Media and Communications (Data and
>> Society)
>> Skype: louise.dias
>> +44 (0) 7468 906327 <+44%207468%20906327>
>> *l.h.dias at lse.ac.uk <l.h.dias at lse.ac.uk> *
>> louise.marie.hsd at gmail.com
>>
>>
>> 2018-02-27 14:33 GMT-05:00 Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> Yes, I thought about that publication could spur those ideas as I know
>>> some of the interviewed (inc. myself).
>>>
>>> But on that publication and on other work too, the stakeholders which
>>> are present in ICANN are looking through the topic w/ IGF lenses, and
>>> that's a big change just to start.
>>>
>>> I'm still charbroiled in the flames of purgatory for trying to save the
>>> WSIS session so these adaptations require us to be extra careful.
>>>
>>> Finalize talks first and then we think about how to announce this,
>>> carefully.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Renata
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 4:25 PM, Michael Karanicolas <
>>> mkaranicolas at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hm - not as odd as you'd think. UNESCO may not be a strong
>>>> institutional participant, but they have a publication on the subject
>>>> they just released:
>>>> http://unesdoc.unesco.org/images/0025/002597/259717e.pdf
>>>>
>>>> It was written by Anri van der Spuy - a former NextGen fellow and
>>>> ambassador who's actually an NCUC member, I think.
>>>>
>>>> To me - I think the challenge is in pushing this away from just a
>>>> presentation of their research, which is the focus of their original
>>>> proposal, and towards a broader conversation, which is what we want.
>>>> We want to see more discussion, to bring in more voices (including
>>>> NCUC ones - but also from other stakeholder groups), and less
>>>> presentations. Hopefully they'll be amenable - and that allows us to
>>>> cleave quite closely with the original proposal.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway - I just got an email from the UNESCO rep, so we'll see what
>>>> they have to say.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 3:11 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro
>>>> <raquino at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > Hi
>>>> >
>>>> > It's indeed awkward the news that we were asked to merge
>>>> >
>>>> > UNESCO is not really that present at all in ICANN so seems like and
>>>> odd
>>>> > marriage
>>>> >
>>>> > My advice is that we try to keep as much from the original proposal as
>>>> > possible since it was approved by the membership - and make that
>>>> clear to
>>>> > Rightscon organizers
>>>> >
>>>> > But I suppose Rightscon organizers deal the table here so at least
>>>> try to
>>>> > secure a speaking engagement on behalf of NCUC.
>>>> >
>>>> > Thanks
>>>> >
>>>> > Renata
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>
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