[NCUC-EC] Travel funding allocation - ICANN63

[Bruna Martins dos Santos]

Dear EC,

Thank you all for casting your votes, I will announce the results on the
general lists soon. Did anyone check the statement ?

NCUC funded travelers to the Barcelona Meeting will be Shahul Hameed and
Dina Thomas Covenant


*Shahul Hameed - 5 votes Dina Thomas Covenant  - 2 votes *
Paulo Tavares - 1 vote
Wisdom Donkor - 1 vote
Gustavo Paiva - 1 vote

best,
Bruna

Em sex, 31 de ago de 2018 às 17:27, Bruna Martins dos Santos <
bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> escreveu:

> Dear all,
>
> My vote goes for Gustavo Paiva, he is a fellow brazilian who attended his
> first ICANN meeting this past June in Panama as part of the NextGen
> program, was part of the NCUC buddy Program and helped us with our NCUC
> session during the Brazilian IGF. He has reached out to me repeatedly
> looking out for opportunities of fostering his engagement with NCUC and I
> believe that attending the Barcelona Meeting would be a great opportunity
> for him to get more engaged with the constituency.
>
> best,
> Bruna
>
>
>
> Em sex, 31 de ago de 2018 às 17:18, Louise Marie Hurel <
> louise.marie.hsd at gmail.com> escreveu:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> This is indeed a tough call.
>> As said in my previous email, I think that there is a fine line in
>> deciding whether it is the case of balancing the support between more
>> experienced members and newcomers. I have been able to follow Dina’s
>> development throughout this past year and have attested to her engagement
>> within our stakeholder group. As my initial argument was that I was
>> undecided between Ben or Dina, and knowing that Ben would be ineligible for
>> this slot, my vote goes to Dina.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Louise Marie Hurel
>>
>> Cybersecurity Project Coordinator | Igarapé Institute
>>
>> London School of Economics (LSE) Media and Communications (Data and
>> Society)
>> Skype: louise.dias
>> +44 (0) 7468 906327
>> *l.h.dias at lse.ac.uk <l.h.dias at lse.ac.uk> *
>> louise.marie.hsd at gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 at 19:19, Bruna Martins dos Santos <
>> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey all,
>>>
>>> Thank you very much for your votes, I will just wait for Louise to cast
>>> her vote and consider this tally closed.
>>>
>>> As of now we have the following scenario:
>>>
>>> Shahul Hameed - 5 votes
>>> Dina Thomas - 1 vote
>>> Paulo Tavares - 1 vote
>>> Wisdom Donkor - 1 vote
>>>
>>> best,
>>> B.
>>>
>>> Em sex, 31 de ago de 2018 às 13:40, hfaiedh ines <
>>> hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com> escreveu:
>>>
>>>> Thank you very much Bruna for setting this deadline.
>>>> I would like to echo my colleagues' comments on the strong and
>>>> promising applications we received.
>>>> It was a hard decision in that we try to balance between selecting
>>>> experienced members and sometimes giving a chance to newcomers. I have
>>>> continously noticed that we have some experienced members but who still
>>>> need support to step up to the plate and take part in policy discussions.
>>>> In that frame of mind, I would like to give my vote to Wisdom as I
>>>> believe he would be of added value if mentored and supported by some of our
>>>> Policy Committee colleagues, Wisdom has been developing a lot of local
>>>> projects for his region and contributed in bringing new voices and ideas to
>>>> international platformss but is still in need of a mentor-mentee experience
>>>> which will be exclusively focussed on a policy issue and drafting a policy
>>>> comment.
>>>> The decision was and is always tough and I thank you all for sharing
>>>> your thoughts and I thank you Bruna for giving us a clear deadline.
>>>> The applicants we had have wonderful potentials and I am confident that
>>>> they will all go far and whoever is selected, we will be available to
>>>> assist them prior, during and after the meetng
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Le vendredi 31 août 2018, Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>> > Hi Bruna et al,
>>>> > This has been a hard decision to make, however though I see why
>>>> michael has chosen Dina, I will cast my vote to a member who is new to the
>>>> space but who seems extremely willing to engage based on their application.
>>>> Dina has been able to collect a lot of support from her peers and I’m sure
>>>> her ICANN journey is only going to grow from here with or without our
>>>> support - I wish her all the luck and I’m sure we’ll all be here to support
>>>> her as much as we can.
>>>> > In terms of Ben, I think there was a conclusion drawn that we cannot
>>>> choose him for this travel allocation based on a bylaw stating elligible
>>>> NCUC members are ones who: Did not receive NCUC funding to attend the
>>>> immediately previous ICANN meeting, unless exceptional circumstances
>>>> require their presence at two consecutive meetings.
>>>> > Unfortunately though Ben was unable to be with us at ICANN62, he did
>>>> receive funding to attend in the shape of a reimbursement to the expenses
>>>> he had paid to attend. Thus, we wouldn’t be in line with the bylaws if we
>>>> were to choose Ben, which really is sad, but I’d encourage him to work with
>>>> us on a crop proposal for next time.
>>>> > As for this travel allocation, I’ll personally be supporting someone
>>>> new who apparently already got in touch with Stephanie, for a certain
>>>> project which would definitely get around many potential policy developers
>>>> into our space. I think this could very much be of added value given how
>>>> much our current volunteers are overworked.
>>>> > Id like to cast my vote to Paulo Tavares.
>>>> > Best regards,
>>>> > Elsa
>>>> > —
>>>> > On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 2:12 PM Michael Karanicolas <
>>>> mkaranicolas at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Hi,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Thanks very much for sending this along, Bruna.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I wholeheartedly support this initiative. None of the second
>>>> >> candidates received an outright majority, and since the previous
>>>> >> process was never formally closed, it is appropriate to give the EC a
>>>> >> notification of the cutoff to vote, and to keep the process open
>>>> until
>>>> >> that cutoff. I would encourage my fellow ECs to vote freely and as
>>>> >> they see fit, based on their own personal reading of the different
>>>> >> candidates' strengths and weaknesses.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I will maintain my previous votes, for Shahul and for Dina, for the
>>>> >> reasons I mentioned previously. Dina had a strong application, I
>>>> >> thought, and has been involved in a relatively diverse cross section
>>>> >> of ICANN processes. I think it's good that she has a technical
>>>> >> background - which I think we need more of. She also has the support
>>>> >> of NPOC, which, although not determinative, is another factor
>>>> >> supporting her selection.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Best,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Michael
>>>> >> On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 2:41 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos
>>>> >> <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Dear all,
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > I will be closing this tally tomorrow, 17h00 UTC, so please cast
>>>> your votes as soon as possible.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > best,
>>>> >> > bruna
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Em qui, 30 de ago de 2018 às 10:24, Bruna Martins dos Santos <
>>>> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> escreveu:
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Dear all,
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> We need to re-cast the votes, so far the situation is the
>>>> following:
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Shahul Hameed - 5 votes (whole EC voted)
>>>> >> >> Dina Thomas Covenant - 1 vote
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> The ones of us who have not yet casted a vote need to do so, and
>>>> I would like to inform you that I will abstain from voting unless there's a
>>>> tie - considering that in Renata's absence I'm chairing.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Best,
>>>> >> >> Bruna
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Em qui, 30 de ago de 2018 às 10:01, Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com>
>>>> escreveu:
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>> I think it would only be fair that Dina get the second slot
>>>> since she got one vote vs no votes to Ben by the deadline. We cannot make a
>>>> different decision now. Else this could create more confusion. However, we
>>>> can surely prep our members as of soonest, to develop their CROP proposals
>>>> for the next meeting.
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>> And for any future travel funding allocation, we really need to
>>>> make sure that there is no confusion as to the weighing of NPOC’s
>>>> recommendations before any decision can be made. Else this kind of incident
>>>> will keep on occuring.
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>> Thanks Bruna for taking the initiative!
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>> E.
>>>> >> >>> —
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>> On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 8:58 AM Bruna Martins dos Santos <
>>>> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >> >>>>
>>>> >> >>>> Dear all,
>>>> >> >>>>
>>>> >> >>>> Before sending the statement to the lists, it would be better
>>>> for us to deliberate who gets the second slot. From this thread Shahul got
>>>> the first slot with 5 votes and Dina had one vote.
>>>> >> >>>>
>>>> >> >>>> So I would kindly ask you to deliberate on this matter soon, so
>>>> I can retract the previous information and send the new announcement. Also
>>>> we need to deliberate if we are using the CROP for this meeting.
>>>> >> >>>>
>>>> >> >>>> Best,
>>>> >> >>>> B.
>>>> >> >>>>
>>>> >> >>>> Em qui, 30 de ago de 2018 às 06:07, hfaiedh ines <
>>>> hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com> escreveu:
>>>> >> >>>>>
>>>> >> >>>>> Thank you Bruna for drafting this. Good to be sent to the
>>>> applicants for me too.
>>>> >> >>>>>
>>>> >> >>>>> Le jeudi 30 août 2018, Bruna Martins dos Santos <
>>>> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>> >> >>>>> > I agree it needs to be sent out soon, as well as a statement
>>>> to both NCUC, NCSG and NPOC lists. I have started a draft here:
>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZCANHHPeLlO_ho18eymDql64_HzXNiAgYcM2eAAhtDs/edit
>>>> >> >>>>> > If the rest of the EC agrees on this I will proceed to
>>>> notify both Dina/Thomas and Benjamin tomorrow.
>>>> >> >>>>> > Best,
>>>> >> >>>>> > Bruna
>>>> >> >>>>> > Em qua, 29 de ago de 2018 às 22:26, Michael Karanicolas <
>>>> mkaranicolas at gmail.com> escreveu:
>>>> >> >>>>> >>
>>>> >> >>>>> >> I'm fine with that. Thanks for taking the initiative. I
>>>> would suggest sending it out first thing tomorrow, barring any further
>>>> feedback, given the urgency of the matter.
>>>> >> >>>>> >>
>>>> >> >>>>> >> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 9:16 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos <
>>>> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>
>>>> >> >>>>> >>> Hey all,
>>>> >> >>>>> >>> I changed the draft-email a little bit, lmk what you think!
>>>> >> >>>>> >>> "Hello Thomas and Ben,
>>>> >> >>>>> >>> According to the recent email regarding the travel funding
>>>> allocation, we would ask you guys to hold off for a day in taking any
>>>> financial commitments towards this next meeting.
>>>> >> >>>>> >>> This was a tough call for the NCUC EC to decide given the
>>>> quality of the applicants. And as we were concluding the deliberation there
>>>> was a confusion about the final voting tallies  - reason why there was an
>>>> interpretation that we were allocating the funding to Ben and the CROP to
>>>> Thomas. But given that it would be super unfair with the rest of our
>>>> members to  announce a CROP allocation without an open call previously
>>>> announced, we might have to review the decision of the allocation.
>>>> >> >>>>> >>> On behalf of the NCUC EC I apologize for the confusion and
>>>> promise that this problem will be sorted out soon.
>>>> >> >>>>> >>> best,"
>>>> >> >>>>> >>> Em qua, 29 de ago de 2018 20:51, Michael Karanicolas <
>>>> mkaranicolas at gmail.com> escreveu:
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>> I think that the funding allocation announcement was
>>>> drafted against our bylaws, and needs to be replaced with a proper process.
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>> I suggest we give the EC until COB tomorrow to vote for
>>>> their preferred second candidate, at which point silence will be deemed an
>>>> abstention. On Friday am, we can announce the candidate based on the vote
>>>> tallies at that point. We can then go out with a revised announcement. In
>>>> the meantime, I would suggest that we send out a "holding" email to Dina
>>>> and Ben, explaining the situation.
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>> I'm fine with the statement you made on the other list,
>>>> though I'd potentially substitute the part calling it a tie, to revise as
>>>> follows:
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>> Hello Thomas and Ben,
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>> According to the recent email regarding the travel
>>>> funding allocation, we would ask you both to hold off for a day in taking
>>>> any financial commitments towards this next meeting.
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>> This was a tough call for the NCUC EC to decide given the
>>>> quality of the applicants and as we were concluding the deliberation there
>>>> was a confusion about the final voting tallies and the deliberation being
>>>> supposedly concluded when it wasnt.  Also, based on the fact that we must
>>>> announce a call before a CROP allocation, we might have to review the
>>>> decision of the allocation. Due to these mistakes, we will have to retract
>>>> the funding allocation announcement and you will be notified soon.
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>> On behalf of the NCUC EC I apologize for the confusion
>>>> and promise that we will do whatever possible to sort it out.
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 6:27 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos <
>>>> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>> Dear all,
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>> We should deliberate on whether or not we are retracting
>>>> the funding allocation announcement. Also, we must draft a statement to
>>>> membership explaining the matter.
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>> Lmk what do you think about this.
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>> best,
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>> --
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>> Bruna Martins dos Santos
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>> @boomartins
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>>>> >> >>>>> >
>>>> >> >>>>> >
>>>> >> >>>>> > --
>>>> >> >>>>> > Bruna Martins dos Santos
>>>> >> >>>>> > Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>>>> >> >>>>> > @boomartins
>>>> >> >>>>> >
>>>> >> >>>>
>>>> >> >>>>
>>>> >> >>>>
>>>> >> >>>> --
>>>> >> >>>> Bruna Martins dos Santos
>>>> >> >>>>
>>>> >> >>>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>>>> >> >>>> @boomartins
>>>> >> >>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>> --
>>>> >> >>> --
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>> Elsa Saade
>>>> >> >>> Consultant
>>>> >> >>> Gulf Centre for Human Rights
>>>> >> >>> Twitter: @Elsa_Saade
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> --
>>>> >> >> Bruna Martins dos Santos
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>>>> >> >> @boomartins
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > --
>>>> >> > Bruna Martins dos Santos
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>>>> >> > @boomartins
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>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > --
>>>> >
>>>> > Elsa Saade
>>>> > Consultant
>>>> > Gulf Centre for Human Rights
>>>> > Twitter: @Elsa_Saade _______________________________________________
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>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>>>
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>
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>
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