[NCUC-EC] Travel funding allocation - ICANN63

Fri Aug 31 20:19:25 CEST 2018

Hey all,

Thank you very much for your votes, I will just wait for Louise to cast her
vote and consider this tally closed.

As of now we have the following scenario:

Shahul Hameed - 5 votes
Dina Thomas - 1 vote
Paulo Tavares - 1 vote
Wisdom Donkor - 1 vote

best,
B.

Em sex, 31 de ago de 2018 às 13:40, hfaiedh ines <hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com>
escreveu:

> Thank you very much Bruna for setting this deadline.
> I would like to echo my colleagues' comments on the strong and promising
> applications we received.
> It was a hard decision in that we try to balance between selecting
> experienced members and sometimes giving a chance to newcomers. I have
> continously noticed that we have some experienced members but who still
> need support to step up to the plate and take part in policy discussions.
> In that frame of mind, I would like to give my vote to Wisdom as I believe
> he would be of added value if mentored and supported by some of our Policy
> Committee colleagues, Wisdom has been developing a lot of local projects
> for his region and contributed in bringing new voices and ideas to
> international platformss but is still in need of a mentor-mentee experience
> which will be exclusively focussed on a policy issue and drafting a policy
> comment.
> The decision was and is always tough and I thank you all for sharing your
> thoughts and I thank you Bruna for giving us a clear deadline.
> The applicants we had have wonderful potentials and I am confident that
> they will all go far and whoever is selected, we will be available to
> assist them prior, during and after the meetng
>
>
> Le vendredi 31 août 2018, Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com> a écrit :
> > Hi Bruna et al,
> > This has been a hard decision to make, however though I see why michael
> has chosen Dina, I will cast my vote to a member who is new to the space
> but who seems extremely willing to engage based on their application. Dina
> has been able to collect a lot of support from her peers and I’m sure her
> ICANN journey is only going to grow from here with or without our support -
> I wish her all the luck and I’m sure we’ll all be here to support her as
> much as we can.
> > In terms of Ben, I think there was a conclusion drawn that we cannot
> choose him for this travel allocation based on a bylaw stating elligible
> NCUC members are ones who: Did not receive NCUC funding to attend the
> immediately previous ICANN meeting, unless exceptional circumstances
> require their presence at two consecutive meetings.
> > Unfortunately though Ben was unable to be with us at ICANN62, he did
> receive funding to attend in the shape of a reimbursement to the expenses
> he had paid to attend. Thus, we wouldn’t be in line with the bylaws if we
> were to choose Ben, which really is sad, but I’d encourage him to work with
> us on a crop proposal for next time.
> > As for this travel allocation, I’ll personally be supporting someone new
> who apparently already got in touch with Stephanie, for a certain project
> which would definitely get around many potential policy developers into our
> space. I think this could very much be of added value given how much our
> current volunteers are overworked.
> > Id like to cast my vote to Paulo Tavares.
> > Best regards,
> > Elsa
> > —
> > On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 2:12 PM Michael Karanicolas <
> mkaranicolas at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Thanks very much for sending this along, Bruna.
> >>
> >> I wholeheartedly support this initiative. None of the second
> >> candidates received an outright majority, and since the previous
> >> process was never formally closed, it is appropriate to give the EC a
> >> notification of the cutoff to vote, and to keep the process open until
> >> that cutoff. I would encourage my fellow ECs to vote freely and as
> >> they see fit, based on their own personal reading of the different
> >> candidates' strengths and weaknesses.
> >>
> >> I will maintain my previous votes, for Shahul and for Dina, for the
> >> reasons I mentioned previously. Dina had a strong application, I
> >> thought, and has been involved in a relatively diverse cross section
> >> of ICANN processes. I think it's good that she has a technical
> >> background - which I think we need more of. She also has the support
> >> of NPOC, which, although not determinative, is another factor
> >> supporting her selection.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >>
> >> Michael
> >> On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 2:41 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos
> >> <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Dear all,
> >> >
> >> > I will be closing this tally tomorrow, 17h00 UTC, so please cast your
> votes as soon as possible.
> >> >
> >> > best,
> >> > bruna
> >> >
> >> > Em qui, 30 de ago de 2018 às 10:24, Bruna Martins dos Santos <
> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> escreveu:
> >> >>
> >> >> Dear all,
> >> >>
> >> >> We need to re-cast the votes, so far the situation is the following:
> >> >>
> >> >> Shahul Hameed - 5 votes (whole EC voted)
> >> >> Dina Thomas Covenant - 1 vote
> >> >>
> >> >> The ones of us who have not yet casted a vote need to do so, and I
> would like to inform you that I will abstain from voting unless there's a
> tie - considering that in Renata's absence I'm chairing.
> >> >>
> >> >> Best,
> >> >> Bruna
> >> >>
> >> >> Em qui, 30 de ago de 2018 às 10:01, Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com>
> escreveu:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I think it would only be fair that Dina get the second slot since
> she got one vote vs no votes to Ben by the deadline. We cannot make a
> different decision now. Else this could create more confusion. However, we
> can surely prep our members as of soonest, to develop their CROP proposals
> for the next meeting.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> And for any future travel funding allocation, we really need to
> make sure that there is no confusion as to the weighing of NPOC’s
> recommendations before any decision can be made. Else this kind of incident
> will keep on occuring.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Thanks Bruna for taking the initiative!
> >> >>>
> >> >>> E.
> >> >>> —
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 8:58 AM Bruna Martins dos Santos <
> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Dear all,
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Before sending the statement to the lists, it would be better for
> us to deliberate who gets the second slot. From this thread Shahul got the
> first slot with 5 votes and Dina had one vote.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> So I would kindly ask you to deliberate on this matter soon, so I
> can retract the previous information and send the new announcement. Also we
> need to deliberate if we are using the CROP for this meeting.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Best,
> >> >>>> B.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Em qui, 30 de ago de 2018 às 06:07, hfaiedh ines <
> hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com> escreveu:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Thank you Bruna for drafting this. Good to be sent to the
> applicants for me too.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Le jeudi 30 août 2018, Bruna Martins dos Santos <
> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> a écrit :
> >> >>>>> > I agree it needs to be sent out soon, as well as a statement to
> both NCUC, NCSG and NPOC lists. I have started a draft here:
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZCANHHPeLlO_ho18eymDql64_HzXNiAgYcM2eAAhtDs/edit
> >> >>>>> > If the rest of the EC agrees on this I will proceed to notify
> both Dina/Thomas and Benjamin tomorrow.
> >> >>>>> > Best,
> >> >>>>> > Bruna
> >> >>>>> > Em qua, 29 de ago de 2018 às 22:26, Michael Karanicolas <
> mkaranicolas at gmail.com> escreveu:
> >> >>>>> >>
> >> >>>>> >> I'm fine with that. Thanks for taking the initiative. I would
> suggest sending it out first thing tomorrow, barring any further feedback,
> given the urgency of the matter.
> >> >>>>> >>
> >> >>>>> >> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 9:16 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos <
> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>> >>>
> >> >>>>> >>> Hey all,
> >> >>>>> >>> I changed the draft-email a little bit, lmk what you think!
> >> >>>>> >>> "Hello Thomas and Ben,
> >> >>>>> >>> According to the recent email regarding the travel funding
> allocation, we would ask you guys to hold off for a day in taking any
> financial commitments towards this next meeting.
> >> >>>>> >>> This was a tough call for the NCUC EC to decide given the
> quality of the applicants. And as we were concluding the deliberation there
> was a confusion about the final voting tallies  - reason why there was an
> interpretation that we were allocating the funding to Ben and the CROP to
> Thomas. But given that it would be super unfair with the rest of our
> members to  announce a CROP allocation without an open call previously
> announced, we might have to review the decision of the allocation.
> >> >>>>> >>> On behalf of the NCUC EC I apologize for the confusion and
> promise that this problem will be sorted out soon.
> >> >>>>> >>> best,"
> >> >>>>> >>> Em qua, 29 de ago de 2018 20:51, Michael Karanicolas <
> mkaranicolas at gmail.com> escreveu:
> >> >>>>> >>>>
> >> >>>>> >>>> I think that the funding allocation announcement was drafted
> against our bylaws, and needs to be replaced with a proper process.
> >> >>>>> >>>> I suggest we give the EC until COB tomorrow to vote for
> their preferred second candidate, at which point silence will be deemed an
> abstention. On Friday am, we can announce the candidate based on the vote
> tallies at that point. We can then go out with a revised announcement. In
> the meantime, I would suggest that we send out a "holding" email to Dina
> and Ben, explaining the situation.
> >> >>>>> >>>> I'm fine with the statement you made on the other list,
> though I'd potentially substitute the part calling it a tie, to revise as
> follows:
> >> >>>>> >>>> Hello Thomas and Ben,
> >> >>>>> >>>> According to the recent email regarding the travel funding
> allocation, we would ask you both to hold off for a day in taking any
> financial commitments towards this next meeting.
> >> >>>>> >>>> This was a tough call for the NCUC EC to decide given the
> quality of the applicants and as we were concluding the deliberation there
> was a confusion about the final voting tallies and the deliberation being
> supposedly concluded when it wasnt.  Also, based on the fact that we must
> announce a call before a CROP allocation, we might have to review the
> decision of the allocation. Due to these mistakes, we will have to retract
> the funding allocation announcement and you will be notified soon.
> >> >>>>> >>>> On behalf of the NCUC EC I apologize for the confusion and
> promise that we will do whatever possible to sort it out.
> >> >>>>> >>>> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 6:27 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos <
> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> >>>>> Dear all,
> >> >>>>> >>>>> We should deliberate on whether or not we are retracting
> the funding allocation announcement. Also, we must draft a statement to
> membership explaining the matter.
> >> >>>>> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> >>>>> Lmk what do you think about this.
> >> >>>>> >>>>> best,
> >> >>>>> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> >>>>> --
> >> >>>>> >>>>> Bruna Martins dos Santos
> >> >>>>> >>>>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
> >> >>>>> >>>>> @boomartins
> >> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________
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> >> >>>>> >
> >> >>>>> >
> >> >>>>> > --
> >> >>>>> > Bruna Martins dos Santos
> >> >>>>> > Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
> >> >>>>> > @boomartins
> >> >>>>> >
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> --
> >> >>>> Bruna Martins dos Santos
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
> >> >>>> @boomartins
> >> >>>> _______________________________________________
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> >> >>>
> >> >>> --
> >> >>> --
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Elsa Saade
> >> >>> Consultant
> >> >>> Gulf Centre for Human Rights
> >> >>> Twitter: @Elsa_Saade
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Bruna Martins dos Santos
> >> >>
> >> >> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
> >> >> @boomartins
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Bruna Martins dos Santos
> >> >
> >> > Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
> >> > @boomartins
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> > --
> > --
> >
> > Elsa Saade
> > Consultant
> > Gulf Centre for Human Rights
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