[NCUC-EC] Travel funding allocation - ICANN63

Fri Aug 31 18:40:12 CEST 2018

Thank you very much Bruna for setting this deadline.
I would like to echo my colleagues' comments on the strong and promising
applications we received.
It was a hard decision in that we try to balance between selecting
experienced members and sometimes giving a chance to newcomers. I have
continously noticed that we have some experienced members but who still
need support to step up to the plate and take part in policy discussions.
In that frame of mind, I would like to give my vote to Wisdom as I believe
he would be of added value if mentored and supported by some of our Policy
Committee colleagues, Wisdom has been developing a lot of local projects
for his region and contributed in bringing new voices and ideas to
international platformss but is still in need of a mentor-mentee experience
which will be exclusively focussed on a policy issue and drafting a policy
comment.
The decision was and is always tough and I thank you all for sharing your
thoughts and I thank you Bruna for giving us a clear deadline.
The applicants we had have wonderful potentials and I am confident that
they will all go far and whoever is selected, we will be available to
assist them prior, during and after the meetng

Le vendredi 31 août 2018, Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com> a écrit :
> Hi Bruna et al,
> This has been a hard decision to make, however though I see why michael
has chosen Dina, I will cast my vote to a member who is new to the space
but who seems extremely willing to engage based on their application. Dina
has been able to collect a lot of support from her peers and I’m sure her
ICANN journey is only going to grow from here with or without our support -
I wish her all the luck and I’m sure we’ll all be here to support her as
much as we can.
> In terms of Ben, I think there was a conclusion drawn that we cannot
choose him for this travel allocation based on a bylaw stating elligible
NCUC members are ones who: Did not receive NCUC funding to attend the
immediately previous ICANN meeting, unless exceptional circumstances
require their presence at two consecutive meetings.
> Unfortunately though Ben was unable to be with us at ICANN62, he did
receive funding to attend in the shape of a reimbursement to the expenses
he had paid to attend. Thus, we wouldn’t be in line with the bylaws if we
were to choose Ben, which really is sad, but I’d encourage him to work with
us on a crop proposal for next time.
> As for this travel allocation, I’ll personally be supporting someone new
who apparently already got in touch with Stephanie, for a certain project
which would definitely get around many potential policy developers into our
space. I think this could very much be of added value given how much our
current volunteers are overworked.
> Id like to cast my vote to Paulo Tavares.
> Best regards,
> Elsa
> —
> On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 2:12 PM Michael Karanicolas <
mkaranicolas at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Thanks very much for sending this along, Bruna.
>>
>> I wholeheartedly support this initiative. None of the second
>> candidates received an outright majority, and since the previous
>> process was never formally closed, it is appropriate to give the EC a
>> notification of the cutoff to vote, and to keep the process open until
>> that cutoff. I would encourage my fellow ECs to vote freely and as
>> they see fit, based on their own personal reading of the different
>> candidates' strengths and weaknesses.
>>
>> I will maintain my previous votes, for Shahul and for Dina, for the
>> reasons I mentioned previously. Dina had a strong application, I
>> thought, and has been involved in a relatively diverse cross section
>> of ICANN processes. I think it's good that she has a technical
>> background - which I think we need more of. She also has the support
>> of NPOC, which, although not determinative, is another factor
>> supporting her selection.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Michael
>> On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 2:41 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos
>> <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Dear all,
>> >
>> > I will be closing this tally tomorrow, 17h00 UTC, so please cast your
votes as soon as possible.
>> >
>> > best,
>> > bruna
>> >
>> > Em qui, 30 de ago de 2018 às 10:24, Bruna Martins dos Santos <
bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> escreveu:
>> >>
>> >> Dear all,
>> >>
>> >> We need to re-cast the votes, so far the situation is the following:
>> >>
>> >> Shahul Hameed - 5 votes (whole EC voted)
>> >> Dina Thomas Covenant - 1 vote
>> >>
>> >> The ones of us who have not yet casted a vote need to do so, and I
would like to inform you that I will abstain from voting unless there's a
tie - considering that in Renata's absence I'm chairing.
>> >>
>> >> Best,
>> >> Bruna
>> >>
>> >> Em qui, 30 de ago de 2018 às 10:01, Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com>
escreveu:
>> >>>
>> >>> I think it would only be fair that Dina get the second slot since
she got one vote vs no votes to Ben by the deadline. We cannot make a
different decision now. Else this could create more confusion. However, we
can surely prep our members as of soonest, to develop their CROP proposals
for the next meeting.
>> >>>
>> >>> And for any future travel funding allocation, we really need to make
sure that there is no confusion as to the weighing of NPOC’s
recommendations before any decision can be made. Else this kind of incident
will keep on occuring.
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks Bruna for taking the initiative!
>> >>>
>> >>> E.
>> >>> —
>> >>>
>> >>> On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 8:58 AM Bruna Martins dos Santos <
bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Dear all,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Before sending the statement to the lists, it would be better for
us to deliberate who gets the second slot. From this thread Shahul got the
first slot with 5 votes and Dina had one vote.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> So I would kindly ask you to deliberate on this matter soon, so I
can retract the previous information and send the new announcement. Also we
need to deliberate if we are using the CROP for this meeting.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Best,
>> >>>> B.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Em qui, 30 de ago de 2018 às 06:07, hfaiedh ines <
hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com> escreveu:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Thank you Bruna for drafting this. Good to be sent to the
applicants for me too.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Le jeudi 30 août 2018, Bruna Martins dos Santos <
bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> a écrit :
>> >>>>> > I agree it needs to be sent out soon, as well as a statement to
both NCUC, NCSG and NPOC lists. I have started a draft here:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZCANHHPeLlO_ho18eymDql64_HzXNiAgYcM2eAAhtDs/edit
>> >>>>> > If the rest of the EC agrees on this I will proceed to notify
both Dina/Thomas and Benjamin tomorrow.
>> >>>>> > Best,
>> >>>>> > Bruna
>> >>>>> > Em qua, 29 de ago de 2018 às 22:26, Michael Karanicolas <
mkaranicolas at gmail.com> escreveu:
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >> I'm fine with that. Thanks for taking the initiative. I would
suggest sending it out first thing tomorrow, barring any further feedback,
given the urgency of the matter.
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 9:16 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos <
bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>> >>>
>> >>>>> >>> Hey all,
>> >>>>> >>> I changed the draft-email a little bit, lmk what you think!
>> >>>>> >>> "Hello Thomas and Ben,
>> >>>>> >>> According to the recent email regarding the travel funding
allocation, we would ask you guys to hold off for a day in taking any
financial commitments towards this next meeting.
>> >>>>> >>> This was a tough call for the NCUC EC to decide given the
quality of the applicants. And as we were concluding the deliberation there
was a confusion about the final voting tallies  - reason why there was an
interpretation that we were allocating the funding to Ben and the CROP to
Thomas. But given that it would be super unfair with the rest of our
members to  announce a CROP allocation without an open call previously
announced, we might have to review the decision of the allocation.
>> >>>>> >>> On behalf of the NCUC EC I apologize for the confusion and
promise that this problem will be sorted out soon.
>> >>>>> >>> best,"
>> >>>>> >>> Em qua, 29 de ago de 2018 20:51, Michael Karanicolas <
mkaranicolas at gmail.com> escreveu:
>> >>>>> >>>>
>> >>>>> >>>> I think that the funding allocation announcement was drafted
against our bylaws, and needs to be replaced with a proper process.
>> >>>>> >>>> I suggest we give the EC until COB tomorrow to vote for their
preferred second candidate, at which point silence will be deemed an
abstention. On Friday am, we can announce the candidate based on the vote
tallies at that point. We can then go out with a revised announcement. In
the meantime, I would suggest that we send out a "holding" email to Dina
and Ben, explaining the situation.
>> >>>>> >>>> I'm fine with the statement you made on the other list,
though I'd potentially substitute the part calling it a tie, to revise as
follows:
>> >>>>> >>>> Hello Thomas and Ben,
>> >>>>> >>>> According to the recent email regarding the travel funding
allocation, we would ask you both to hold off for a day in taking any
financial commitments towards this next meeting.
>> >>>>> >>>> This was a tough call for the NCUC EC to decide given the
quality of the applicants and as we were concluding the deliberation there
was a confusion about the final voting tallies and the deliberation being
supposedly concluded when it wasnt.  Also, based on the fact that we must
announce a call before a CROP allocation, we might have to review the
decision of the allocation. Due to these mistakes, we will have to retract
the funding allocation announcement and you will be notified soon.
>> >>>>> >>>> On behalf of the NCUC EC I apologize for the confusion and
promise that we will do whatever possible to sort it out.
>> >>>>> >>>> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 6:27 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos <
bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> >>>>> Dear all,
>> >>>>> >>>>> We should deliberate on whether or not we are retracting the
funding allocation announcement. Also, we must draft a statement to
membership explaining the matter.
>> >>>>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> >>>>> Lmk what do you think about this.
>> >>>>> >>>>> best,
>> >>>>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> >>>>> --
>> >>>>> >>>>> Bruna Martins dos Santos
>> >>>>> >>>>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>> >>>>> >>>>> @boomartins
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>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > --
>> >>>>> > Bruna Martins dos Santos
>> >>>>> > Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>> >>>>> > @boomartins
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> Bruna Martins dos Santos
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>> >>>> @boomartins
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>> >>> Elsa Saade
>> >>> Consultant
>> >>> Gulf Centre for Human Rights
>> >>> Twitter: @Elsa_Saade
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Bruna Martins dos Santos
>> >>
>> >> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>> >> @boomartins
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Bruna Martins dos Santos
>> >
>> > Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
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> Elsa Saade
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> Gulf Centre for Human Rights
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