[NCUC-EC] Travel funding allocation - ICANN63

Thu Aug 30 19:41:30 CEST 2018

Dear all,

I will be closing this tally tomorrow, 17h00 UTC, so please cast your votes
as soon as possible.

best,
bruna

Em qui, 30 de ago de 2018 às 10:24, Bruna Martins dos Santos <
bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> escreveu:

> Dear all,
>
> We need to re-cast the votes, so far the situation is the following:
>
> Shahul Hameed - 5 votes (whole EC voted)
> Dina Thomas Covenant - 1 vote
>
> The ones of us who have not yet casted a vote need to do so, and I would
> like to inform you that I will abstain from voting unless there's a tie -
> considering that in Renata's absence I'm chairing.
>
> Best,
> Bruna
>
> Em qui, 30 de ago de 2018 às 10:01, Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com>
> escreveu:
>
>> I think it would only be fair that Dina get the second slot since she got
>> one vote vs no votes to Ben by the deadline. We cannot make a different
>> decision now. Else this could create more confusion. However, we can surely
>> prep our members as of soonest, to develop their CROP proposals for the
>> next meeting.
>>
>> And for any future travel funding allocation, we really need to make sure
>> that there is no confusion as to the weighing of NPOC’s recommendations
>> before any decision can be made. Else this kind of incident will keep on
>> occuring.
>>
>> Thanks Bruna for taking the initiative!
>>
>> E.
>> —
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 8:58 AM Bruna Martins dos Santos <
>> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> Before sending the statement to the lists, it would be better for us to
>>> deliberate who gets the second slot. From this thread
>>> <https://lists.ncuc.org/pipermail/ncuc-ec/2018-August/009899.html> Shahul
>>> got the first slot with 5 votes and Dina had one vote.
>>>
>>> So I would kindly ask you to deliberate on this matter soon, so I can
>>> retract the previous information and send the new announcement. Also we
>>> need to deliberate if we are using the CROP for this meeting.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> B.
>>>
>>> Em qui, 30 de ago de 2018 às 06:07, hfaiedh ines <
>>> hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com> escreveu:
>>>
>>>> Thank you Bruna for drafting this. Good to be sent to the applicants
>>>> for me too.
>>>>
>>>> Le jeudi 30 août 2018, Bruna Martins dos Santos <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>
>>>> a écrit :
>>>> > I agree it needs to be sent out soon, as well as a statement to both
>>>> NCUC, NCSG and NPOC lists. I have started a draft here:
>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZCANHHPeLlO_ho18eymDql64_HzXNiAgYcM2eAAhtDs/edit
>>>> > If the rest of the EC agrees on this I will proceed to notify both
>>>> Dina/Thomas and Benjamin tomorrow.
>>>> > Best,
>>>> > Bruna
>>>> > Em qua, 29 de ago de 2018 às 22:26, Michael Karanicolas <
>>>> mkaranicolas at gmail.com> escreveu:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I'm fine with that. Thanks for taking the initiative. I would
>>>> suggest sending it out first thing tomorrow, barring any further feedback,
>>>> given the urgency of the matter.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 9:16 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos <
>>>> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Hey all,
>>>> >>> I changed the draft-email a little bit, lmk what you think!
>>>> >>> "Hello Thomas and Ben,
>>>> >>> According to the recent email regarding the travel funding
>>>> allocation, we would ask you guys to hold off for a day in taking any
>>>> financial commitments towards this next meeting.
>>>> >>> This was a tough call for the NCUC EC to decide given the quality
>>>> of the applicants. And as we were concluding the deliberation there was a
>>>> confusion about the final voting tallies  - reason why there was an
>>>> interpretation that we were allocating the funding to Ben and the CROP to
>>>> Thomas. But given that it would be super unfair with the rest of our
>>>> members to  announce a CROP allocation without an open call previously
>>>> announced, we might have to review the decision of the allocation.
>>>> >>> On behalf of the NCUC EC I apologize for the confusion and promise
>>>> that this problem will be sorted out soon.
>>>> >>> best,"
>>>> >>> Em qua, 29 de ago de 2018 20:51, Michael Karanicolas <
>>>> mkaranicolas at gmail.com> escreveu:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> I think that the funding allocation announcement was drafted
>>>> against our bylaws, and needs to be replaced with a proper process.
>>>> >>>> I suggest we give the EC until COB tomorrow to vote for their
>>>> preferred second candidate, at which point silence will be deemed an
>>>> abstention. On Friday am, we can announce the candidate based on the vote
>>>> tallies at that point. We can then go out with a revised announcement. In
>>>> the meantime, I would suggest that we send out a "holding" email to Dina
>>>> and Ben, explaining the situation.
>>>> >>>> I'm fine with the statement you made on the other list, though I'd
>>>> potentially substitute the part calling it a tie, to revise as follows:
>>>> >>>> Hello Thomas and Ben,
>>>> >>>> According to the recent email regarding the travel funding
>>>> allocation, we would ask you both to hold off for a day in taking any
>>>> financial commitments towards this next meeting.
>>>> >>>> This was a tough call for the NCUC EC to decide given the quality
>>>> of the applicants and as we were concluding the deliberation there was a
>>>> confusion about the final voting tallies and the deliberation being
>>>> supposedly concluded when it wasnt.  Also, based on the fact that we must
>>>> announce a call before a CROP allocation, we might have to review the
>>>> decision of the allocation. Due to these mistakes, we will have to retract
>>>> the funding allocation announcement and you will be notified soon.
>>>> >>>> On behalf of the NCUC EC I apologize for the confusion and promise
>>>> that we will do whatever possible to sort it out.
>>>> >>>> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 6:27 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos <
>>>> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> Dear all,
>>>> >>>>> We should deliberate on whether or not we are retracting the
>>>> funding allocation announcement. Also, we must draft a statement to
>>>> membership explaining the matter.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> Lmk what do you think about this.
>>>> >>>>> best,
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> --
>>>> >>>>> Bruna Martins dos Santos
>>>> >>>>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>>>> >>>>> @boomartins
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>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > Bruna Martins dos Santos
>>>> > Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>>>> > @boomartins
>>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>>>
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>>
>> Elsa Saade
>> Consultant
>> Gulf Centre for Human Rights
>> Twitter: @Elsa_Saade
>>
>
>
> --
> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>
> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
> @boomartins
>

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