[NCUC-EC] Travel funding allocation - ICANN63

Thu Aug 30 15:24:37 CEST 2018

Dear all,

We need to re-cast the votes, so far the situation is the following:

Shahul Hameed - 5 votes (whole EC voted)
Dina Thomas Covenant - 1 vote

The ones of us who have not yet casted a vote need to do so, and I would
like to inform you that I will abstain from voting unless there's a tie -
considering that in Renata's absence I'm chairing.

Best,
Bruna

Em qui, 30 de ago de 2018 às 10:01, Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com> escreveu:

> I think it would only be fair that Dina get the second slot since she got
> one vote vs no votes to Ben by the deadline. We cannot make a different
> decision now. Else this could create more confusion. However, we can surely
> prep our members as of soonest, to develop their CROP proposals for the
> next meeting.
>
> And for any future travel funding allocation, we really need to make sure
> that there is no confusion as to the weighing of NPOC’s recommendations
> before any decision can be made. Else this kind of incident will keep on
> occuring.
>
> Thanks Bruna for taking the initiative!
>
> E.
> —
>
> On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 8:58 AM Bruna Martins dos Santos <
> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> Before sending the statement to the lists, it would be better for us to
>> deliberate who gets the second slot. From this thread
>> <https://lists.ncuc.org/pipermail/ncuc-ec/2018-August/009899.html> Shahul
>> got the first slot with 5 votes and Dina had one vote.
>>
>> So I would kindly ask you to deliberate on this matter soon, so I can
>> retract the previous information and send the new announcement. Also we
>> need to deliberate if we are using the CROP for this meeting.
>>
>> Best,
>> B.
>>
>> Em qui, 30 de ago de 2018 às 06:07, hfaiedh ines <hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com>
>> escreveu:
>>
>>> Thank you Bruna for drafting this. Good to be sent to the applicants for
>>> me too.
>>>
>>> Le jeudi 30 août 2018, Bruna Martins dos Santos <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>
>>> a écrit :
>>> > I agree it needs to be sent out soon, as well as a statement to both
>>> NCUC, NCSG and NPOC lists. I have started a draft here:
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZCANHHPeLlO_ho18eymDql64_HzXNiAgYcM2eAAhtDs/edit
>>> > If the rest of the EC agrees on this I will proceed to notify both
>>> Dina/Thomas and Benjamin tomorrow.
>>> > Best,
>>> > Bruna
>>> > Em qua, 29 de ago de 2018 às 22:26, Michael Karanicolas <
>>> mkaranicolas at gmail.com> escreveu:
>>> >>
>>> >> I'm fine with that. Thanks for taking the initiative. I would suggest
>>> sending it out first thing tomorrow, barring any further feedback, given
>>> the urgency of the matter.
>>> >>
>>> >> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 9:16 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos <
>>> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Hey all,
>>> >>> I changed the draft-email a little bit, lmk what you think!
>>> >>> "Hello Thomas and Ben,
>>> >>> According to the recent email regarding the travel funding
>>> allocation, we would ask you guys to hold off for a day in taking any
>>> financial commitments towards this next meeting.
>>> >>> This was a tough call for the NCUC EC to decide given the quality of
>>> the applicants. And as we were concluding the deliberation there was a
>>> confusion about the final voting tallies  - reason why there was an
>>> interpretation that we were allocating the funding to Ben and the CROP to
>>> Thomas. But given that it would be super unfair with the rest of our
>>> members to  announce a CROP allocation without an open call previously
>>> announced, we might have to review the decision of the allocation.
>>> >>> On behalf of the NCUC EC I apologize for the confusion and promise
>>> that this problem will be sorted out soon.
>>> >>> best,"
>>> >>> Em qua, 29 de ago de 2018 20:51, Michael Karanicolas <
>>> mkaranicolas at gmail.com> escreveu:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> I think that the funding allocation announcement was drafted
>>> against our bylaws, and needs to be replaced with a proper process.
>>> >>>> I suggest we give the EC until COB tomorrow to vote for their
>>> preferred second candidate, at which point silence will be deemed an
>>> abstention. On Friday am, we can announce the candidate based on the vote
>>> tallies at that point. We can then go out with a revised announcement. In
>>> the meantime, I would suggest that we send out a "holding" email to Dina
>>> and Ben, explaining the situation.
>>> >>>> I'm fine with the statement you made on the other list, though I'd
>>> potentially substitute the part calling it a tie, to revise as follows:
>>> >>>> Hello Thomas and Ben,
>>> >>>> According to the recent email regarding the travel funding
>>> allocation, we would ask you both to hold off for a day in taking any
>>> financial commitments towards this next meeting.
>>> >>>> This was a tough call for the NCUC EC to decide given the quality
>>> of the applicants and as we were concluding the deliberation there was a
>>> confusion about the final voting tallies and the deliberation being
>>> supposedly concluded when it wasnt.  Also, based on the fact that we must
>>> announce a call before a CROP allocation, we might have to review the
>>> decision of the allocation. Due to these mistakes, we will have to retract
>>> the funding allocation announcement and you will be notified soon.
>>> >>>> On behalf of the NCUC EC I apologize for the confusion and promise
>>> that we will do whatever possible to sort it out.
>>> >>>> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 6:27 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos <
>>> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Dear all,
>>> >>>>> We should deliberate on whether or not we are retracting the
>>> funding allocation announcement. Also, we must draft a statement to
>>> membership explaining the matter.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Lmk what do you think about this.
>>> >>>>> best,
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> --
>>> >>>>> Bruna Martins dos Santos
>>> >>>>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>>> >>>>> @boomartins
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>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Bruna Martins dos Santos
>>> > Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>>> > @boomartins
>>> >
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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