[NCUC-EC] Fwd: [Ext] Re: presenting EC for At-Large outreach planning

Tue Aug 21 18:57:12 CEST 2018

Folks

This is the response from Farzaneh
NCSG wants to continue affirming that NCUC has a continuous source of
funding.
I guess point of view is everything.

So this is up to you. If you want to disimburse 1200USD from NCUC to NCSG
At-Large Outreach, vote on it.
I am against.

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From: farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Ext] Re: presenting EC for At-Large outreach planning
To: Renata Aquino <raquino at gmail.com>

I don't know why it's so difficult to understand a simple concept: you do
have access to resources and it is NCUC money until March 2019. Everyone
knows that but you just insist on not understanding it. If you keep saying
it's not you are acting against NCUC interest. Correct yourself please on
the email.

Farzaneh

On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 12:47 PM Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Olivier
> cc'ing Farzaneh again
>
> Olivier, I am glad you got a response from Adam. All I got was silence.
>
> As for contribution of 1200USD to the event, NCUC does not have any source
> of funding anymore, only NCSG.
>
> So I'm copying NCSG Chair.
>
> Best,
>
> Renata
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 1:13 PM, DANIEL NANGHAKA <dndannang at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I agree with you. Olivier.
>>
>> Adam, I believe when it comes to Outreach and Engagement - the priorities
>> should be re-thought as this is an important component of the
>> Multi-Stakeholder Model. The value that is extended to the building of a
>> participatory team requires a lot of support and funding.
>>
>> The power of volunteers cannot be underestimated especially in the need
>> to keep up the PDPs running. Amidst the financial constraints can something
>> be done to enhance ICANNs contribution to community activities.
>>
>> As the preparations continue probably we should be expectant that a
>> review can be done.
>>
>> Kind Regards
>> Daniel K. Nanghaka
>> ᐧ
>>
>> On Tue, 21 Aug 2018 at 19:07, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Adam,
>>>
>>> thank you for your kind response. I must admit this does *not* fill me
>>> with joy. I have now been operating in ICANN circles for long enough to
>>> note that conditions in which we are to keep this multistakeholder model
>>> running are deteriorating and indeed, deteriorating fast. Volunteers are
>>> being asked to work more and find more volunteers to join the model, yet
>>> ICANN's contribution and support for this is decreasing. You know where
>>> this is leading us.
>>>
>>> I have suggested a set of slots below. Let's see what the Meetings Team
>>> comes up with, please.
>>> Kindest regards,
>>>
>>> Olivier
>>>
>>> On 21/08/2018 17:21, Adam Peake wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Olivier, all;
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Olivier, you are correct, the outreach/townhall proposals were rejected
>>> in the Additional Budget Requests, and while they were noted in the core
>>> budget no money was allocated to the activities, there are no additional
>>> funds for the Barcelona outreach.  GSE Europe has no additional funds for
>>> outreach in the FY19 budget.  My apologies for any misunderstanding.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We are in the process of securing a meeting room able to accommodate
>>> 100+ for consecutive 90-min slots.  This will depend on overall room
>>> availability, but we are discussing with the meetings team.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ICANN will be able to cover basic catering, coffee and snacks or boxed
>>> lunch depending on timing of the sessions.  We are looking into details and
>>> will keep you informed.  Please continue planning for 2 sessions.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Warm regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From: *Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com> <ocl at gih.com>
>>> *Date: *Tuesday, August 21, 2018 16:53
>>> *To: *Bruna Martins dos Santos <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>
>>> <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>, DANIEL NANGHAKA <dndannang at gmail.com>
>>> <dndannang at gmail.com>
>>> *Cc: *"sebicann at bachollet.fr" <sebicann at bachollet.fr>
>>> <sebicann at bachollet.fr> <sebicann at bachollet.fr>, Tatiana Tropina
>>> <tatiana.tropina at gmail.com> <tatiana.tropina at gmail.com>, Elsa S
>>> <elsa.saade at gmail.com> <elsa.saade at gmail.com>, Adam Peake
>>> <adam.peake at icann.org> <adam.peake at icann.org>, Louise Marie Hurel
>>> <louise.marie.hsd at gmail.com> <louise.marie.hsd at gmail.com>, Maryam
>>> Bakoshi <maryam.bakoshi at icann.org> <maryam.bakoshi at icann.org>, Michael
>>> Karanicolas <mkaranicolas at gmail.com> <mkaranicolas at gmail.com>, Renata
>>> <raquino at gmail.com> <raquino at gmail.com>, Farz <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
>>> <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>, Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa at topnet.tn>
>>> <tijani.benjemaa at topnet.tn>, Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>
>>> <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>, Glenn McKnight <mcknight.glenn at gmail.com>
>>> <mcknight.glenn at gmail.com>, Yrjö Länsipuro <yrjo_lansipuro at hotmail.com>
>>> <yrjo_lansipuro at hotmail.com>, Dev Anand Teelucksingh <admin at ttcsweb.org>
>>> <admin at ttcsweb.org>, ICANN At-Large Staff <staff at atlarge.icann.org>
>>> <staff at atlarge.icann.org>
>>> *Subject: *[Ext] Re: presenting EC for At-Large outreach planning
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Renata,
>>>
>>> it has been a month and I am following up on this thread as time is of
>>> the essence.
>>> On the one side we have the format to design and I have read several
>>> interesting proposals.
>>>
>>> Right now I am focussing on the actual time slot.
>>>
>>> - Given that the Additional Budget Request was refused suggested as
>>> Core, this means that we could have some limited funding for a lunch or
>>> cocktail. I have heard figures of At-Large being able to put $1200, with a
>>> hope that GSE could put $1200. Could NCUC also put $1200 on the table?
>>>
>>> - Given that the Barcelona meeting is going to be overloaded with
>>> sessions, with the EPDP etc. all eating up tons of cycles and the meetings
>>> team having decided to scrap the Friday of the week apparently because "the
>>> community asked for a shorter AGM in the latest travel public comment", the
>>> word "struggle" is an understatement when asking for 3 hours or 2 x 1.5
>>> hours.
>>>
>>> We had only two options:
>>> - Day 1 - Saturday 20th October - clashes with the all day EPDP sessions
>>> - Day 2 - Sunday 21st October - clashes with GNSO policy work day, other
>>> PDPs and also ALAC work
>>>
>>> A recent meeting of the At-Large Outreach & Engagement WG was attended
>>> by Siranush Vardanyan and she mentioned that the NextGen and the Fellows
>>> will be busy on day 1 from 8:00am until 3:00pm (15:00) with all of the
>>> "newcomers day" presentations and sessions.
>>> So may I suggest we try for  Day 1, block 4 (15:15-16:45) and block 5
>>> (17:00-18:30)?
>>> This has the advantage that we could ask to keep the room that the
>>> Fellowship & NextGen are using and therefore we'll have a captive audience
>>> to start with, in a room that should be large enough, and then afterwards
>>> we are encouraged to continue with a joint Fellowship/NextGen cocktail?
>>>
>>> Now I know this is going to clash with some of the EPDP stuff, but it's
>>> going to be impossible to find any slot in the week that would be
>>> unconflicted with someone or other.
>>>
>>> Kindest regards,
>>>
>>> Olivier
>>>
>>> On 24/07/2018 17:05, Bruna Martins dos Santos wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey all,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Welcome to the new additions to the thread!
>>>
>>> Once we have agreed on a good and reviewed/new format we could also
>>> consider bringing new themes to the policy part of the outreach, I remember
>>> we had accountability in Panama but with the end of the ccwg maybe we can
>>> bring new issues to the table.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Also, if we manage to find a slot that would allow us to have a cocktail
>>> maybe the policy slam could be added to that part (without discarding the
>>> allies/foes idea too).  So lets wait on the slot definition and then in the
>>> meantime we could take a look into ways of possibly making this meeting
>>> slightly more informal.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Bruna
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2018-07-24 11:36 GMT-03:00 DANIEL NANGHAKA <dndannang at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> Great. Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 24 Jul 2018 at 17:35, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 24/07/2018 16:26, DANIEL NANGHAKA wrote:
>>>
>>> This is great so far. Has the agenda yet been drafted?
>>>
>>>
>>> Once we have a good format, we'll get down to drafting the topics.
>>> Kindest regards,
>>>
>>> Olivier
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Nanghaka Daniel K.
>>> Executive Director - ILICIT Africa / Chair - FOSSFA / Community Lead -
>>> ISOC Uganda Chapter / Geo4Africa Lead / Organising Team - FOSS4G2018
>>> Mobile +256 772 898298 (Uganda)
>>>
>>> Skype: daniel.nanghaka
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------- *"Working for Africa" *
>>> -----------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>>>
>>> @boomartins
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond, PhD
>>>
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>>>
>>> --
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>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Regards
>> Nanghaka Daniel K.
>> Executive Director - ILICIT Africa/ Chair - Outreach and Engagement WG
>> (ICANN At-Large)/ Chair - FOSSFA  / Geo4Africa Lead / Organising Team -
>> FOSS4G2018
>> Mobile +256 772 898298 (Uganda)
>> Skype: daniel.nanghaka
>>
>> ----------------------------------------- *"Working for Africa" *
>> -----------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
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