<div dir="ltr"><div>Folks</div><div><br></div><div>This is the response from Farzaneh</div><div>NCSG wants to continue affirming that NCUC has a continuous source of funding. <br></div><div>I guess point of view is everything. <br></div><div><br></div><div>So this is up to you. If you want to disimburse 1200USD from NCUC to NCSG At-Large Outreach, vote on it. <br></div><div>I am against.<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: <b class="gmail_sendername">farzaneh badii</b> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>></span><br>Date: Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 1:50 PM<br>Subject: Re: [Ext] Re: presenting EC for At-Large outreach planning<br>To: Renata Aquino <<a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com">raquino@gmail.com</a>><br><br><br><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I don't know why it's so difficult to understand a simple concept: you do have access to resources and it is NCUC money until March 2019. Everyone knows that but you just insist on not understanding it. If you keep saying it's not you are acting against NCUC interest. Correct yourself please on the email. </div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="m_1639106912925855684gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Farzaneh </font></div></div></div></div><br></font></span></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 12:47 PM Renata Aquino Ribeiro <<a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" target="_blank">raquino@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Olivier</div><div>cc'ing Farzaneh again</div><div><br></div><div>Olivier, I am glad you got a response from Adam. All I got was silence. <br></div><div><br></div><div>As for contribution of 1200USD to the event, NCUC does not have any source of funding anymore, only NCSG. <br></div><div><br></div><div>So I'm copying NCSG Chair. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div><br></div><div>Renata<br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 1:13 PM, DANIEL NANGHAKA <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dndannang@gmail.com" target="_blank">dndannang@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:small;color:#20124d">I agree with you. Olivier. <br></div><div style="font-size:small;color:#20124d"><br></div><div style="font-size:small;color:#20124d">Adam, I believe when it comes to Outreach and Engagement - the priorities should be re-thought as this is an important component of the Multi-Stakeholder Model. The value that is extended to the building of a participatory team requires a lot of support and funding. </div><div style="font-size:small;color:#20124d"><br></div><div style="font-size:small;color:#20124d">The power of volunteers cannot be underestimated especially in the need to keep up the PDPs running. Amidst the financial constraints can something be done to enhance ICANNs contribution to community activities. </div><div style="font-size:small;color:#20124d"><br></div><div style="font-size:small;color:#20124d">As the preparations continue probably we should be expectant that a review can be done. </div><div style="font-size:small;color:#20124d"><br></div><div style="font-size:small;color:#20124d">Kind Regards </div><div style="font-size:small;color:#20124d">Daniel K. Nanghaka </div></div><div hspace="streak-pt-mark" style="max-height:1px"><img alt="" style="width:0px;max-height:0px;overflow:hidden" src="https://mailfoogae.appspot.com/t?sender=aZG5kYW5uYW5nQGdtYWlsLmNvbQ%3D%3D&type=zerocontent&guid=9f3e25ab-dbc8-44bf-b4ce-d051253422b0"><font size="1" color="#ffffff">ᐧ</font></div><div><div class="m_1639106912925855684m_8377068497743158594h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, 21 Aug 2018 at 19:07, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <<a href="mailto:ocl@gih.com" target="_blank">ocl@gih.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    Dear Adam,<br>
    <br>
    thank you for your kind response. I must admit this does *not* fill
    me with joy. I have now been operating in ICANN circles for long
    enough to note that conditions in which we are to keep this
    multistakeholder model running are deteriorating and indeed,
    deteriorating fast. Volunteers are being asked to work more and find
    more volunteers to join the model, yet ICANN's contribution and
    support for this is decreasing. You know where this is leading us.<br>
    <br>
    I have suggested a set of slots below. Let's see what the Meetings
    Team comes up with, please.<br>
    Kindest regards,<br>
    <br>
    Olivier<br>
    <br>
    <div class="m_1639106912925855684m_8377068497743158594m_-5802837004540927473m_-8492651277085861232moz-cite-prefix">On 21/08/2018 17:21, Adam Peake wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal">Dear Olivier, all;<u></u><u></u></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Olivier, you are correct, the <span style="color:black">outreach/townhall proposals were
            rejected in the Additional Budget Requests, and while they
            were noted in the core budget no money was allocated to the
            activities, there are no additional funds for the Barcelona
            outreach.  GSE Europe has no additional funds for outreach
            in the FY19 budget.  My apologies for any misunderstanding. 
          </span><u></u><u></u></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">We are in the
            process of securing a meeting room able to accommodate 100+
            for consecutive 90-min slots.  This will depend on overall
            room availability, but we are discussing with the meetings
            team.  <u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">ICANN will be
            able to cover basic catering, coffee and snacks or boxed
            lunch depending on timing of the sessions.  We are looking
            into details and will keep you informed.  Please continue
            planning for 2 sessions.
            <u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> </span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Warm regards,</span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> </span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Adam<u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Olivier MJ
              Crépin-Leblond <a class="m_1639106912925855684m_8377068497743158594m_-5802837004540927473m_-8492651277085861232moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ocl@gih.com" target="_blank"><ocl@gih.com></a><br>
              <b>Date: </b>Tuesday, August 21, 2018 16:53<br>
              <b>To: </b>Bruna Martins dos Santos
              <a class="m_1639106912925855684m_8377068497743158594m_-5802837004540927473m_-8492651277085861232moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bruna.mrtns@gmail.com" target="_blank"><bruna.mrtns@gmail.com></a>, DANIEL NANGHAKA
              <a class="m_1639106912925855684m_8377068497743158594m_-5802837004540927473m_-8492651277085861232moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dndannang@gmail.com" target="_blank"><dndannang@gmail.com></a><br>
              <b>Cc: </b><a class="m_1639106912925855684m_8377068497743158594m_-5802837004540927473m_-8492651277085861232moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:sebicann@bachollet.fr" target="_blank">"sebicann@bachollet.fr"</a>
              <a class="m_1639106912925855684m_8377068497743158594m_-5802837004540927473m_-8492651277085861232moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:sebicann@bachollet.fr" target="_blank"><sebicann@bachollet.fr></a>, Tatiana Tropina
              <a class="m_1639106912925855684m_8377068497743158594m_-5802837004540927473m_-8492651277085861232moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:tatiana.tropina@gmail.com" target="_blank"><tatiana.tropina@gmail.com></a>, Elsa S
              <a class="m_1639106912925855684m_8377068497743158594m_-5802837004540927473m_-8492651277085861232moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:elsa.saade@gmail.com" target="_blank"><elsa.saade@gmail.com></a>, Adam Peake
              <a class="m_1639106912925855684m_8377068497743158594m_-5802837004540927473m_-8492651277085861232moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:adam.peake@icann.org" target="_blank"><adam.peake@icann.org></a>, Louise Marie Hurel
              <a class="m_1639106912925855684m_8377068497743158594m_-5802837004540927473m_-8492651277085861232moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:louise.marie.hsd@gmail.com" target="_blank"><louise.marie.hsd@gmail.com></a>, Maryam Bakoshi
              <a class="m_1639106912925855684m_8377068497743158594m_-5802837004540927473m_-8492651277085861232moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:maryam.bakoshi@icann.org" target="_blank"><maryam.bakoshi@icann.org></a>, Michael Karanicolas
              <a class="m_1639106912925855684m_8377068497743158594m_-5802837004540927473m_-8492651277085861232moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mkaranicolas@gmail.com" target="_blank"><mkaranicolas@gmail.com></a>, Renata
              <a class="m_1639106912925855684m_8377068497743158594m_-5802837004540927473m_-8492651277085861232moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" target="_blank"><raquino@gmail.com></a>, Farz
              <a class="m_1639106912925855684m_8377068497743158594m_-5802837004540927473m_-8492651277085861232moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com" target="_blank"><farzaneh.badii@gmail.com></a>, Tijani BEN JEMAA
              <a class="m_1639106912925855684m_8377068497743158594m_-5802837004540927473m_-8492651277085861232moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn" target="_blank"><tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn></a>, Maureen Hilyard
              <a class="m_1639106912925855684m_8377068497743158594m_-5802837004540927473m_-8492651277085861232moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:maureen.hilyard@gmail.com" target="_blank"><maureen.hilyard@gmail.com></a>, Glenn McKnight
              <a class="m_1639106912925855684m_8377068497743158594m_-5802837004540927473m_-8492651277085861232moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mcknight.glenn@gmail.com" target="_blank"><mcknight.glenn@gmail.com></a>, Yrjö Länsipuro
              <a class="m_1639106912925855684m_8377068497743158594m_-5802837004540927473m_-8492651277085861232moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:yrjo_lansipuro@hotmail.com" target="_blank"><yrjo_lansipuro@hotmail.com></a>, Dev Anand Teelucksingh
              <a class="m_1639106912925855684m_8377068497743158594m_-5802837004540927473m_-8492651277085861232moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:admin@ttcsweb.org" target="_blank"><admin@ttcsweb.org></a>, ICANN At-Large Staff
              <a class="m_1639106912925855684m_8377068497743158594m_-5802837004540927473m_-8492651277085861232moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org" target="_blank"><staff@atlarge.icann.org></a><br>
              <b>Subject: </b>[Ext] Re: presenting EC for At-Large
              outreach planning<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Dear Renata,<br>
          <br>
          it has been a month and I am following up on this thread as
          time is of the essence.<br>
          On the one side we have the format to design and I have read
          several interesting proposals.<br>
          <br>
          Right now I am focussing on the actual time slot.<br>
          <br>
          - Given that the Additional Budget Request was refused
          suggested as Core, this means that we could have some limited
          funding for a lunch or cocktail. I have heard figures of
          At-Large being able to put $1200, with a hope that GSE could
          put $1200. Could NCUC also put $1200 on the table?<br>
          <br>
          - Given that the Barcelona meeting is going to be overloaded
          with sessions, with the EPDP etc. all eating up tons of cycles
          and the meetings team having decided to scrap the Friday of
          the week apparently because "the community asked for a shorter
          AGM in the latest travel public comment", the word "struggle"
          is an understatement when asking for 3 hours or 2 x 1.5 hours.<br>
          <br>
          We had only two options:<br>
          - Day 1 - Saturday 20th October - clashes with the all day
          EPDP sessions<br>
          - Day 2 - Sunday 21st October - clashes with GNSO policy work
          day, other PDPs and also ALAC work<br>
          <br>
          A recent meeting of the At-Large Outreach & Engagement WG
          was attended by Siranush Vardanyan and she mentioned that the
          NextGen and the Fellows will be busy on day 1 from 8:00am
          until 3:00pm (15:00) with all of the "newcomers day"
          presentations and sessions.<br>
          So may I suggest we try for  Day 1, block 4 (15:15-16:45) and
          block 5 (17:00-18:30)?<br>
          This has the advantage that we could ask to keep the room that
          the Fellowship & NextGen are using and therefore we'll
          have a captive audience to start with, in a room that should
          be large enough, and then afterwards we are encouraged to
          continue with a joint Fellowship/NextGen cocktail?<br>
          <br>
          Now I know this is going to clash with some of the EPDP stuff,
          but it's going to be impossible to find any slot in the week
          that would be unconflicted with someone or other.<br>
          <br>
          Kindest regards,<br>
          <br>
          Olivier<br>
          <br>
          <u></u><u></u></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">On 24/07/2018 17:05, Bruna Martins dos
            Santos wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">Hey all, <u></u><u></u></p>
            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
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            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal">Welcome to the new additions to the
                thread! <br>
                <br>
                Once we have agreed on a good and reviewed/new format we
                could also consider bringing new themes to the policy
                part of the outreach, I remember we had accountability
                in Panama but with the end of the ccwg maybe we can
                bring new issues to the table. <u></u><u></u></p>
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            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
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            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal">Also, if we manage to find a slot
                that would allow us to have a cocktail maybe the policy
                slam could be added to that part (without discarding the
                allies/foes idea too).  So lets wait on the slot
                definition and then in the meantime we could take a look
                into ways of possibly making this meeting slightly more
                informal. <u></u><u></u></p>
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            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
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            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal">Best, <u></u><u></u></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">Bruna <u></u><u></u></p>
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          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">2018-07-24 11:36 GMT-03:00 DANIEL
                NANGHAKA <<a href="mailto:dndannang@gmail.com" target="_blank">dndannang@gmail.com</a>>:<u></u><u></u></p>
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                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#20124d">Great.
                        Thanks <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
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                      <div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, 24 Jul 2018 at
                          17:35, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <<a href="mailto:ocl@gih.com" target="_blank">ocl@gih.com</a>>
                          wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal">On 24/07/2018 16:26,
                              DANIEL NANGHAKA wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal">This is great so far.
                              Has the agenda yet been drafted?<u></u><u></u></p>
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                            Once we have a good format, we'll get down
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                            Kindest regards,<br>
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                            Olivier<u></u><u></u></p>
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                      <u></u><u></u></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">-- <u></u><u></u></p>
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                                                Regards <br>
                                                Nanghaka Daniel K.<br>
                                                <span style="font-size:12.0pt">Executive
                                                  Director - ILICIT
                                                  Africa / Chair -
                                                  FOSSFA / Community
                                                  Lead - ISOC Uganda
                                                  Chapter / Geo4Africa
                                                  Lead / Organising Team
                                                  - FOSS4G2018</span><br>
                                                Mobile +256 772 898298
                                                (Uganda)<u></u><u></u></p>
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                                                daniel.nanghaka<u></u><u></u></p>
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                                              <p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
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                                              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">------------------------------<wbr>-----------
                                                <i>"Working for Africa"
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><i>Bruna Martins dos
                                  Santos </i></b><u></u><u></u></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal">Skype ID:
                                bruna.martinsantos<u></u><u></u></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal">@boomartins<u></u><u></u></p>
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        <pre>Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond, PhD<u></u><u></u></pre>
        <pre><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.gih.com_ocl.html&d=DwMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=bE2HdgWRDycp9rTiVT4rniVxsxwRdmqYbQLSoy_sJEo&m=La_8DYCwoTGQF2KPZwHJaXpkqqaQ0aSXEQKmxtYkJ9s&s=SFL8sizjahorg3ZoL1zCprV6LEUpguOOhjRizGCYb4s&e=" target="_blank">http://www.gih.com/ocl.html [gih.com]</a><u></u><u></u></pre>
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Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond, PhD
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