[NCUC-EC] NCUC mentees for ICANN62 - Deliberate until 26Apr

Fri Apr 20 10:54:58 CEST 2018

Hi folks,

Really appreciate the number of applications until now. Have reviewed all
of them, however, despite their excellent curricula, I'd also support a
two-day deadline extension.
At least, at this stage, we could give it a last try to call in more
applicants and make the selection more competitive and gender-balanced. And
I would also like to see more people that are engaging in PDPs and/or
comments.

Agree with Ines point - especially with regards to ensuring all applicants
are eligible before sending their answers:
*Second,  I would suggest that, for next rounds when we issue a call for
applications, we also add a short section on "eligibility criteria to apply
for the fellowship" instead of the link as it seems some applicants did not
consult our travel policy, https://www.ncuc.org/get-involved/travel-policy/
<https://www.ncuc.org/get-involved/travel-policy/>*

Cheers,

Louise Marie Hurel

Cybersecurity Project Coordinator | Igarapé Institute

London School of Economics (LSE) Media and Communications (Data and Society)
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2018-04-19 21:24 GMT+01:00 Bruna Martins dos Santos <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>:

> Guys, any further words on this ?
>
> best,
> B.
>
> 2018-04-18 16:48 GMT-03:00 Bruna Martins dos Santos <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com
> >:
>
>> Dear Ines,
>>
>> I am sorry if you understood it that way, I am suggesting the extension
>> due to the fact that the other 3 regions - NA, EU and LAC - could reach out
>> to members and check with them if they have interest. And also based on the
>> fact that I would personally like to see candidates that are more involved
>> with PDPs. - these were my reasons for my request and I did not want to be
>> disrespectful to other regions. I did share the call with my regional
>> list and I think thats the case for other EC members - I dont think we can
>> assume that they did not reach out to their regional lists.
>>
>> So far NCUC has been able to rotate between regions - CPH fellows were
>> both from APAC (i guess), Johannesburg - AF and LAC, Abu Dhabi - LAC +
>> Mentee, San Juan - AF and EU - so my suggestion also comes due to the
>> fact that we should be able to have a more diverse composition of selected
>> fellows per meeting.  On the gender diversity note, I know Houda is a
>> female applicant and I very much appreciate the fact, but I would also like
>> to see more.
>>
>> But given that EC has not yet voted on the pool of candidates as it is, i
>> dont see a problem on reopening the deadline for 2 more days when the
>> deliberation has not yet formally started.
>>
>> Thanks for weighing in, Ines, I appreciate your opinions (: I am not
>> asking for much, maybe only a 2/3 day deadline and sending the fellows
>> announcement to the list on early monday/sunday night.
>>
>>
>> best,
>> B.
>>
>> 2018-04-18 16:27 GMT-03:00 hfaiedh ines <hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com>:
>>
>>>  An extension because we have only a pool from Africa and Asia does not
>>> make any sense to me as a cause for push up! First time, I see that
>>> happening!
>>>
>>> Houda is a female applicant if we are asking about gender diversity and
>>> a push of deadline for applications now would make it even harder for other
>>> applicants to seek a visa for Panama and we are two months away.
>>>
>>> The call was open from April 1st to April14th and was an opportunity for
>>> EC to reach out to their regional mailing lists, opening it up again and
>>> now, 4 days after deadline passed, for the reason I just read and making
>>> exceptions to other people would make membership ask many legitimate
>>> questions about our process in selection.
>>>
>>> My two cents
>>>
>>> 2018-04-18 19:14 GMT+00:00 Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>> Dear all
>>>>
>>>> I believe Houda is female candidate
>>>> However, indeed we only have AF and AP candidates, I think.
>>>> If others support an extension please come forward soon, time is of the
>>>> essence.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 4:05 PM, Michael Karanicolas
>>>> <mkaranicolas at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > I also noticed that latter point - all male candidates isn't a great
>>>> look. I
>>>> > would support an extension.
>>>> >
>>>> > On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 3:56 PM, Bruna Martins dos Santos
>>>> > <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Dear EC and Renata,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Should we push for an extension ? Given that this is the first LAC
>>>> meeting
>>>> >> in years, I would like to at least try to reach out to some members
>>>> from the
>>>> >> region so see if they would apply. Also, we could also re-run the
>>>> call in
>>>> >> our lists to see if we manage to get more female applicants.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> What do you say ??
>>>> >>
>>>> >> best,
>>>> >> Bruna
>>>> >>
>>>> >> 2018-04-18 10:57 GMT-03:00 hfaiedh ines <hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com>:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Dear colleagues,
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> I finished reviewing the applications for the ICANN62 NCUC
>>>> Fellowship.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> First, I would like to thank all those who applied for this
>>>> opportunity
>>>> >>> and I congratulate them for their impressive work and curriculum.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Second,  I would suggest that, for next rounds when we issue a call
>>>> for
>>>> >>> applications, we also add a short section on "eligibility criteria
>>>> to apply
>>>> >>> for the fellowship" instead of the link as it seems some applicants
>>>> did not
>>>> >>> consult our travel policy, https://www.ncuc.org/get-invol
>>>> ved/travel-policy/
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Eligibility Criteria
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> To receive travel support, applicants must be NCUC members in good
>>>> >>> standing who:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Voted in the previous year’s NCUC election, if eligible at the time;
>>>> >>> Are actively and verifiably engaged in NCUC’s work, for example,
>>>> >>> constituency governance, NCUC/NCSG policy discussions, or GNSO or
>>>> >>> cross-community working groups;
>>>> >>> Need to be at a given meeting because the above-mentioned work will
>>>> be
>>>> >>> advanced there;
>>>> >>> Agree to participate in any NCUC, NCSG and GNSO meetings held
>>>> during the
>>>> >>> meeting;
>>>> >>> Agree to write a brief post-trip blog post for the NCUC website
>>>> >>> reflecting on the meeting’s main developments of relevance to NCUC;
>>>> >>> Did not receive NCUC funding to attend the immediately previous
>>>> ICANN
>>>> >>> meeting, unless exceptional circumstances require their presence at
>>>> two
>>>> >>> consecutive meetings. (Note: this criteria only applies to regular
>>>> ICANN
>>>> >>> meetings, as below)
>>>> >>> Agree to make their own travel, accommodation, visa, and related
>>>> >>> arrangements and be reimbursed after the trip. NCUC cannot provide
>>>> funds in
>>>> >>> advance of meetings or any administrative support.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Third, I would suggest that the applicants we select for this round
>>>> or
>>>> >>> the next ones, commit to take part in the NCUC buddy/mentor program
>>>> and work
>>>> >>> on a topic/issue/project with their mentor to present at ICANN62.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Fourth, I suggest for next rounds we advertize more about the Buddy
>>>> >>> program and clearly state that it is one of the conditions or adds
>>>> to the
>>>> >>> scoring of an application.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> That said, and since the goal is to give a chance to two mentees to
>>>> get
>>>> >>> more active and learn about NCUC, I would support the application
>>>> of Ziyam
>>>> >>> Abdeen and Houda Chihi, and having their commitment to the
>>>> Buddy/mentee
>>>> >>> program as I explained on the third point.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Best of luck to all.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> 2018-04-17 14:56 GMT+00:00 Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com
>>>> >:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Dear EC
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> This specific member process is something we can ask staff to
>>>> check w/
>>>> >>>> NCSG.
>>>> >>>> The NCSG EC approves members, not NCUC.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> If the majority of EC wants to consider this application, we have
>>>> to
>>>> >>>> have this conversation of member approval with NCSG EC. It hasn't
>>>> been
>>>> >>>> done before that I know of but it is up to you to ask.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Best,
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Renata
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 10:57 AM, Michael Karanicolas
>>>> >>>> <mkaranicolas at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>> > Ok. Do we know when she applied? Sorry to push on this, but I
>>>> wouldn't
>>>> >>>> > want
>>>> >>>> > to penalize her for delays in processing on our end.
>>>> >>>> >
>>>> >>>> > I think as long as she's applied, we should consider her
>>>> application,
>>>> >>>> > particularly since these are mentee slots, so we should be
>>>> aiming at
>>>> >>>> > people
>>>> >>>> > who are relatively new anyway.
>>>> >>>> >
>>>> >>>> > On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 9:41 AM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro
>>>> >>>> > <raquino at gmail.com>
>>>> >>>> > wrote:
>>>> >>>> >>
>>>> >>>> >> Yes, Michael, anyone who wants to be a member goes through NCSG
>>>> EC
>>>> >>>> >> vetting and that hasn't happened for her yet, apparently.
>>>> >>>> >>
>>>> >>>> >> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 9:36 AM, Michael Karanicolas
>>>> >>>> >> <mkaranicolas at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>> >> > Hi,
>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>> >>>> >> > Thanks for sending along. Can I ask for clarification on our
>>>> >>>> >> > criteria,
>>>> >>>> >> > and
>>>> >>>> >> > why Ioana doesn't qualify? Are you saying she is not formally
>>>> a
>>>> >>>> >> > member
>>>> >>>> >> > of
>>>> >>>> >> > NCUC yet?
>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>> >>>> >> > Best,
>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>> >>>> >> > Michael
>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>> >>>> >> > On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 8:47 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro
>>>> >>>> >> > <raquino at gmail.com>
>>>> >>>> >> > wrote:
>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>> >>>> >> >> Dear EC
>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>> >>>> >> >> Here are the candidates for ICANN62
>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>> >>>> >> >> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UsX0KXwhT6cimbpUWYdz
>>>> Ls01G5FTHHADHhdLkcZ1Yos/edit?usp=sharing
>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>> >>>> >> >> We had also the candidacy of Ioana S. who is still a
>>>> candidate to
>>>> >>>> >> >> be a
>>>> >>>> >> >> member so not in accordance to criteria.
>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>> >>>> >> >> Please vote asap or send in your comments
>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>> >>>> >> >> We must announce results by the 27th or earliest
>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>> >>>> >> >> Thank you
>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>> >>>> >> >> Best,
>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>> >>>> >> >> Renata
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>>>> >> --
>>>> >> Bruna Martins dos Santos
>>>> >>
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