[NCUC-EC] NCUC mentees for ICANN62 - Deliberate until 26Apr

Thu Apr 19 22:24:31 CEST 2018

Guys, any further words on this ?

best,
B.

2018-04-18 16:48 GMT-03:00 Bruna Martins dos Santos <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>:

> Dear Ines,
>
> I am sorry if you understood it that way, I am suggesting the extension
> due to the fact that the other 3 regions - NA, EU and LAC - could reach out
> to members and check with them if they have interest. And also based on the
> fact that I would personally like to see candidates that are more involved
> with PDPs. - these were my reasons for my request and I did not want to be
> disrespectful to other regions. I did share the call with my regional
> list and I think thats the case for other EC members - I dont think we can
> assume that they did not reach out to their regional lists.
>
> So far NCUC has been able to rotate between regions - CPH fellows were
> both from APAC (i guess), Johannesburg - AF and LAC, Abu Dhabi - LAC +
> Mentee, San Juan - AF and EU - so my suggestion also comes due to the
> fact that we should be able to have a more diverse composition of selected
> fellows per meeting.  On the gender diversity note, I know Houda is a
> female applicant and I very much appreciate the fact, but I would also like
> to see more.
>
> But given that EC has not yet voted on the pool of candidates as it is, i
> dont see a problem on reopening the deadline for 2 more days when the
> deliberation has not yet formally started.
>
> Thanks for weighing in, Ines, I appreciate your opinions (: I am not
> asking for much, maybe only a 2/3 day deadline and sending the fellows
> announcement to the list on early monday/sunday night.
>
>
> best,
> B.
>
> 2018-04-18 16:27 GMT-03:00 hfaiedh ines <hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com>:
>
>>  An extension because we have only a pool from Africa and Asia does not
>> make any sense to me as a cause for push up! First time, I see that
>> happening!
>>
>> Houda is a female applicant if we are asking about gender diversity and a
>> push of deadline for applications now would make it even harder for other
>> applicants to seek a visa for Panama and we are two months away.
>>
>> The call was open from April 1st to April14th and was an opportunity for
>> EC to reach out to their regional mailing lists, opening it up again and
>> now, 4 days after deadline passed, for the reason I just read and making
>> exceptions to other people would make membership ask many legitimate
>> questions about our process in selection.
>>
>> My two cents
>>
>> 2018-04-18 19:14 GMT+00:00 Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Dear all
>>>
>>> I believe Houda is female candidate
>>> However, indeed we only have AF and AP candidates, I think.
>>> If others support an extension please come forward soon, time is of the
>>> essence.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 4:05 PM, Michael Karanicolas
>>> <mkaranicolas at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > I also noticed that latter point - all male candidates isn't a great
>>> look. I
>>> > would support an extension.
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 3:56 PM, Bruna Martins dos Santos
>>> > <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Dear EC and Renata,
>>> >>
>>> >> Should we push for an extension ? Given that this is the first LAC
>>> meeting
>>> >> in years, I would like to at least try to reach out to some members
>>> from the
>>> >> region so see if they would apply. Also, we could also re-run the
>>> call in
>>> >> our lists to see if we manage to get more female applicants.
>>> >>
>>> >> What do you say ??
>>> >>
>>> >> best,
>>> >> Bruna
>>> >>
>>> >> 2018-04-18 10:57 GMT-03:00 hfaiedh ines <hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com>:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Dear colleagues,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I finished reviewing the applications for the ICANN62 NCUC
>>> Fellowship.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> First, I would like to thank all those who applied for this
>>> opportunity
>>> >>> and I congratulate them for their impressive work and curriculum.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Second,  I would suggest that, for next rounds when we issue a call
>>> for
>>> >>> applications, we also add a short section on "eligibility criteria
>>> to apply
>>> >>> for the fellowship" instead of the link as it seems some applicants
>>> did not
>>> >>> consult our travel policy, https://www.ncuc.org/get-invol
>>> ved/travel-policy/
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Eligibility Criteria
>>> >>>
>>> >>> To receive travel support, applicants must be NCUC members in good
>>> >>> standing who:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Voted in the previous year’s NCUC election, if eligible at the time;
>>> >>> Are actively and verifiably engaged in NCUC’s work, for example,
>>> >>> constituency governance, NCUC/NCSG policy discussions, or GNSO or
>>> >>> cross-community working groups;
>>> >>> Need to be at a given meeting because the above-mentioned work will
>>> be
>>> >>> advanced there;
>>> >>> Agree to participate in any NCUC, NCSG and GNSO meetings held during
>>> the
>>> >>> meeting;
>>> >>> Agree to write a brief post-trip blog post for the NCUC website
>>> >>> reflecting on the meeting’s main developments of relevance to NCUC;
>>> >>> Did not receive NCUC funding to attend the immediately previous ICANN
>>> >>> meeting, unless exceptional circumstances require their presence at
>>> two
>>> >>> consecutive meetings. (Note: this criteria only applies to regular
>>> ICANN
>>> >>> meetings, as below)
>>> >>> Agree to make their own travel, accommodation, visa, and related
>>> >>> arrangements and be reimbursed after the trip. NCUC cannot provide
>>> funds in
>>> >>> advance of meetings or any administrative support.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Third, I would suggest that the applicants we select for this round
>>> or
>>> >>> the next ones, commit to take part in the NCUC buddy/mentor program
>>> and work
>>> >>> on a topic/issue/project with their mentor to present at ICANN62.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Fourth, I suggest for next rounds we advertize more about the Buddy
>>> >>> program and clearly state that it is one of the conditions or adds
>>> to the
>>> >>> scoring of an application.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> That said, and since the goal is to give a chance to two mentees to
>>> get
>>> >>> more active and learn about NCUC, I would support the application of
>>> Ziyam
>>> >>> Abdeen and Houda Chihi, and having their commitment to the
>>> Buddy/mentee
>>> >>> program as I explained on the third point.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Best of luck to all.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> 2018-04-17 14:56 GMT+00:00 Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com
>>> >:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Dear EC
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> This specific member process is something we can ask staff to check
>>> w/
>>> >>>> NCSG.
>>> >>>> The NCSG EC approves members, not NCUC.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> If the majority of EC wants to consider this application, we have to
>>> >>>> have this conversation of member approval with NCSG EC. It hasn't
>>> been
>>> >>>> done before that I know of but it is up to you to ask.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Best,
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Renata
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 10:57 AM, Michael Karanicolas
>>> >>>> <mkaranicolas at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>> > Ok. Do we know when she applied? Sorry to push on this, but I
>>> wouldn't
>>> >>>> > want
>>> >>>> > to penalize her for delays in processing on our end.
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > I think as long as she's applied, we should consider her
>>> application,
>>> >>>> > particularly since these are mentee slots, so we should be aiming
>>> at
>>> >>>> > people
>>> >>>> > who are relatively new anyway.
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 9:41 AM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro
>>> >>>> > <raquino at gmail.com>
>>> >>>> > wrote:
>>> >>>> >>
>>> >>>> >> Yes, Michael, anyone who wants to be a member goes through NCSG
>>> EC
>>> >>>> >> vetting and that hasn't happened for her yet, apparently.
>>> >>>> >>
>>> >>>> >> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 9:36 AM, Michael Karanicolas
>>> >>>> >> <mkaranicolas at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>> >> > Hi,
>>> >>>> >> >
>>> >>>> >> > Thanks for sending along. Can I ask for clarification on our
>>> >>>> >> > criteria,
>>> >>>> >> > and
>>> >>>> >> > why Ioana doesn't qualify? Are you saying she is not formally a
>>> >>>> >> > member
>>> >>>> >> > of
>>> >>>> >> > NCUC yet?
>>> >>>> >> >
>>> >>>> >> > Best,
>>> >>>> >> >
>>> >>>> >> > Michael
>>> >>>> >> >
>>> >>>> >> > On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 8:47 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro
>>> >>>> >> > <raquino at gmail.com>
>>> >>>> >> > wrote:
>>> >>>> >> >>
>>> >>>> >> >> Dear EC
>>> >>>> >> >>
>>> >>>> >> >> Here are the candidates for ICANN62
>>> >>>> >> >>
>>> >>>> >> >>
>>> >>>> >> >>
>>> >>>> >> >>
>>> >>>> >> >> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UsX0KXwhT6cimbpUWYdz
>>> Ls01G5FTHHADHhdLkcZ1Yos/edit?usp=sharing
>>> >>>> >> >>
>>> >>>> >> >> We had also the candidacy of Ioana S. who is still a
>>> candidate to
>>> >>>> >> >> be a
>>> >>>> >> >> member so not in accordance to criteria.
>>> >>>> >> >>
>>> >>>> >> >> Please vote asap or send in your comments
>>> >>>> >> >>
>>> >>>> >> >> We must announce results by the 27th or earliest
>>> >>>> >> >>
>>> >>>> >> >> Thank you
>>> >>>> >> >>
>>> >>>> >> >> Best,
>>> >>>> >> >>
>>> >>>> >> >> Renata
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>>> >> --
>>> >> Bruna Martins dos Santos
>>> >>
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