[NCUC-EC] NCUC mentees for ICANN62 - Deliberate until 26Apr

Wed Apr 18 21:48:47 CEST 2018

Dear Ines,

I am sorry if you understood it that way, I am suggesting the extension due
to the fact that the other 3 regions - NA, EU and LAC - could reach out to
members and check with them if they have interest. And also based on the
fact that I would personally like to see candidates that are more involved
with PDPs. - these were my reasons for my request and I did not want to be
disrespectful to other regions. I did share the call with my regional list
and I think thats the case for other EC members - I dont think we can
assume that they did not reach out to their regional lists.

So far NCUC has been able to rotate between regions - CPH fellows were both
from APAC (i guess), Johannesburg - AF and LAC, Abu Dhabi - LAC + Mentee,
San Juan - AF and EU - so my suggestion also comes due to the fact that we
should be able to have a more diverse composition of selected fellows per
meeting.  On the gender diversity note, I know Houda is a female applicant
and I very much appreciate the fact, but I would also like to see more.

But given that EC has not yet voted on the pool of candidates as it is, i
dont see a problem on reopening the deadline for 2 more days when the
deliberation has not yet formally started.

Thanks for weighing in, Ines, I appreciate your opinions (: I am not asking
for much, maybe only a 2/3 day deadline and sending the fellows
announcement to the list on early monday/sunday night.

best,
B.

2018-04-18 16:27 GMT-03:00 hfaiedh ines <hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com>:

>  An extension because we have only a pool from Africa and Asia does not
> make any sense to me as a cause for push up! First time, I see that
> happening!
>
> Houda is a female applicant if we are asking about gender diversity and a
> push of deadline for applications now would make it even harder for other
> applicants to seek a visa for Panama and we are two months away.
>
> The call was open from April 1st to April14th and was an opportunity for
> EC to reach out to their regional mailing lists, opening it up again and
> now, 4 days after deadline passed, for the reason I just read and making
> exceptions to other people would make membership ask many legitimate
> questions about our process in selection.
>
> My two cents
>
> 2018-04-18 19:14 GMT+00:00 Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>:
>
>> Dear all
>>
>> I believe Houda is female candidate
>> However, indeed we only have AF and AP candidates, I think.
>> If others support an extension please come forward soon, time is of the
>> essence.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 4:05 PM, Michael Karanicolas
>> <mkaranicolas at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I also noticed that latter point - all male candidates isn't a great
>> look. I
>> > would support an extension.
>> >
>> > On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 3:56 PM, Bruna Martins dos Santos
>> > <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Dear EC and Renata,
>> >>
>> >> Should we push for an extension ? Given that this is the first LAC
>> meeting
>> >> in years, I would like to at least try to reach out to some members
>> from the
>> >> region so see if they would apply. Also, we could also re-run the call
>> in
>> >> our lists to see if we manage to get more female applicants.
>> >>
>> >> What do you say ??
>> >>
>> >> best,
>> >> Bruna
>> >>
>> >> 2018-04-18 10:57 GMT-03:00 hfaiedh ines <hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com>:
>> >>>
>> >>> Dear colleagues,
>> >>>
>> >>> I finished reviewing the applications for the ICANN62 NCUC Fellowship.
>> >>>
>> >>> First, I would like to thank all those who applied for this
>> opportunity
>> >>> and I congratulate them for their impressive work and curriculum.
>> >>>
>> >>> Second,  I would suggest that, for next rounds when we issue a call
>> for
>> >>> applications, we also add a short section on "eligibility criteria to
>> apply
>> >>> for the fellowship" instead of the link as it seems some applicants
>> did not
>> >>> consult our travel policy, https://www.ncuc.org/get-invol
>> ved/travel-policy/
>> >>>
>> >>> Eligibility Criteria
>> >>>
>> >>> To receive travel support, applicants must be NCUC members in good
>> >>> standing who:
>> >>>
>> >>> Voted in the previous year’s NCUC election, if eligible at the time;
>> >>> Are actively and verifiably engaged in NCUC’s work, for example,
>> >>> constituency governance, NCUC/NCSG policy discussions, or GNSO or
>> >>> cross-community working groups;
>> >>> Need to be at a given meeting because the above-mentioned work will be
>> >>> advanced there;
>> >>> Agree to participate in any NCUC, NCSG and GNSO meetings held during
>> the
>> >>> meeting;
>> >>> Agree to write a brief post-trip blog post for the NCUC website
>> >>> reflecting on the meeting’s main developments of relevance to NCUC;
>> >>> Did not receive NCUC funding to attend the immediately previous ICANN
>> >>> meeting, unless exceptional circumstances require their presence at
>> two
>> >>> consecutive meetings. (Note: this criteria only applies to regular
>> ICANN
>> >>> meetings, as below)
>> >>> Agree to make their own travel, accommodation, visa, and related
>> >>> arrangements and be reimbursed after the trip. NCUC cannot provide
>> funds in
>> >>> advance of meetings or any administrative support.
>> >>>
>> >>> Third, I would suggest that the applicants we select for this round or
>> >>> the next ones, commit to take part in the NCUC buddy/mentor program
>> and work
>> >>> on a topic/issue/project with their mentor to present at ICANN62.
>> >>>
>> >>> Fourth, I suggest for next rounds we advertize more about the Buddy
>> >>> program and clearly state that it is one of the conditions or adds to
>> the
>> >>> scoring of an application.
>> >>>
>> >>> That said, and since the goal is to give a chance to two mentees to
>> get
>> >>> more active and learn about NCUC, I would support the application of
>> Ziyam
>> >>> Abdeen and Houda Chihi, and having their commitment to the
>> Buddy/mentee
>> >>> program as I explained on the third point.
>> >>>
>> >>> Best of luck to all.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> 2018-04-17 14:56 GMT+00:00 Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Dear EC
>> >>>>
>> >>>> This specific member process is something we can ask staff to check
>> w/
>> >>>> NCSG.
>> >>>> The NCSG EC approves members, not NCUC.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> If the majority of EC wants to consider this application, we have to
>> >>>> have this conversation of member approval with NCSG EC. It hasn't
>> been
>> >>>> done before that I know of but it is up to you to ask.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Best,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Renata
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 10:57 AM, Michael Karanicolas
>> >>>> <mkaranicolas at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>> > Ok. Do we know when she applied? Sorry to push on this, but I
>> wouldn't
>> >>>> > want
>> >>>> > to penalize her for delays in processing on our end.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > I think as long as she's applied, we should consider her
>> application,
>> >>>> > particularly since these are mentee slots, so we should be aiming
>> at
>> >>>> > people
>> >>>> > who are relatively new anyway.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 9:41 AM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro
>> >>>> > <raquino at gmail.com>
>> >>>> > wrote:
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> Yes, Michael, anyone who wants to be a member goes through NCSG EC
>> >>>> >> vetting and that hasn't happened for her yet, apparently.
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 9:36 AM, Michael Karanicolas
>> >>>> >> <mkaranicolas at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>> >> > Hi,
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> > Thanks for sending along. Can I ask for clarification on our
>> >>>> >> > criteria,
>> >>>> >> > and
>> >>>> >> > why Ioana doesn't qualify? Are you saying she is not formally a
>> >>>> >> > member
>> >>>> >> > of
>> >>>> >> > NCUC yet?
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> > Best,
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> > Michael
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> > On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 8:47 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro
>> >>>> >> > <raquino at gmail.com>
>> >>>> >> > wrote:
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> Dear EC
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> Here are the candidates for ICANN62
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UsX0KXwhT6cimbpUWYdz
>> Ls01G5FTHHADHhdLkcZ1Yos/edit?usp=sharing
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> We had also the candidacy of Ioana S. who is still a candidate
>> to
>> >>>> >> >> be a
>> >>>> >> >> member so not in accordance to criteria.
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> Please vote asap or send in your comments
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> We must announce results by the 27th or earliest
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> Thank you
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> Best,
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> Renata
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>> >> Bruna Martins dos Santos
>> >>
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