[NCUC-EC] NCUC mentees for ICANN62 - Deliberate until 26Apr

Fri Apr 20 14:44:18 CEST 2018

Dear all

So we have had the following votes about extension
In favor - NA, LAC, EU
Oppose - AF
Did not vote yet - AP

I'll open then an extension until monday 23Apr 23UTC for new
candidacies for better gender and regional balance for mentees for
ICANN62
That gives more or less 2 business days

I will advise the EC to please try and respect the original
deliberation period - until 26Apr 23:59UTC

So we close this item in time for proper travel arrangements processing

Thank you


On Fri, Apr 20, 2018 at 5:54 AM, Louise Marie Hurel
<louise.marie.hsd at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> Really appreciate the number of applications until now. Have reviewed all of
> them, however, despite their excellent curricula, I'd also support a two-day
> deadline extension.
> At least, at this stage, we could give it a last try to call in more
> applicants and make the selection more competitive and gender-balanced. And
> I would also like to see more people that are engaging in PDPs and/or
> comments.
>
> Agree with Ines point - especially with regards to ensuring all applicants
> are eligible before sending their answers:
> Second,  I would suggest that, for next rounds when we issue a call for
> applications, we also add a short section on "eligibility criteria to apply
> for the fellowship" instead of the link as it seems some applicants did not
> consult our travel policy, https://www.ncuc.org/get-involved/travel-policy/
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> Louise Marie Hurel
>
> Cybersecurity Project Coordinator | Igarapé Institute
>
> London School of Economics (LSE) Media and Communications (Data and Society)
>
> Skype: louise.dias
> +44 (0) 7468 906327
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>
>
> 2018-04-19 21:24 GMT+01:00 Bruna Martins dos Santos <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>:
>>
>> Guys, any further words on this ?
>>
>> best,
>> B.
>>
>> 2018-04-18 16:48 GMT-03:00 Bruna Martins dos Santos
>> <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> Dear Ines,
>>>
>>> I am sorry if you understood it that way, I am suggesting the extension
>>> due to the fact that the other 3 regions - NA, EU and LAC - could reach out
>>> to members and check with them if they have interest. And also based on the
>>> fact that I would personally like to see candidates that are more involved
>>> with PDPs. - these were my reasons for my request and I did not want to be
>>> disrespectful to other regions. I did share the call with my regional list
>>> and I think thats the case for other EC members - I dont think we can assume
>>> that they did not reach out to their regional lists.
>>>
>>> So far NCUC has been able to rotate between regions - CPH fellows were
>>> both from APAC (i guess), Johannesburg - AF and LAC, Abu Dhabi - LAC +
>>> Mentee, San Juan - AF and EU - so my suggestion also comes due to the fact
>>> that we should be able to have a more diverse composition of selected
>>> fellows per meeting.  On the gender diversity note, I know Houda is a female
>>> applicant and I very much appreciate the fact, but I would also like to see
>>> more.
>>>
>>> But given that EC has not yet voted on the pool of candidates as it is, i
>>> dont see a problem on reopening the deadline for 2 more days when the
>>> deliberation has not yet formally started.
>>>
>>> Thanks for weighing in, Ines, I appreciate your opinions (: I am not
>>> asking for much, maybe only a 2/3 day deadline and sending the fellows
>>> announcement to the list on early monday/sunday night.
>>>
>>>
>>> best,
>>> B.
>>>
>>> 2018-04-18 16:27 GMT-03:00 hfaiedh ines <hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>>  An extension because we have only a pool from Africa and Asia does not
>>>> make any sense to me as a cause for push up! First time, I see that
>>>> happening!
>>>>
>>>> Houda is a female applicant if we are asking about gender diversity and
>>>> a push of deadline for applications now would make it even harder for other
>>>> applicants to seek a visa for Panama and we are two months away.
>>>>
>>>> The call was open from April 1st to April14th and was an opportunity for
>>>> EC to reach out to their regional mailing lists, opening it up again and
>>>> now, 4 days after deadline passed, for the reason I just read and making
>>>> exceptions to other people would make membership ask many legitimate
>>>> questions about our process in selection.
>>>>
>>>> My two cents
>>>>
>>>> 2018-04-18 19:14 GMT+00:00 Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear all
>>>>>
>>>>> I believe Houda is female candidate
>>>>> However, indeed we only have AF and AP candidates, I think.
>>>>> If others support an extension please come forward soon, time is of the
>>>>> essence.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 4:05 PM, Michael Karanicolas
>>>>> <mkaranicolas at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> > I also noticed that latter point - all male candidates isn't a great
>>>>> > look. I
>>>>> > would support an extension.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 3:56 PM, Bruna Martins dos Santos
>>>>> > <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Dear EC and Renata,
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Should we push for an extension ? Given that this is the first LAC
>>>>> >> meeting
>>>>> >> in years, I would like to at least try to reach out to some members
>>>>> >> from the
>>>>> >> region so see if they would apply. Also, we could also re-run the
>>>>> >> call in
>>>>> >> our lists to see if we manage to get more female applicants.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> What do you say ??
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> best,
>>>>> >> Bruna
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> 2018-04-18 10:57 GMT-03:00 hfaiedh ines <hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com>:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Dear colleagues,
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> I finished reviewing the applications for the ICANN62 NCUC
>>>>> >>> Fellowship.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> First, I would like to thank all those who applied for this
>>>>> >>> opportunity
>>>>> >>> and I congratulate them for their impressive work and curriculum.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Second,  I would suggest that, for next rounds when we issue a call
>>>>> >>> for
>>>>> >>> applications, we also add a short section on "eligibility criteria
>>>>> >>> to apply
>>>>> >>> for the fellowship" instead of the link as it seems some applicants
>>>>> >>> did not
>>>>> >>> consult our travel policy,
>>>>> >>> https://www.ncuc.org/get-involved/travel-policy/
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Eligibility Criteria
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> To receive travel support, applicants must be NCUC members in good
>>>>> >>> standing who:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Voted in the previous year’s NCUC election, if eligible at the
>>>>> >>> time;
>>>>> >>> Are actively and verifiably engaged in NCUC’s work, for example,
>>>>> >>> constituency governance, NCUC/NCSG policy discussions, or GNSO or
>>>>> >>> cross-community working groups;
>>>>> >>> Need to be at a given meeting because the above-mentioned work will
>>>>> >>> be
>>>>> >>> advanced there;
>>>>> >>> Agree to participate in any NCUC, NCSG and GNSO meetings held
>>>>> >>> during the
>>>>> >>> meeting;
>>>>> >>> Agree to write a brief post-trip blog post for the NCUC website
>>>>> >>> reflecting on the meeting’s main developments of relevance to NCUC;
>>>>> >>> Did not receive NCUC funding to attend the immediately previous
>>>>> >>> ICANN
>>>>> >>> meeting, unless exceptional circumstances require their presence at
>>>>> >>> two
>>>>> >>> consecutive meetings. (Note: this criteria only applies to regular
>>>>> >>> ICANN
>>>>> >>> meetings, as below)
>>>>> >>> Agree to make their own travel, accommodation, visa, and related
>>>>> >>> arrangements and be reimbursed after the trip. NCUC cannot provide
>>>>> >>> funds in
>>>>> >>> advance of meetings or any administrative support.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Third, I would suggest that the applicants we select for this round
>>>>> >>> or
>>>>> >>> the next ones, commit to take part in the NCUC buddy/mentor program
>>>>> >>> and work
>>>>> >>> on a topic/issue/project with their mentor to present at ICANN62.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Fourth, I suggest for next rounds we advertize more about the Buddy
>>>>> >>> program and clearly state that it is one of the conditions or adds
>>>>> >>> to the
>>>>> >>> scoring of an application.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> That said, and since the goal is to give a chance to two mentees to
>>>>> >>> get
>>>>> >>> more active and learn about NCUC, I would support the application
>>>>> >>> of Ziyam
>>>>> >>> Abdeen and Houda Chihi, and having their commitment to the
>>>>> >>> Buddy/mentee
>>>>> >>> program as I explained on the third point.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Best of luck to all.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> 2018-04-17 14:56 GMT+00:00 Renata Aquino Ribeiro
>>>>> >>> <raquino at gmail.com>:
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> Dear EC
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> This specific member process is something we can ask staff to
>>>>> >>>> check w/
>>>>> >>>> NCSG.
>>>>> >>>> The NCSG EC approves members, not NCUC.
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> If the majority of EC wants to consider this application, we have
>>>>> >>>> to
>>>>> >>>> have this conversation of member approval with NCSG EC. It hasn't
>>>>> >>>> been
>>>>> >>>> done before that I know of but it is up to you to ask.
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> Best,
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> Renata
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 10:57 AM, Michael Karanicolas
>>>>> >>>> <mkaranicolas at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >>>> > Ok. Do we know when she applied? Sorry to push on this, but I
>>>>> >>>> > wouldn't
>>>>> >>>> > want
>>>>> >>>> > to penalize her for delays in processing on our end.
>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>> >>>> > I think as long as she's applied, we should consider her
>>>>> >>>> > application,
>>>>> >>>> > particularly since these are mentee slots, so we should be
>>>>> >>>> > aiming at
>>>>> >>>> > people
>>>>> >>>> > who are relatively new anyway.
>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>> >>>> > On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 9:41 AM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro
>>>>> >>>> > <raquino at gmail.com>
>>>>> >>>> > wrote:
>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>> >>>> >> Yes, Michael, anyone who wants to be a member goes through NCSG
>>>>> >>>> >> EC
>>>>> >>>> >> vetting and that hasn't happened for her yet, apparently.
>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>> >>>> >> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 9:36 AM, Michael Karanicolas
>>>>> >>>> >> <mkaranicolas at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >>>> >> > Hi,
>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>> >>>> >> > Thanks for sending along. Can I ask for clarification on our
>>>>> >>>> >> > criteria,
>>>>> >>>> >> > and
>>>>> >>>> >> > why Ioana doesn't qualify? Are you saying she is not formally
>>>>> >>>> >> > a
>>>>> >>>> >> > member
>>>>> >>>> >> > of
>>>>> >>>> >> > NCUC yet?
>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>> >>>> >> > Best,
>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>> >>>> >> > Michael
>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>> >>>> >> > On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 8:47 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro
>>>>> >>>> >> > <raquino at gmail.com>
>>>>> >>>> >> > wrote:
>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>> >>>> >> >> Dear EC
>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>> >>>> >> >> Here are the candidates for ICANN62
>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>> >>>> >> >> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UsX0KXwhT6cimbpUWYdzLs01G5FTHHADHhdLkcZ1Yos/edit?usp=sharing
>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>> >>>> >> >> We had also the candidacy of Ioana S. who is still a
>>>>> >>>> >> >> candidate to
>>>>> >>>> >> >> be a
>>>>> >>>> >> >> member so not in accordance to criteria.
>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>> >>>> >> >> Please vote asap or send in your comments
>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>> >>>> >> >> We must announce results by the 27th or earliest
>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>> >>>> >> >> Thank you
>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>> >>>> >> >> Best,
>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>> >>>> >> >> Renata
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>>>>> >> --
>>>>> >> Bruna Martins dos Santos
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> +55 61 99252-6512
>>>>> >> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>>>>> >> @boomartins
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