[NCUC-EC] NCSG-At Large outreach

hfaiedh ines hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com
Tue Apr 17 10:01:34 CEST 2018 

Dear Farzaneh and Renata

So my understanding is :

NCSG-At Large Outreach

Duration : <3 hours

NCUC slot: 30- 45 min

Or is it going to be an interactive session where both At Large and NCSG
interact with the audience and clarify items simultaneously (my preferred
option) in a more natural way ?

Please correct me if am wrong.

Do you happen to have a tentative date for this outreach event?





Le lundi 16 avril 2018, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com> a écrit :

> Farzaneh,
>
> Yes, we had too many outreach sessions not as well attended as the
> At-Large outreach.
> I particularly don't see that as an advantage for NCUC but indeed we
> are within a structure so we will collaborate, hopefully managing to
> have some self-identity in the end.
>
> On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 6:56 PM, farzaneh badii
> <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Renata
> >
> > Last time there were so many NCUC outreach sessions that your EC members
> > could not even go to any other sessions that they wanted to go to. I
> don't
> > think that is the right approach.
> >
> > We are not many different groups. NCUC and NPOC are different in
> structure
> > but are aiming towards the same goal through NCSG, their umbrella
> structure.
> > People sometimes think they can join NPOC or NCUC without having to join
> > NCSG. These things can be clarified when we do our outreach together.
> And I
> > only suggest this for the policy meeting this time. I suggest having your
> > own outreach session at AGM.
> >
> >
> >
> > Farzaneh
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 5:48 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <
> raquino at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Farzaneh
> >>
> >> Thanks for your advice
> >> I hope, though, we can have our own sessions (or even w/ NPOC) at
> >> other occasions, as amassing all in this session seems gathering too
> >> many different groups to listen to only a few (same) voices.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >>
> >> Renata
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 6:21 PM, farzaneh badii
> >> <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hi everyone,
> >> >
> >> > The Panama meeting is a policy meeting (only this time around, from
> next
> >> > year it will be policy-outreach).
> >> >
> >> >    This session is an outreach for NCSG and its constituencies so in
> >> > effect
> >> > it is your outreach. I suggest getting involved with agenda setting of
> >> > the
> >> > NCSG outreach but not have a separate NPOC-NCUC outreach, that would
> be
> >> > too
> >> > much and you will be in conflict with many other sessions,
> >> >
> >> > Whoever wants to be involved with setting the agenda as well as Renata
> >> > reach
> >> > out to me and Tatiana.
> >> >
> >> > I also think 3 hours might be too much for this session and we might
> >> > have
> >> > conflicts so we might have to shorten it. Anyhow all the groups will
> be
> >> > getting equal time.
> >> >
> >> > Best
> >> >
> >> > Farzaneh
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 4:58 PM, <ncuc-ec-request at lists.ncuc.org>
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> >> >>    2. Re: Fwd: Joint Civil Society Outreach at ICANN62
> >> >>       (Bruna Martins dos Santos)
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------
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> >> >>
> >> >> Message: 1
> >> >> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 20:13:47 +0000
> >> >> From: hfaiedh ines <hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com>
> >> >> To: Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
> >> >> Cc: Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com>, "Exec. Comm"
> >> >>         <ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org>
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> >> >>
> >> >> Sure, we can do that.
> >> >>
> >> >> Le lundi 16 avril 2018, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com> a
> >> >> écrit
> >> >> :
> >> >> > Hi Elsa
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks for your offer, I am sure the allocated EC can find ways you
> >> >> > can
> >> >> help
> >> >> > I have no idea what role will NCUC have being it an NCSG+At-Large
> >> >> > I am guessing that will remain to be seen
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Best,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Renata
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 4:23 PM, Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >> >> Hi Renata,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Going through the thread, I'm assuming if this goes through as
> NCSG
> >> >> >> +
> >> >> >> At-Large, we would still have NCUC+NPOC as a session of its own?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I am ready to help where I can on this.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Best,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Elsa
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 3:02 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro
> >> >> >> <raquino at gmail.com
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Dear EC
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> We were sent this invite by OCL to a joint outreach session in
> >> >> >>> ICANN62
> >> >> >>> (Already asked to be renamed NCSG + At-Large by Tatiana and
> >> >> >>> Farzaneh)
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> If no objection by tomorrow, it would be good the 2 EC allocated
> to
> >> >> >>> ICANN62 work on this by NCUC part
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Do all agree?
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Best,
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Renata
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >> >> >>> From: Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com>
> >> >> >>> Date: Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 2:27 PM
> >> >> >>> Subject: Joint Civil Society Outreach at ICANN62
> >> >> >>> To: Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa at planet.tn>, Tatiana
> Tropina
> >> >> >>> <tatiana.tropina at gmail.com>, Bruna Martins <
> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>,
> >> >> >>> Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com>, Gisella Gruber
> >> >> >>> <gisella.gruber at icann.org>, Maryam Bakoshi
> >> >> >>> <maryam.bakoshi at icann.org>,
> >> >> >>> Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>, farzaneh badii
> >> >> >>> <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>, Joan Kerr <joankerr at fbsc.org>
> >> >> >>> Cc: At Large Staff <Staff at atlarge.icann.org>, Alan Greenberg
> >> >> >>> <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>, Glenn McKnight
> >> >> >>> <mcknight.glenn at gmail.com>,
> >> >> >>> "admin at ttcsweb.org" <admin at ttcsweb.org>, Daniel Nanghaka
> >> >> >>> <daniel.nanghaka at isoc.ug>, Maureen Hilyard
> >> >> >>> <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Hey everyone,
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> my colleague Tijani Ben Jemaa has kicked me into action my
> >> >> >>> reminding
> >> >> >>> me that time is of the essence and ICANN62 Panama will be upon us
> >> >> >>> before we realise it. This email contains information for several
> >> >> >>> people to get the ball rolling, so please read it carefully.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Our Joint Civil Society Outreach session (NCUC + At-Large) at
> >> >> >>> ICANN61
> >> >> >>> appears to have been well received. Immediately afterwards, I was
> >> >> >>> told
> >> >> >>> several things by several people:
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> - 90 minutes is too short, so next time we need to make this a
> >> >> >>> longer
> >> >> >>> event
> >> >> >>> I would tend to agree to this. Perhaps can we reduce some of the
> >> >> >>> explanations about what we are, and expand a bit on the policy
> >> >> >>> discussions/debates. Can we have a session cut into two halves,
> in
> >> >> >>> order for people to have a coffee & speak to each other? After
> the
> >> >> >>> ICANN61 session, it was clear that people wanted to continue to
> >> >> >>> discuss things informally too
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> - Why not do NCUC+NPOC+At-Large, or NCSG+At-Large at ICANN62?
> >> >> >>> I am all for it, and several people from At-Large have said yes,
> >> >> >>> let's
> >> >> >>> do it. I do not know what would be the better format, whether
> >> >> >>> jointly
> >> >> >>> NCUC-NPOC or NCSG. I have been told that NCUC-NPOC is *not* NCSG,
> >> >> >>> thus
> >> >> >>> could you - Renate, Farzaneh, Joan, please speak together to let
> us
> >> >> >>> know what *you* would prefer?
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> - Time/date needs to be decided ASAP
> >> >> >>> This way the ALAC (the Committee itself) will avoid having a
> >> >> >>> session
> >> >> >>> that takes place at the same time. Alan Greenberg has committed
> to
> >> >> >>> that, seeing that the session is so popular and would also be
> >> >> >>> helpful
> >> >> >>> to ALAC.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> - Room booking need to be done early. Gisella & Maryam, please
> >> >> >>> check
> >> >> >>> this ASAP, knowing deadlines for room bookings .
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> - Moderators - Tatiana & I would be happy to continue animating
> the
> >> >> >>> session
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> - Topics - again, doing the same thing as in previous times and
> >> >> >>> contributing to a Google DOC will allow us to build a topic list
> >> >> >>> that
> >> >> >>> is exciting for everyone
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> So in short: let's get the ball rolling - I look forward to your
> >> >> >>> kind
> >> >> >>> input/responses.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Kindest regards,
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Olivier
> >> >> >>> _______________________________________________
> >> >> >>> NCUC-EC mailing list
> >> >> >>> NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
> >> >> >>> https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Elsa Saade
> >> >> >> Consultant
> >> >> >> Gulf Centre for Human Rights
> >> >> >> Twitter: @Elsa_Saade
> >> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> >> > NCUC-EC mailing list
> >> >> > NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
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> >> >>
> >> >> Message: 2
> >> >> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 17:58:26 -0300
> >> >> From: Bruna Martins dos Santos <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>
> >> >> To: hfaiedh ines <hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com>
> >> >> Cc: Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>, "Exec. Comm"
> >> >>         <ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org>
> >> >> Subject: Re: [NCUC-EC] Fwd: Joint Civil Society Outreach at ICANN62
> >> >> Message-ID:
> >> >>
> >> >> <CADAEEV0D28T_2ufcYRvN2caGsRgKmJxKpD-mNnQW9FuHuTAzLA at mail.gmail.com>
> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >> >>
> >> >> I can also help if needed!
> >> >>
> >> >> Best,
> >> >> B.
> >> >>
> >> >> 2018-04-16 17:13 GMT-03:00 hfaiedh ines <hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com>:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Sure, we can do that.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Le lundi 16 avril 2018, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
> a
> >> >> > écrit :
> >> >> > > Hi Elsa
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Thanks for your offer, I am sure the allocated EC can find ways
> you
> >> >> > > can
> >> >> > help
> >> >> > > I have no idea what role will NCUC have being it an NCSG+At-Large
> >> >> > > I am guessing that will remain to be seen
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Best,
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Renata
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 4:23 PM, Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com>
> >> >> > > wrote:
> >> >> > >> Hi Renata,
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> Going through the thread, I'm assuming if this goes through as
> >> >> > >> NCSG +
> >> >> > >> At-Large, we would still have NCUC+NPOC as a session of its own?
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> I am ready to help where I can on this.
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> Best,
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> Elsa
> >> >> > >> --
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 3:02 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <
> >> >> > raquino at gmail.com>
> >> >> > >> wrote:
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> Dear EC
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> We were sent this invite by OCL to a joint outreach session in
> >> >> > >>> ICANN62
> >> >> > >>> (Already asked to be renamed NCSG + At-Large by Tatiana and
> >> >> > >>> Farzaneh)
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> If no objection by tomorrow, it would be good the 2 EC
> allocated
> >> >> > >>> to
> >> >> > >>> ICANN62 work on this by NCUC part
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> Do all agree?
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> Best,
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> Renata
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >> >> > >>> From: Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com>
> >> >> > >>> Date: Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 2:27 PM
> >> >> > >>> Subject: Joint Civil Society Outreach at ICANN62
> >> >> > >>> To: Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa at planet.tn>, Tatiana
> Tropina
> >> >> > >>> <tatiana.tropina at gmail.com>, Bruna Martins
> >> >> > >>> <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>,
> >> >> > >>> Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com>, Gisella Gruber
> >> >> > >>> <gisella.gruber at icann.org>, Maryam Bakoshi
> >> >> > >>> <maryam.bakoshi at icann.org>,
> >> >> > >>> Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>, farzaneh badii
> >> >> > >>> <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>, Joan Kerr <joankerr at fbsc.org>
> >> >> > >>> Cc: At Large Staff <Staff at atlarge.icann.org>, Alan Greenberg
> >> >> > >>> <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>, Glenn McKnight
> >> >> > >>> <mcknight.glenn at gmail.com>,
> >> >> > >>> "admin at ttcsweb.org" <admin at ttcsweb.org>, Daniel Nanghaka
> >> >> > >>> <daniel.nanghaka at isoc.ug>, Maureen Hilyard
> >> >> > >>> <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> Hey everyone,
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> my colleague Tijani Ben Jemaa has kicked me into action my
> >> >> > >>> reminding
> >> >> > >>> me that time is of the essence and ICANN62 Panama will be upon
> us
> >> >> > >>> before we realise it. This email contains information for
> several
> >> >> > >>> people to get the ball rolling, so please read it carefully.
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> Our Joint Civil Society Outreach session (NCUC + At-Large) at
> >> >> > >>> ICANN61
> >> >> > >>> appears to have been well received. Immediately afterwards, I
> was
> >> >> > >>> told
> >> >> > >>> several things by several people:
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> - 90 minutes is too short, so next time we need to make this a
> >> >> > >>> longer
> >> >> > >>> event
> >> >> > >>> I would tend to agree to this. Perhaps can we reduce some of
> the
> >> >> > >>> explanations about what we are, and expand a bit on the policy
> >> >> > >>> discussions/debates. Can we have a session cut into two halves,
> >> >> > >>> in
> >> >> > >>> order for people to have a coffee & speak to each other? After
> >> >> > >>> the
> >> >> > >>> ICANN61 session, it was clear that people wanted to continue to
> >> >> > >>> discuss things informally too
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> - Why not do NCUC+NPOC+At-Large, or NCSG+At-Large at ICANN62?
> >> >> > >>> I am all for it, and several people from At-Large have said
> yes,
> >> >> > >>> let's
> >> >> > >>> do it. I do not know what would be the better format, whether
> >> >> > >>> jointly
> >> >> > >>> NCUC-NPOC or NCSG. I have been told that NCUC-NPOC is *not*
> NCSG,
> >> >> > >>> thus
> >> >> > >>> could you - Renate, Farzaneh, Joan, please speak together to
> let
> >> >> > >>> us
> >> >> > >>> know what *you* would prefer?
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> - Time/date needs to be decided ASAP
> >> >> > >>> This way the ALAC (the Committee itself) will avoid having a
> >> >> > >>> session
> >> >> > >>> that takes place at the same time. Alan Greenberg has committed
> >> >> > >>> to
> >> >> > >>> that, seeing that the session is so popular and would also be
> >> >> > >>> helpful
> >> >> > >>> to ALAC.
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> - Room booking need to be done early. Gisella & Maryam, please
> >> >> > >>> check
> >> >> > >>> this ASAP, knowing deadlines for room bookings .
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> - Moderators - Tatiana & I would be happy to continue animating
> >> >> > >>> the
> >> >> > >>> session
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> - Topics - again, doing the same thing as in previous times and
> >> >> > >>> contributing to a Google DOC will allow us to build a topic
> list
> >> >> > >>> that
> >> >> > >>> is exciting for everyone
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> So in short: let's get the ball rolling - I look forward to
> your
> >> >> > >>> kind
> >> >> > >>> input/responses.
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> Kindest regards,
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> Olivier
> >> >> > >>> _______________________________________________
> >> >> > >>> NCUC-EC mailing list
> >> >> > >>> NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
> >> >> > >>> https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> --
> >> >> > >> --
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> Elsa Saade
> >> >> > >> Consultant
> >> >> > >> Gulf Centre for Human Rights
> >> >> > >> Twitter: @Elsa_Saade
> >> >> > > _______________________________________________
> >> >> > > NCUC-EC mailing list
> >> >> > > NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
> >> >> > > https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec
> >> >> > >
> >> >> >
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> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
> >> >>
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