[NCUC-EC] NCSG-At Large outreach

Tue Apr 17 13:23:14 CEST 2018

Thank you.

No, nothing has been set regarding slots, format, timing. And we don't have
a date either. We just started talking about it a couple of days ago. If
anyone from EC wants to be involved with preparations please let Tatiana
and I know.

On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 4:01 AM hfaiedh ines <hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Dear Farzaneh and Renata
>
> So my understanding is :
>
> NCSG-At Large Outreach
>
> Duration : <3 hours
>
> NCUC slot: 30- 45 min
>
> Or is it going to be an interactive session where both At Large and NCSG
> interact with the audience and clarify items simultaneously (my preferred
> option) in a more natural way ?
>
> Please correct me if am wrong.
>
> Do you happen to have a tentative date for this outreach event?
>
>
>
>
>
> Le lundi 16 avril 2018, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com> a
> écrit :
>
>> Farzaneh,
>>
>> Yes, we had too many outreach sessions not as well attended as the
>> At-Large outreach.
>> I particularly don't see that as an advantage for NCUC but indeed we
>> are within a structure so we will collaborate, hopefully managing to
>> have some self-identity in the end.
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 6:56 PM, farzaneh badii
>> <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Renata
>> >
>> > Last time there were so many NCUC outreach sessions that your EC members
>> > could not even go to any other sessions that they wanted to go to. I
>> don't
>> > think that is the right approach.
>> >
>> > We are not many different groups. NCUC and NPOC are different in
>> structure
>> > but are aiming towards the same goal through NCSG, their umbrella
>> structure.
>> > People sometimes think they can join NPOC or NCUC without having to join
>> > NCSG. These things can be clarified when we do our outreach together.
>> And I
>> > only suggest this for the policy meeting this time. I suggest having
>> your
>> > own outreach session at AGM.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Farzaneh
>> >
>> > On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 5:48 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <
>> raquino at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi Farzaneh
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for your advice
>> >> I hope, though, we can have our own sessions (or even w/ NPOC) at
>> >> other occasions, as amassing all in this session seems gathering too
>> >> many different groups to listen to only a few (same) voices.
>> >>
>> >> Best,
>> >>
>> >> Renata
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 6:21 PM, farzaneh badii
>> >> <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Hi everyone,
>> >> >
>> >> > The Panama meeting is a policy meeting (only this time around, from
>> next
>> >> > year it will be policy-outreach).
>> >> >
>> >> >    This session is an outreach for NCSG and its constituencies so in
>> >> > effect
>> >> > it is your outreach. I suggest getting involved with agenda setting
>> of
>> >> > the
>> >> > NCSG outreach but not have a separate NPOC-NCUC outreach, that would
>> be
>> >> > too
>> >> > much and you will be in conflict with many other sessions,
>> >> >
>> >> > Whoever wants to be involved with setting the agenda as well as
>> Renata
>> >> > reach
>> >> > out to me and Tatiana.
>> >> >
>> >> > I also think 3 hours might be too much for this session and we might
>> >> > have
>> >> > conflicts so we might have to shorten it. Anyhow all the groups will
>> be
>> >> > getting equal time.
>> >> >
>> >> > Best
>> >> >
>> >> > Farzaneh
>> >> >
>> >> > On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 4:58 PM, <ncuc-ec-request at lists.ncuc.org>
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>> >> >>    1. Re: Fwd: Joint Civil Society Outreach at ICANN62 (hfaiedh
>> ines)
>> >> >>    2. Re: Fwd: Joint Civil Society Outreach at ICANN62
>> >> >>       (Bruna Martins dos Santos)
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
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>> >> >>
>> >> >> Message: 1
>> >> >> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 20:13:47 +0000
>> >> >> From: hfaiedh ines <hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com>
>> >> >> To: Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
>> >> >> Cc: Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com>, "Exec. Comm"
>> >> >>         <ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org>
>> >> >> Subject: Re: [NCUC-EC] Fwd: Joint Civil Society Outreach at ICANN62
>> >> >> Message-ID:
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>> >> >> Sure, we can do that.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Le lundi 16 avril 2018, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com> a
>> >> >> écrit
>> >> >> :
>> >> >> > Hi Elsa
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Thanks for your offer, I am sure the allocated EC can find ways
>> you
>> >> >> > can
>> >> >> help
>> >> >> > I have no idea what role will NCUC have being it an NCSG+At-Large
>> >> >> > I am guessing that will remain to be seen
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Best,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Renata
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 4:23 PM, Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> >> >> Hi Renata,
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Going through the thread, I'm assuming if this goes through as
>> NCSG
>> >> >> >> +
>> >> >> >> At-Large, we would still have NCUC+NPOC as a session of its own?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I am ready to help where I can on this.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Best,
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Elsa
>> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 3:02 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro
>> >> >> >> <raquino at gmail.com
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Dear EC
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> We were sent this invite by OCL to a joint outreach session in
>> >> >> >>> ICANN62
>> >> >> >>> (Already asked to be renamed NCSG + At-Large by Tatiana and
>> >> >> >>> Farzaneh)
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> If no objection by tomorrow, it would be good the 2 EC
>> allocated to
>> >> >> >>> ICANN62 work on this by NCUC part
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Do all agree?
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Best,
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Renata
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> >> >> >>> From: Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com>
>> >> >> >>> Date: Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 2:27 PM
>> >> >> >>> Subject: Joint Civil Society Outreach at ICANN62
>> >> >> >>> To: Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa at planet.tn>, Tatiana
>> Tropina
>> >> >> >>> <tatiana.tropina at gmail.com>, Bruna Martins <
>> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>,
>> >> >> >>> Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com>, Gisella Gruber
>> >> >> >>> <gisella.gruber at icann.org>, Maryam Bakoshi
>> >> >> >>> <maryam.bakoshi at icann.org>,
>> >> >> >>> Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>, farzaneh badii
>> >> >> >>> <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>, Joan Kerr <joankerr at fbsc.org>
>> >> >> >>> Cc: At Large Staff <Staff at atlarge.icann.org>, Alan Greenberg
>> >> >> >>> <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>, Glenn McKnight
>> >> >> >>> <mcknight.glenn at gmail.com>,
>> >> >> >>> "admin at ttcsweb.org" <admin at ttcsweb.org>, Daniel Nanghaka
>> >> >> >>> <daniel.nanghaka at isoc.ug>, Maureen Hilyard
>> >> >> >>> <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Hey everyone,
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> my colleague Tijani Ben Jemaa has kicked me into action my
>> >> >> >>> reminding
>> >> >> >>> me that time is of the essence and ICANN62 Panama will be upon
>> us
>> >> >> >>> before we realise it. This email contains information for
>> several
>> >> >> >>> people to get the ball rolling, so please read it carefully.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Our Joint Civil Society Outreach session (NCUC + At-Large) at
>> >> >> >>> ICANN61
>> >> >> >>> appears to have been well received. Immediately afterwards, I
>> was
>> >> >> >>> told
>> >> >> >>> several things by several people:
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> - 90 minutes is too short, so next time we need to make this a
>> >> >> >>> longer
>> >> >> >>> event
>> >> >> >>> I would tend to agree to this. Perhaps can we reduce some of the
>> >> >> >>> explanations about what we are, and expand a bit on the policy
>> >> >> >>> discussions/debates. Can we have a session cut into two halves,
>> in
>> >> >> >>> order for people to have a coffee & speak to each other? After
>> the
>> >> >> >>> ICANN61 session, it was clear that people wanted to continue to
>> >> >> >>> discuss things informally too
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> - Why not do NCUC+NPOC+At-Large, or NCSG+At-Large at ICANN62?
>> >> >> >>> I am all for it, and several people from At-Large have said yes,
>> >> >> >>> let's
>> >> >> >>> do it. I do not know what would be the better format, whether
>> >> >> >>> jointly
>> >> >> >>> NCUC-NPOC or NCSG. I have been told that NCUC-NPOC is *not*
>> NCSG,
>> >> >> >>> thus
>> >> >> >>> could you - Renate, Farzaneh, Joan, please speak together to
>> let us
>> >> >> >>> know what *you* would prefer?
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> - Time/date needs to be decided ASAP
>> >> >> >>> This way the ALAC (the Committee itself) will avoid having a
>> >> >> >>> session
>> >> >> >>> that takes place at the same time. Alan Greenberg has committed
>> to
>> >> >> >>> that, seeing that the session is so popular and would also be
>> >> >> >>> helpful
>> >> >> >>> to ALAC.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> - Room booking need to be done early. Gisella & Maryam, please
>> >> >> >>> check
>> >> >> >>> this ASAP, knowing deadlines for room bookings .
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> - Moderators - Tatiana & I would be happy to continue animating
>> the
>> >> >> >>> session
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> - Topics - again, doing the same thing as in previous times and
>> >> >> >>> contributing to a Google DOC will allow us to build a topic list
>> >> >> >>> that
>> >> >> >>> is exciting for everyone
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> So in short: let's get the ball rolling - I look forward to your
>> >> >> >>> kind
>> >> >> >>> input/responses.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Kindest regards,
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Olivier
>> >> >> >>> _______________________________________________
>> >> >> >>> NCUC-EC mailing list
>> >> >> >>> NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
>> >> >> >>> https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Elsa Saade
>> >> >> >> Consultant
>> >> >> >> Gulf Centre for Human Rights
>> >> >> >> Twitter: @Elsa_Saade
>> >> >> > _______________________________________________
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>> >> >>
>> >> >> Message: 2
>> >> >> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 17:58:26 -0300
>> >> >> From: Bruna Martins dos Santos <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>
>> >> >> To: hfaiedh ines <hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com>
>> >> >> Cc: Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>, "Exec. Comm"
>> >> >>         <ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org>
>> >> >> Subject: Re: [NCUC-EC] Fwd: Joint Civil Society Outreach at ICANN62
>> >> >> Message-ID:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> <CADAEEV0D28T_2ufcYRvN2caGsRgKmJxKpD-mNnQW9FuHuTAzLA at mail.gmail.com
>> >
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>> >> >>
>> >> >> I can also help if needed!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Best,
>> >> >> B.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 2018-04-16 17:13 GMT-03:00 hfaiedh ines <hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com>:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Sure, we can do that.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Le lundi 16 avril 2018, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
>> a
>> >> >> > écrit :
>> >> >> > > Hi Elsa
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > Thanks for your offer, I am sure the allocated EC can find ways
>> you
>> >> >> > > can
>> >> >> > help
>> >> >> > > I have no idea what role will NCUC have being it an
>> NCSG+At-Large
>> >> >> > > I am guessing that will remain to be seen
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > Best,
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > Renata
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 4:23 PM, Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com>
>> >> >> > > wrote:
>> >> >> > >> Hi Renata,
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> Going through the thread, I'm assuming if this goes through as
>> >> >> > >> NCSG +
>> >> >> > >> At-Large, we would still have NCUC+NPOC as a session of its
>> own?
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> I am ready to help where I can on this.
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> Best,
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> Elsa
>> >> >> > >> --
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 3:02 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <
>> >> >> > raquino at gmail.com>
>> >> >> > >> wrote:
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>> Dear EC
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>> We were sent this invite by OCL to a joint outreach session in
>> >> >> > >>> ICANN62
>> >> >> > >>> (Already asked to be renamed NCSG + At-Large by Tatiana and
>> >> >> > >>> Farzaneh)
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>> If no objection by tomorrow, it would be good the 2 EC
>> allocated
>> >> >> > >>> to
>> >> >> > >>> ICANN62 work on this by NCUC part
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>> Do all agree?
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>> Best,
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>> Renata
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> >> >> > >>> From: Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com>
>> >> >> > >>> Date: Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 2:27 PM
>> >> >> > >>> Subject: Joint Civil Society Outreach at ICANN62
>> >> >> > >>> To: Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa at planet.tn>, Tatiana
>> Tropina
>> >> >> > >>> <tatiana.tropina at gmail.com>, Bruna Martins
>> >> >> > >>> <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>,
>> >> >> > >>> Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com>, Gisella Gruber
>> >> >> > >>> <gisella.gruber at icann.org>, Maryam Bakoshi
>> >> >> > >>> <maryam.bakoshi at icann.org>,
>> >> >> > >>> Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>, farzaneh badii
>> >> >> > >>> <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>, Joan Kerr <joankerr at fbsc.org>
>> >> >> > >>> Cc: At Large Staff <Staff at atlarge.icann.org>, Alan Greenberg
>> >> >> > >>> <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>, Glenn McKnight
>> >> >> > >>> <mcknight.glenn at gmail.com>,
>> >> >> > >>> "admin at ttcsweb.org" <admin at ttcsweb.org>, Daniel Nanghaka
>> >> >> > >>> <daniel.nanghaka at isoc.ug>, Maureen Hilyard
>> >> >> > >>> <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>> Hey everyone,
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>> my colleague Tijani Ben Jemaa has kicked me into action my
>> >> >> > >>> reminding
>> >> >> > >>> me that time is of the essence and ICANN62 Panama will be
>> upon us
>> >> >> > >>> before we realise it. This email contains information for
>> several
>> >> >> > >>> people to get the ball rolling, so please read it carefully.
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>> Our Joint Civil Society Outreach session (NCUC + At-Large) at
>> >> >> > >>> ICANN61
>> >> >> > >>> appears to have been well received. Immediately afterwards, I
>> was
>> >> >> > >>> told
>> >> >> > >>> several things by several people:
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>> - 90 minutes is too short, so next time we need to make this a
>> >> >> > >>> longer
>> >> >> > >>> event
>> >> >> > >>> I would tend to agree to this. Perhaps can we reduce some of
>> the
>> >> >> > >>> explanations about what we are, and expand a bit on the policy
>> >> >> > >>> discussions/debates. Can we have a session cut into two
>> halves,
>> >> >> > >>> in
>> >> >> > >>> order for people to have a coffee & speak to each other? After
>> >> >> > >>> the
>> >> >> > >>> ICANN61 session, it was clear that people wanted to continue
>> to
>> >> >> > >>> discuss things informally too
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>> - Why not do NCUC+NPOC+At-Large, or NCSG+At-Large at ICANN62?
>> >> >> > >>> I am all for it, and several people from At-Large have said
>> yes,
>> >> >> > >>> let's
>> >> >> > >>> do it. I do not know what would be the better format, whether
>> >> >> > >>> jointly
>> >> >> > >>> NCUC-NPOC or NCSG. I have been told that NCUC-NPOC is *not*
>> NCSG,
>> >> >> > >>> thus
>> >> >> > >>> could you - Renate, Farzaneh, Joan, please speak together to
>> let
>> >> >> > >>> us
>> >> >> > >>> know what *you* would prefer?
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>> - Time/date needs to be decided ASAP
>> >> >> > >>> This way the ALAC (the Committee itself) will avoid having a
>> >> >> > >>> session
>> >> >> > >>> that takes place at the same time. Alan Greenberg has
>> committed
>> >> >> > >>> to
>> >> >> > >>> that, seeing that the session is so popular and would also be
>> >> >> > >>> helpful
>> >> >> > >>> to ALAC.
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>> - Room booking need to be done early. Gisella & Maryam, please
>> >> >> > >>> check
>> >> >> > >>> this ASAP, knowing deadlines for room bookings .
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>> - Moderators - Tatiana & I would be happy to continue
>> animating
>> >> >> > >>> the
>> >> >> > >>> session
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>> - Topics - again, doing the same thing as in previous times
>> and
>> >> >> > >>> contributing to a Google DOC will allow us to build a topic
>> list
>> >> >> > >>> that
>> >> >> > >>> is exciting for everyone
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>> So in short: let's get the ball rolling - I look forward to
>> your
>> >> >> > >>> kind
>> >> >> > >>> input/responses.
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>> Kindest regards,
>> >> >> > >>>
>> >> >> > >>> Olivier
>> >> >> > >>> _______________________________________________
>> >> >> > >>> NCUC-EC mailing list
>> >> >> > >>> NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
>> >> >> > >>> https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> --
>> >> >> > >> --
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> Elsa Saade
>> >> >> > >> Consultant
>> >> >> > >> Gulf Centre for Human Rights
>> >> >> > >> Twitter: @Elsa_Saade
>> >> >> > > _______________________________________________
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>> >> >> > > NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
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>> >> >> > >
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>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
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>> >> >>
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