[NCUC-EC] [deadline 6th April - Please vote] NCUC response on fellowship questionnaire

Thu Apr 5 23:02:59 CEST 2018

Just finished my comments and edits and added some ICANN Fellowship Survey
numbers. Good to go now from my side.

Good night all.

2018-04-05 19:46 GMT+00:00 hfaiedh ines <hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com>:

> Thank you Bruna :) Am finally home so will start in a few.
>
>
> Le jeudi 5 avril 2018, Bruna Martins dos Santos <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> a
> écrit :
>
>> Ines, I will make sure to take a look tonight too! (:
>>
>> 2018-04-05 14:06 GMT-03:00 hfaiedh ines <hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Thanks all. Please feel free to edit as well so that we are able to
>>> finalize it by tonight.
>>>
>>>
>>> Le jeudi 5 avril 2018, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com> a
>>> écrit :
>>> > Hello
>>> >
>>> > Thanks all once more.
>>> > Indeed the deadline is Apr 6 and it is up to the EC to decide on
>>> > submitting it or not.
>>> > If it can be done by tomorrow then we'll share that with members.
>>> >
>>> > As mentioned, this is already an extension of the original comment
>>> > period so unless ICANN organization gives NCUC an extension, it won't
>>> > be considered after the deadline.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 1:03 PM, Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> Hi Renata,
>>> >>
>>> >> The document indeed isn't presentable as is. However, I think it
>>> would be
>>> >> worthwhile if Ines would work on the document, as she suggested, in
>>> order to
>>> >> fine tune it as much as possible.
>>> >>
>>> >> I'd vote that we check the updates on the document tomorrow earliest
>>> or
>>> >> tonight and swiftly evaluate amongst each other if the document would
>>> be
>>> >> good enough to circulate amongst the members list and submit later on
>>> April
>>> >> 6th. If we find that the document still needs work, then I guess we
>>> could
>>> >> revert to the NCSG document which seems to be somehow finalized.
>>> >>
>>> >> Best,
>>> >>
>>> >> Elsa
>>> >> --
>>> >>
>>> >> On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 11:51 AM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <
>>> raquino at gmail.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Hello
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Thank you all for your comments
>>> >>> As we have 3 votes already this is where it seems that this matter
>>> is:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Deadline for NCUC submission is 6 April - since doc is deemed not
>>> >>> ready (by majority of EC isn't) - won't be submitted
>>> >>> If an extension to NCUC is granted, the submission can be
>>> re-evaluated
>>> >>> Contributions made to NCUC comment are being tentatively incorporated
>>> >>> to NCSG comment, which will be submitted
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I will share this decision of the EC with members tomorrow unless I
>>> >>> receive any other data which could possibly change this process.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Best,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Renata
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 12:35 PM, Michael Karanicolas
>>> >>> <mkaranicolas at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>> > Hi,
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > I generally concur - though it looks now as if Claudio has
>>> migrated over
>>> >>> > to
>>> >>> > Farzi's draft, so I'm not sure where that leaves us in terms of the
>>> >>> > drafting... Nonetheless, I think it would be good to have an NCUC
>>> >>> > submission
>>> >>> > as well, and would warmly encourage Ines, and anyone else, to keep
>>> >>> > working
>>> >>> > on this so we can have something to put in.
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > As to the complaints about process - I think it's a legitimate
>>> point
>>> >>> > about
>>> >>> > leaving things too close to the deadline - and that going forward
>>> we
>>> >>> > should
>>> >>> > aim to get a coherent draft finalized at least 48 hours prior to
>>> the
>>> >>> > deadline for commentary on the lists. However, it's also worth
>>> noting
>>> >>> > that
>>> >>> > the NCSG draft was shared later than the NCUC version - so if
>>> people are
>>> >>> > ok
>>> >>> > with the process around that, I think it nullifies the procedural
>>> >>> > objections
>>> >>> > to our submitting an NCUC comment as well.
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Best,
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Michael
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Bruna Martins dos Santos
>>> >>> > <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> I follow Ines's suggestion, we should at least try to improve the
>>> >>> >> proposed
>>> >>> >> comments as of this evening - the document is not ideal -  and
>>> >>> >> circulating
>>> >>> >> it tomorrow morning on the broader NCUC list before submitting it.
>>> >>> >> Despite
>>> >>> >> the fact that the NCSG's comment is indeed really good, I think
>>> the
>>> >>> >> program
>>> >>> >> could benefit from having one more input.
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> Best,
>>> >>> >> B
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> 2018-04-05 11:47 GMT-03:00 hfaiedh ines <hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com
>>> >:
>>> >>> >>>
>>> >>> >>> I highly recommend and endorse sending the comment before the
>>> deadline
>>> >>> >>> but NOT the way it looks now. It needs some refinement.
>>> >>> >>> I will work on it tonight as I am still teaching. I believe it s
>>> very
>>> >>> >>> important we share our community opinion on the fellowship
>>> program.
>>> >>> >>>
>>> >>> >>>
>>> >>> >>> Le jeudi 5 avril 2018, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
>>> a
>>> >>> >>> écrit
>>> >>> >>> :
>>> >>> >>> > Dear EC
>>> >>> >>> >
>>> >>> >>> > We have a very important input to be given by NCUC on the ICANN
>>> >>> >>> > Fellowship
>>> >>> >>> > Program
>>> >>> >>> >
>>> >>> >>> > Claudio Lucena has been building up this document with members
>>> >>> >>> >
>>> >>> >>> >
>>> >>> >>> >
>>> >>> >>> > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dzd70OBSr1dqE5-_FUFtt1M1
>>> 3CXpDlAkaycUWEIEZW4/edit
>>> >>> >>> >
>>> >>> >>> > More information about this consultation, including extensive
>>> >>> >>> > material
>>> >>> >>> > on
>>> >>> >>> > the program is to be found here
>>> >>> >>> >
>>> >>> >>> > https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/fellowship-
>>> >>> >>> > community-process-review-2018-03-20-en
>>> >>> >>> >
>>> >>> >>> > The initial deadline for this was 30th March
>>> >>> >>> >
>>> >>> >>> > We have got a few days extension and we need to submit it by
>>> >>> >>> > tomorrow.
>>> >>> >>> >
>>> >>> >>> > It will still be proofread before submission but I think we
>>> have
>>> >>> >>> > enough contributions, building up to 13 pages
>>> >>> >>> >
>>> >>> >>> > As you have seen on the list, Ayden wants the document back to
>>> >>> >>> > NCUC-Discuss but I find unlikely we get a few more days
>>> extension to
>>> >>> >>> > do that.
>>> >>> >>> >
>>> >>> >>> > So please vote on sending this response or not
>>> >>> >>> >
>>> >>> >>> > If not, we will just not participate on this consultation by
>>> ICANN
>>> >>> >>> > organization
>>> >>> >>> >
>>> >>> >>> > Thanks
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>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> --
>>> >>> >> Bruna Martins dos Santos
>>> >>> >>
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>>> >>
>>> >> Elsa Saade
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>>
>> --
>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>>
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