[NCUC-EC] [deadline 6th April - Please vote] NCUC response on fellowship questionnaire

Thu Apr 5 21:46:49 CEST 2018

Thank you Bruna :) Am finally home so will start in a few.

Le jeudi 5 avril 2018, Bruna Martins dos Santos <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> a
écrit :

> Ines, I will make sure to take a look tonight too! (:
>
> 2018-04-05 14:06 GMT-03:00 hfaiedh ines <hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com>:
>
>> Thanks all. Please feel free to edit as well so that we are able to
>> finalize it by tonight.
>>
>>
>> Le jeudi 5 avril 2018, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com> a
>> écrit :
>> > Hello
>> >
>> > Thanks all once more.
>> > Indeed the deadline is Apr 6 and it is up to the EC to decide on
>> > submitting it or not.
>> > If it can be done by tomorrow then we'll share that with members.
>> >
>> > As mentioned, this is already an extension of the original comment
>> > period so unless ICANN organization gives NCUC an extension, it won't
>> > be considered after the deadline.
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 1:03 PM, Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Hi Renata,
>> >>
>> >> The document indeed isn't presentable as is. However, I think it would
>> be
>> >> worthwhile if Ines would work on the document, as she suggested, in
>> order to
>> >> fine tune it as much as possible.
>> >>
>> >> I'd vote that we check the updates on the document tomorrow earliest or
>> >> tonight and swiftly evaluate amongst each other if the document would
>> be
>> >> good enough to circulate amongst the members list and submit later on
>> April
>> >> 6th. If we find that the document still needs work, then I guess we
>> could
>> >> revert to the NCSG document which seems to be somehow finalized.
>> >>
>> >> Best,
>> >>
>> >> Elsa
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 11:51 AM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <
>> raquino at gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hello
>> >>>
>> >>> Thank you all for your comments
>> >>> As we have 3 votes already this is where it seems that this matter is:
>> >>>
>> >>> Deadline for NCUC submission is 6 April - since doc is deemed not
>> >>> ready (by majority of EC isn't) - won't be submitted
>> >>> If an extension to NCUC is granted, the submission can be re-evaluated
>> >>> Contributions made to NCUC comment are being tentatively incorporated
>> >>> to NCSG comment, which will be submitted
>> >>>
>> >>> I will share this decision of the EC with members tomorrow unless I
>> >>> receive any other data which could possibly change this process.
>> >>>
>> >>> Best,
>> >>>
>> >>> Renata
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 12:35 PM, Michael Karanicolas
>> >>> <mkaranicolas at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> > Hi,
>> >>> >
>> >>> > I generally concur - though it looks now as if Claudio has migrated
>> over
>> >>> > to
>> >>> > Farzi's draft, so I'm not sure where that leaves us in terms of the
>> >>> > drafting... Nonetheless, I think it would be good to have an NCUC
>> >>> > submission
>> >>> > as well, and would warmly encourage Ines, and anyone else, to keep
>> >>> > working
>> >>> > on this so we can have something to put in.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > As to the complaints about process - I think it's a legitimate point
>> >>> > about
>> >>> > leaving things too close to the deadline - and that going forward we
>> >>> > should
>> >>> > aim to get a coherent draft finalized at least 48 hours prior to the
>> >>> > deadline for commentary on the lists. However, it's also worth
>> noting
>> >>> > that
>> >>> > the NCSG draft was shared later than the NCUC version - so if
>> people are
>> >>> > ok
>> >>> > with the process around that, I think it nullifies the procedural
>> >>> > objections
>> >>> > to our submitting an NCUC comment as well.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Best,
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Michael
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Bruna Martins dos Santos
>> >>> > <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> I follow Ines's suggestion, we should at least try to improve the
>> >>> >> proposed
>> >>> >> comments as of this evening - the document is not ideal -  and
>> >>> >> circulating
>> >>> >> it tomorrow morning on the broader NCUC list before submitting it.
>> >>> >> Despite
>> >>> >> the fact that the NCSG's comment is indeed really good, I think the
>> >>> >> program
>> >>> >> could benefit from having one more input.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Best,
>> >>> >> B
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> 2018-04-05 11:47 GMT-03:00 hfaiedh ines <hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com>:
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> I highly recommend and endorse sending the comment before the
>> deadline
>> >>> >>> but NOT the way it looks now. It needs some refinement.
>> >>> >>> I will work on it tonight as I am still teaching. I believe it s
>> very
>> >>> >>> important we share our community opinion on the fellowship
>> program.
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> Le jeudi 5 avril 2018, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
>> a
>> >>> >>> écrit
>> >>> >>> :
>> >>> >>> > Dear EC
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> > We have a very important input to be given by NCUC on the ICANN
>> >>> >>> > Fellowship
>> >>> >>> > Program
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> > Claudio Lucena has been building up this document with members
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dzd70OBSr1dqE5-_FUFtt1M1
>> 3CXpDlAkaycUWEIEZW4/edit
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> > More information about this consultation, including extensive
>> >>> >>> > material
>> >>> >>> > on
>> >>> >>> > the program is to be found here
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> > https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/fellowship-
>> >>> >>> > community-process-review-2018-03-20-en
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> > The initial deadline for this was 30th March
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> > We have got a few days extension and we need to submit it by
>> >>> >>> > tomorrow.
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> > It will still be proofread before submission but I think we have
>> >>> >>> > enough contributions, building up to 13 pages
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> > As you have seen on the list, Ayden wants the document back to
>> >>> >>> > NCUC-Discuss but I find unlikely we get a few more days
>> extension to
>> >>> >>> > do that.
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> > So please vote on sending this response or not
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> > If not, we will just not participate on this consultation by
>> ICANN
>> >>> >>> > organization
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> > Thanks
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>> >>> >> --
>> >>> >> Bruna Martins dos Santos
>> >>> >>
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