[NCUC-EC] [deadline 6th April - Please vote] NCUC response on fellowship questionnaire

Thu Apr 5 19:06:19 CEST 2018

Thanks all. Please feel free to edit as well so that we are able to
finalize it by tonight.

Le jeudi 5 avril 2018, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com> a écrit :
> Hello
>
> Thanks all once more.
> Indeed the deadline is Apr 6 and it is up to the EC to decide on
> submitting it or not.
> If it can be done by tomorrow then we'll share that with members.
>
> As mentioned, this is already an extension of the original comment
> period so unless ICANN organization gives NCUC an extension, it won't
> be considered after the deadline.
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 1:03 PM, Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Renata,
>>
>> The document indeed isn't presentable as is. However, I think it would be
>> worthwhile if Ines would work on the document, as she suggested, in
order to
>> fine tune it as much as possible.
>>
>> I'd vote that we check the updates on the document tomorrow earliest or
>> tonight and swiftly evaluate amongst each other if the document would be
>> good enough to circulate amongst the members list and submit later on
April
>> 6th. If we find that the document still needs work, then I guess we could
>> revert to the NCSG document which seems to be somehow finalized.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Elsa
>> --
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 11:51 AM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com
>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello
>>>
>>> Thank you all for your comments
>>> As we have 3 votes already this is where it seems that this matter is:
>>>
>>> Deadline for NCUC submission is 6 April - since doc is deemed not
>>> ready (by majority of EC isn't) - won't be submitted
>>> If an extension to NCUC is granted, the submission can be re-evaluated
>>> Contributions made to NCUC comment are being tentatively incorporated
>>> to NCSG comment, which will be submitted
>>>
>>> I will share this decision of the EC with members tomorrow unless I
>>> receive any other data which could possibly change this process.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Renata
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 12:35 PM, Michael Karanicolas
>>> <mkaranicolas at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > Hi,
>>> >
>>> > I generally concur - though it looks now as if Claudio has migrated
over
>>> > to
>>> > Farzi's draft, so I'm not sure where that leaves us in terms of the
>>> > drafting... Nonetheless, I think it would be good to have an NCUC
>>> > submission
>>> > as well, and would warmly encourage Ines, and anyone else, to keep
>>> > working
>>> > on this so we can have something to put in.
>>> >
>>> > As to the complaints about process - I think it's a legitimate point
>>> > about
>>> > leaving things too close to the deadline - and that going forward we
>>> > should
>>> > aim to get a coherent draft finalized at least 48 hours prior to the
>>> > deadline for commentary on the lists. However, it's also worth noting
>>> > that
>>> > the NCSG draft was shared later than the NCUC version - so if people
are
>>> > ok
>>> > with the process around that, I think it nullifies the procedural
>>> > objections
>>> > to our submitting an NCUC comment as well.
>>> >
>>> > Best,
>>> >
>>> > Michael
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Bruna Martins dos Santos
>>> > <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> I follow Ines's suggestion, we should at least try to improve the
>>> >> proposed
>>> >> comments as of this evening - the document is not ideal -  and
>>> >> circulating
>>> >> it tomorrow morning on the broader NCUC list before submitting it.
>>> >> Despite
>>> >> the fact that the NCSG's comment is indeed really good, I think the
>>> >> program
>>> >> could benefit from having one more input.
>>> >>
>>> >> Best,
>>> >> B
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> 2018-04-05 11:47 GMT-03:00 hfaiedh ines <hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com>:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I highly recommend and endorse sending the comment before the
deadline
>>> >>> but NOT the way it looks now. It needs some refinement.
>>> >>> I will work on it tonight as I am still teaching. I believe it s
very
>>> >>> important we share our community opinion on the fellowship program.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Le jeudi 5 avril 2018, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com> a
>>> >>> écrit
>>> >>> :
>>> >>> > Dear EC
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > We have a very important input to be given by NCUC on the ICANN
>>> >>> > Fellowship
>>> >>> > Program
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Claudio Lucena has been building up this document with members
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dzd70OBSr1dqE5-_FUFtt1M13CXpDlAkaycUWEIEZW4/edit
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > More information about this consultation, including extensive
>>> >>> > material
>>> >>> > on
>>> >>> > the program is to be found here
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/fellowship-
>>> >>> > community-process-review-2018-03-20-en
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > The initial deadline for this was 30th March
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > We have got a few days extension and we need to submit it by
>>> >>> > tomorrow.
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > It will still be proofread before submission but I think we have
>>> >>> > enough contributions, building up to 13 pages
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > As you have seen on the list, Ayden wants the document back to
>>> >>> > NCUC-Discuss but I find unlikely we get a few more days extension
to
>>> >>> > do that.
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > So please vote on sending this response or not
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > If not, we will just not participate on this consultation by ICANN
>>> >>> > organization
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Thanks
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>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> Bruna Martins dos Santos
>>> >>
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>>> >> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
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>> --
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>>
>> Elsa Saade
>> Consultant
>> Gulf Centre for Human Rights
>> Twitter: @Elsa_Saade
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