[NCUC-EC] Fwd: Funding civil society day before IGF

[Renata Aquino Ribeiro]

Hi Farzaneh

I'm sorry to hear that window has closed.
Good that NCUC will have 15 minutes on the programme.

Thanks

On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 10:18 AM, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thank you, everyone, for chipping in and sorry I am responding to this
> thread, it seems like there are a lot of questions and I thought I do not
> burden Renata.
>
> First of all, I will source funding from somewhere else and there is no
> need to fund this event through NCUC. I have already sourced funding from
> ICANN. Thank you for your consideration.
>
> Now if you would like, you can read on.
>
> We had funded this event in Mexico, where I had disclosed all the cost
> estimates and the expenses and reported back on every step and reported to
> the chair and EC at the time. It is not an unusual request to ask for
> expenses just that I do not really have any cost estimate at the moment
> other than what I initially said: we need to raise money for catering (2200
> CHF) and the rest would go to funding partially some travellers who
> register and request funding (we don't know who yet they will be selected
> by the programme committee like last year and they are members of the
> networks so they could be NCUC members and members of other civil soc
> networks). EFF is going to fund we don't know the amount yet, ICANN is
> giving us 1500 USD (it is not advisable for ICANN to fund the civil society
> day more than this, it comes across as if they want to dominate which is
> not good). So two simple functions:
> - partial funding for travelers (selected by the programme committee) +
> - catering.
>
> As for the venue, Diplo will host the event.
>
> I could not tell how many participants we were going to support because we
> wanted to do this based on the pot of money we gathered and the requested
> amount by the travelers, which we do not have yet but I would have surely
> reported back.
>
> As to my plans for promoting NCUC, I am very glad to hear that you request
> such plans, it is very important. I had plans to first have an opening of
> 30 minutes with an NCUC rep and Jovan from Diplo, to open the meeting which
> is a great way of promoting NCUC (Diplo is providing the venue i.e. hosting
> it so we would have been co-sponsors opening the meeting) . As you can see
> from the agenda we will also have 15-minute pitch to talk about NCUC. I was
> also planning to present the work of NCUC on content regulation on the
> first segment of the first session which is about private ordering.
>
> Now, I will try and carry out all the abovementioned, but probably it will
> be less (for example no co-introduction since we are not sponsoring and no
> pitch on NCUC).
>
>
>
> Thanks again and apologies again for posting on this thread. I wanted this
> to be recorded and open for everyone to read and not to burden Renata.
>
> Best
>
> Farzaneh
>
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> Farzaneh
>
> On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 7:44 AM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> For outreach future, we will soon get to review the Outreach form
>> according to our Operating Procedures
>>
>> About meeting on anything related to IGF, sorry we don't have any more
>> time.
>>
>> For all CS day queries, contact Farzaneh
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 9:35 AM, Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Renata,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the reply. For future events I think it would be better to
>>> have a budget breakdown requirement? What do you think? I would also very
>>> much appreciate it if you could kindly give me some feedback regarding some
>>> points mentioned in the email like the NCUC budget and a potential EC
>>> meeting to discuss the event in detail and the possibility of having a
>>> separate NCUC event?
>>>
>>> Thanks again for your efforts!
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Elsa
>>> --
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 2:27 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <
>>> raquino at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> Thanks all ECs for these replies.
>>>> Unfortunately we do not have a budget breakdown/expense report. It is
>>>> uncertain how many organizations will contribute and how much and how far
>>>> the event will go. We also do not have more time.
>>>> Organizations willing to participate on CS day have already formed a
>>>> committee, offered to integrate volunteeers and discussed programme.
>>>> We are less than 15 biz days to go to this event and with a lot to do
>>>> towards IGF.
>>>>
>>>> So from all the views expressed,  we can allocate 800 USD for this
>>>> event and everyone who wants to tailor NCUC's message is welcome to work
>>>> with Farzaneh on this.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Renata
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 8:44 AM, Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I do not have a stable connection on weekends as I'm not in Beirut, so
>>>>> it's hard to be on email; thus my reply now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Reading through the thread, I do acknowledge the importance of
>>>>> chipping in, and as far as I can judge, given the info we have, 1000
>>>>> dollars might be a suitable amount. However, to have a solid judgement, it
>>>>> would be great to have a budget breakdown if it's already available for the
>>>>> full budget of the event and who of the partners is funding how much
>>>>> exactly. (Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm assuming that normally this
>>>>> would be done earlier before funding requests get sent out?) When we have
>>>>> the budget breakdown it would be much easier to asses, if not, we would
>>>>> have to make a judgement based on only the info we know in the thread,
>>>>> which, for me, is not the full picture I'm afraid.
>>>>>
>>>>> On a more general note, does NCUC have a tracing of the money spent
>>>>> throughout the year and how much budget we still have, and for how long?
>>>>> I'm asking because It would be hasty to give feedback without having had a
>>>>> general idea of where we stand at the moment in terms of our budget as
>>>>> NCUC. If anyone has more info on this or where I could find this
>>>>> information, sharing would be very much appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>> For the sake of avoiding misunderstandings, I'd also suggest we focus
>>>>> on the budgeting first and then deliberate on the details of how the event
>>>>> should unfold and who should represent NCUC during that event and how to
>>>>> maximize impact. I would suggest we have a call if you like, after we make
>>>>> a decision on the budget allocation amount (as I could see there is a
>>>>> consensus on actually funding. The only deliberation is how much we will be
>>>>> funding).
>>>>>
>>>>> Finally, I would like to endorse Bruna's suggestion of coming up with
>>>>> a plan for a proper outreach event during IGF and the CS Meeting. I'd be
>>>>> more than happy to help if this goes through.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Elsa
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 6:40 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <
>>>>> raquino at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ines, you will not hear from the requester on the list. If the
>>>>>> funding requester is on the list, they do not participate on the
>>>>>> deliberation process.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> About alignment with NCUC's mission and outreach activities, this
>>>>>> even has a program committee and had a period of open comment to the
>>>>>> programe, posted also in NCUC Discuss, during which there were suggestions
>>>>>> included by NCUC members like Farzaneh or Jeremy on themes that are aligned
>>>>>> with NCUC's policy. The whole event will be an outreach space, we hope to
>>>>>> bring printed material and whoever from NCUC will be there is encouraged to
>>>>>> join the debates.
>>>>>> There is also an unconference session - policy slam - that you are
>>>>>> welcome to suggest themes onsite.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Renata
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 1:36 PM, Bruna Martins dos Santos <
>>>>>> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Two points, if I may:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. With regards to the amount of money, given that we are not
>>>>>>> funding any member in particular for the event, I would be leaning towards
>>>>>>> supporting Michael's suggestion: 800 USD is a more reasonable contribution,
>>>>>>> especially considering that the meeting is looking for other funders and
>>>>>>> that the NCUC budget can be quite limited comparing to them.
>>>>>>> 2. Apart from the opening talk, is there space for us to come up
>>>>>>> with a plan for a proper outreach during IGF and the Civil Society
>>>>>>> Meeting? Despite the limited amount of time for proper outreach, I see this
>>>>>>> as a good opportunity and personally think we should not dismiss it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> best,
>>>>>>> bruna
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2017-11-26 13:42 GMT-02:00 hfaiedh ines <hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you for your response. Renata I did not quote our procedures
>>>>>>>> otherwise i would have used inverted commas. This is not the issue anyway.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The requester has to make this an NCUC outreach event for us to
>>>>>>>> approve it -not the reviewers. We never edited requesters' proposals in
>>>>>>>> order to approve them and count them as NCUC event.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As usual, we just need to see how is this related to NCUC . Once it
>>>>>>>> is approved, we can help with it if we are asked to.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We are looking forward to hearing from Farzaneh at her earliest
>>>>>>>> convenience.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Nov 26, 2017 15:46, "Renata Aquino Ribeiro" <raquino at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Ines
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> While I appreciate the care with NCUC funds, our archives are open
>>>>>>>> but we do not have the requester participate on our deliberation process.
>>>>>>>> So your request for information goes through a process. You ask
>>>>>>>> Chair, as others did, and I come to you with the replies I have, and also
>>>>>>>> reach out to requester, the amount of information you request and what you
>>>>>>>> get will vary considering how soon the event is and what is available.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You could also read our Operating Procedures on the matter which
>>>>>>>> states clearly: "The request should include [a log in the NCUC Outreach
>>>>>>>> form - which is being rebuilt], a brief summary of the proposed content,
>>>>>>>> and the estimated and requested budget (if applicable)."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.ncuc.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/NCUC-Operati
>>>>>>>> ng-Procedures-Sept-2017.pdf
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So this line
>>>>>>>> "The expense sheet is mandatory by those asking NCUC to fund
>>>>>>>> activities/participation and for us to approve or not a request."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is _not_ in our Operating Procedures.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My suggestion, to be very clear: if you have concerns how is NCUC
>>>>>>>> being "labeled" or what "speech" will the event have: go ahead and do it.
>>>>>>>> Write NCUC briefing materials, come up with a suggestion for the
>>>>>>>> opening text.
>>>>>>>> You are part of NCUC at IGF, look forward to see your contribution.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Renata
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 11:19 AM, hfaiedh ines <
>>>>>>>> hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you Renata for the email. Still waiting for Farzaneh s
>>>>>>>>> answers to whom I directed my questions.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My comments in-line:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Civil society is made of volunteer work so when suggesting to add
>>>>>>>>> further work (like an expense sheet:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The expense sheet is mandatory by those asking NCUC to fund
>>>>>>>>> activities/participation and for us to approve or not a request. We had a
>>>>>>>>>  detailed expense sheet from Thato for our Outreach event in
>>>>>>>>> Johannesburg so that we had a better idea of how much is going where and we
>>>>>>>>> even ask NCUC members to give us details of expenses for partial travel
>>>>>>>>> funding requests. So this isn't new to us.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> or a call for other volunteers to do work etc.) and not presenting
>>>>>>>>> yourself with collaborative work only adds issues, does not solve problems.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not sure what you are suggesting here. This is to be done by those
>>>>>>>>> asking for NCUC funds not by the ECs reviewing requests.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This event is being organized by a committee, who has offered this
>>>>>>>>> space to NCUC.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is labelled as NCSG not NCUC. And NCSG also includes NPOC
>>>>>>>>> that is the reason behind my question if they are financially contributing
>>>>>>>>> or not. Their interest in participating in the event or not is none of my
>>>>>>>>> business.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Being part of the representation of NCUC also means being
>>>>>>>>> supportive of the group including our colleagues. We have an opening to
>>>>>>>>> deliver in an event we are supporting.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We are still deliberating on financially supporting the event or
>>>>>>>>> not.
>>>>>>>>> Having an opening speech by any one of NCUC leadership doesnt make
>>>>>>>>> it an outreach event and there is definetely no privelege in this
>>>>>>>>> appearance, this EC team has enough regional and global appearances to take
>>>>>>>>> it this way. However, there should be a concrete input to consider this as
>>>>>>>>> outreach in order to allocate or not NCUC funds.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 10:17 AM, Michael Karanicolas <
>>>>>>>>> michael at law-democracy.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks very much for your thoughts. As I understand it, the NCUC
>>>>>>>>>> contribution would go towards catering for the event.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> USD 800 sounds like a good amount to me - especially as it's a
>>>>>>>>>> partial
>>>>>>>>>> contribution and, looking at the list of co-sponsors, they all
>>>>>>>>>> seem to
>>>>>>>>>> have way more disposable cash than we do. I remain a bit
>>>>>>>>>> skeptical as
>>>>>>>>>> to the value of sponsoring in terms of boosting NCUC outreach
>>>>>>>>>> beyond
>>>>>>>>>> regular participation would, but given that we've had a limited
>>>>>>>>>> number
>>>>>>>>>> of requests thus far, and are halfway through the fiscal year, I
>>>>>>>>>> guess
>>>>>>>>>> we may as well contribute something.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 4:56 AM, hfaiedh ines <
>>>>>>>>>> hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> > Hi everyone
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > I do believe that it is important for us to have a presence at
>>>>>>>>>> the "civil
>>>>>>>>>> > society day before IGF".
>>>>>>>>>> > That said, I do have an issue here: this seems to be an event
>>>>>>>>>> for " civil
>>>>>>>>>> > society networks namely: EFF, NCSG, APC, IGC, JNC". There s
>>>>>>>>>> some procedural
>>>>>>>>>> > issue here: Funding an event that is not 'directly' for NCUC and
>>>>>>>>>> > participants that NCUC EC won't be involved in selecting
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > 1. Can we have an idea how could this be an NCUC outreach?
>>>>>>>>>> Where's NCUC
>>>>>>>>>> > here.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > 2. Adding our EC Europe Rep at the last minute for the opening
>>>>>>>>>> does not make
>>>>>>>>>> > it an NCUC outreach sorry.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > 3. So 1500$ could go for food and partial travel funding? Who
>>>>>>>>>> are those who
>>>>>>>>>> > are going to be funded? Are we the ones who will select them?
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > 5. Does NCSG have funds? Was NPOC asked to help as well?
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > Dear Michael, I would lean toward helping in sponsoring the
>>>>>>>>>> event if we have
>>>>>>>>>> > a better understanding of where our contribution would go. What
>>>>>>>>>> do you
>>>>>>>>>> > think?
>>>>>>>>>> > Hence, I would kindly ask Farzaneh to help us in the decision
>>>>>>>>>> by:
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > A- Giving us a breakout of expenses.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > B- Elaborating on how we can have NCUC presence effective and
>>>>>>>>>> acknowledged
>>>>>>>>>> > at the event.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > C- How will partial funding go? NCUC members or not? Travel
>>>>>>>>>> and/or
>>>>>>>>>> > accomodation? Who will select them?
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > D- Would 800 $ help? The costs are around 2200$ and there are 5
>>>>>>>>>> members in
>>>>>>>>>> > the coalition that should also step up to the plate.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > On Nov 25, 2017 22:04, "Renata Aquino Ribeiro" <
>>>>>>>>>> raquino at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > Thank you Louise, for your input
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > As soon as we get closer to the event, we'll check w/ EC again
>>>>>>>>>> if and
>>>>>>>>>> > how we are going to do this opening.
>>>>>>>>>> > Whoever does, I think this is where we will "stand our ground"
>>>>>>>>>> so will
>>>>>>>>>> > be important we build it collectively
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 6:01 PM, Louise Marie Hurel
>>>>>>>>>> > <louise.marie.hsd at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >> My apologies for the delay just got back to London
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >> So, my first reaction would be "yes". Given that the IGF is in
>>>>>>>>>> *Geneva* it
>>>>>>>>>> >> certainly makes it much harder for civil society groups,
>>>>>>>>>> academics and
>>>>>>>>>> >> non-commercial stakeholders overall to attend. Also, NCUC has
>>>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>>>> >> actively
>>>>>>>>>> >> engaged in previous Best Bits meetings and supporting it seems
>>>>>>>>>> like a
>>>>>>>>>> >> natural path to take. Thus, I would agree with helping the
>>>>>>>>>> event.
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >> As for opening the event, I would be happy to do so but don't
>>>>>>>>>> know if I'll
>>>>>>>>>> >> arrive in time for the opening. Can confirm this information
>>>>>>>>>> later.
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >> Louise Marie Hurel
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >> Cybersecurity Project Coordinator | Igarapé Institute
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >> London School of Economics (LSE) Media and Communications
>>>>>>>>>> (Data and
>>>>>>>>>> >> Society)
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >> Skype: louise.dias
>>>>>>>>>> >> +44 (0) 7468 906327
>>>>>>>>>> >> l.h.dias at lse.ac.uk
>>>>>>>>>> >> louise.marie.hsd at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >> 2017-11-25 16:35 GMT+00:00 Michael Karanicolas
>>>>>>>>>> >> <michael at law-democracy.org>:
>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>> Ok - so if I understand this correctly - the funding wouldn't
>>>>>>>>>> actually go
>>>>>>>>>> >>> towards our participation, or getting a representative there,
>>>>>>>>>> but rather
>>>>>>>>>> >>> towards sponsoring the event itself?
>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>> If that's the case, I would lean against it. Again, this
>>>>>>>>>> comes back to
>>>>>>>>>> >>> the
>>>>>>>>>> >>> difference of whether or not we're a "funding organization".
>>>>>>>>>> If the event
>>>>>>>>>> >>> is
>>>>>>>>>> >>> likely to go forward either way, I am doubtful as to whether
>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>> >>> expenditure would provide much of a boost for the NCUC. If it
>>>>>>>>>> were about
>>>>>>>>>> >>> actually bringing someone to IGF, I'd be more sympathetic.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>> On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 9:45 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro
>>>>>>>>>> >>> <raquino at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> >>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Hi all
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> EC, remember you don't need to approve the full request. You
>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> provide funding for a lesser amount.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Michael, in answer to your question, more information form
>>>>>>>>>> Farzaneh
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> below
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> From: farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Date: Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 10:22 PM
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Subject: More information
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> To: Renata Aquino <raquino at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Hi Renata,
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Civil Society day is a pre-IGF event which is organized by
>>>>>>>>>> various
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> civil society networks namely: EFF, NCSG, APC, IGC, JNC.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> The event is normally attended by around 50-60 people.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Most of the networks pitch in money, or source money. EFF
>>>>>>>>>> pitches
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> money in, and NCUC funded civil society day last year too (I
>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> around 1000 USD). Food in Geneva is expensive, the menu that
>>>>>>>>>> we are
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> looking at is around 2200 CHF (Swiss Frank). We asked ICANN
>>>>>>>>>> to fund it
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> as well.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> At the moment Jeremy told me that to serve lunch during the
>>>>>>>>>> event, it
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> comes to 2200 USD. If ICANN and EFF chip in too we can have
>>>>>>>>>> a pot of
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> money to cover food and cover partial travel funding upon
>>>>>>>>>> request.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>  Some put forward their request in registration list to get
>>>>>>>>>> partial
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> funding to attend the meeting. The program committee decides
>>>>>>>>>> on who
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> gets funded and for how much(program committee consists of
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> networks reps: IGC, NCSG EFF, APC, JNC. The participants can
>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> members of the civil society networks, bestbits etc. Last
>>>>>>>>>> year for
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Mexico I think we supported partially two travelers from LAC.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Best
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Farzaneh
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 6:42 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> <raquino at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> > fwding a Michael's message to this list which got
>>>>>>>>>> sidetracked
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> > I'll answer soon
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >> From: Mike <mkaranicolas at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >> To: Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >> Cc: Bruna Martins dos Santos <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>,
>>>>>>>>>> "Exec. Comm"
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >> <ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >> Bcc:
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >> Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2017 17:32:05 -0400
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >> Subject: Re: [NCUC-EC] Fwd: Funding civil society day
>>>>>>>>>> before IGF
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >> I have no objection, but can we get a bit more details as
>>>>>>>>>> to where
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >> the
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >> money is going? Who are the “selected participants”? 1500
>>>>>>>>>> is a lot
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >> for food
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >> - presumably that’s toward airfare and accommodation too?
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> On Nov 24, 2017, at 2:59 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> <raquino at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> Hi Bruna
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> No, the our Procedures require us to analyse case by
>>>>>>>>>> case and
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> recommend an average amount (which is smaller) for more
>>>>>>>>>> general and
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> urgent requests.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> The Civil Society Meeting (this is the correct name) has
>>>>>>>>>> had funded
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> travellers before. I guess it depends on their final
>>>>>>>>>> balance of
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> expenses whether the money will go to fund a new
>>>>>>>>>> traveller or help
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> pay
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> for extra hotel nights to attend, for instance.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 3:27 PM, Bruna Martins dos Santos
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> Renata,
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> Given what was stated in Farzi's email - the fact that
>>>>>>>>>> you'll be in
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> opening ceremony and that Farzi will also have a moment
>>>>>>>>>> to brief
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> people
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> about NCSG/NCUC - the bestbits meeting can be
>>>>>>>>>> considered the NCUC
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> outreaching event for the IGF and I would not oppose on
>>>>>>>>>> giving some
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> money to
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> the event.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> One question though, are we supporting members for the
>>>>>>>>>> IGF itself
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> or
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> when we
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> talk about the 1500 USD for food and modest travel
>>>>>>>>>> funding are we
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> considering funding more people ?
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> Also, does the operating procedures oppose to the
>>>>>>>>>> amount of money
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> requested
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> ? (not from my initial reading)
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> best,
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> B
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> 2017-11-24 12:55 GMT-02:00 Renata Aquino Ribeiro
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> <raquino at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> Dear EC
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> I'm forwarding Farzaneh's request for NCUC EC to
>>>>>>>>>> support civil
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> society
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> day.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> In previous editions this event also had NCUC support.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> NCUC Operating Procedures mention allocation of funds
>>>>>>>>>> on itens VI
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> and VII
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> https://www.ncuc.org/ncuc-operating-procedures/
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> Although this event is a budget higher than the average
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> recommended
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> for approval (USD 500) and the timeline is a bit
>>>>>>>>>> short, you must
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> also
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> have in mind we have had no budget for outreach events
>>>>>>>>>> for IGF
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> approved, we do have a workshop there, and our
>>>>>>>>>> traditional form
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> outreach is to be reviewed, so the request was sent
>>>>>>>>>> via email
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> because
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> of that.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> I would also ask Farzaneh to provide materials to
>>>>>>>>>> publicize the
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> event
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> before and after the meeting (program and report -
>>>>>>>>>> with speakers
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> main
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> points).
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> Please review the request and send in your comments
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> From: farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> Date: Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 11:22 AM
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> Subject: Funding civil society day before IGF
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> To: Renata Aquino <raquino at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> Dear Renata,
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> I was wondering if you and NCUC EC could consider
>>>>>>>>>> funding the
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> civil
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> society day before IGF? I am requesting 1500 USD which
>>>>>>>>>> goes
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> towards
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> food and perhaps some modest travel funding for the
>>>>>>>>>> selected
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> participants.  You as the NCUC chair will open the day
>>>>>>>>>> with Jovan
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> Diplo and I have also gotten a brief timeslot to talk
>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> NCUC/NCSG.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> I am the NCSG rep on the planning committee of this
>>>>>>>>>> meeting.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> Here is the link to the event.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> https://bestbits.net/events/jo
>>>>>>>>>> int-cs-2017/?instance_id=
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> Best
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> Farzaneh
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> NCUC-EC mailing list
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin
>>>>>>>>>> /mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> Bruna Martins dos Santos
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> +55 61 99252-6512
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> @boomartins
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> NCUC-EC mailing list
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >> From: ncuc-ec-request at lists.ncuc.org
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >> To:
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >> Cc:
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >> Bcc:
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >> Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2017 22:32:16 +0100
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >> Subject: confirm 70b9929d73b52701c0fc9dbeb1ebad5445bd89a1
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >> If you reply to this message, keeping the Subject: header
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>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >> to the list.  The Approved: header can also appear in the
>>>>>>>>>> first line
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >> of the body of the reply.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> NCUC-EC mailing list
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec
>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> >>> NCUC-EC mailing list
>>>>>>>>>> >>> NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
>>>>>>>>>> >>> https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec
>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> > _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> > NCUC-EC mailing list
>>>>>>>>>> > NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
>>>>>>>>>> > https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> > NCUC-EC mailing list
>>>>>>>>>> > NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
>>>>>>>>>> > https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> NCUC-EC mailing list
>>>>>>>> NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
>>>>>>>> https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> +55 61 99252-6512 <(61)%2099252-6512>
>>>>>>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>>>>>>> @boomartins
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> NCUC-EC mailing list
>>>>>> NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
>>>>>> https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Elsa Saade
>>>>> Human Rights Officer
>>>>> Gulf Center for Human Rights
>>>>> Beirut, Lebanon
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> NCUC-EC mailing list
>>>> NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
>>>> https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>>
>>> Elsa Saade
>>> Human Rights Officer
>>> Gulf Center for Human Rights
>>> Beirut, Lebanon
>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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