[NCUC-EC] Fwd: Funding civil society day before IGF

farzaneh badii farzaneh.badii at gmail.com
Mon Nov 27 14:18:44 CET 2017 

Thank you, everyone, for chipping in and sorry I am responding to this
thread, it seems like there are a lot of questions and I thought I do not
burden Renata.

First of all, I will source funding from somewhere else and there is no
need to fund this event through NCUC. I have already sourced funding from
ICANN. Thank you for your consideration.

Now if you would like, you can read on.

We had funded this event in Mexico, where I had disclosed all the cost
estimates and the expenses and reported back on every step and reported to
the chair and EC at the time. It is not an unusual request to ask for
expenses just that I do not really have any cost estimate at the moment
other than what I initially said: we need to raise money for catering (2200
CHF) and the rest would go to funding partially some travellers who
register and request funding (we don't know who yet they will be selected
by the programme committee like last year and they are members of the
networks so they could be NCUC members and members of other civil soc
networks). EFF is going to fund we don't know the amount yet, ICANN is
giving us 1500 USD (it is not advisable for ICANN to fund the civil society
day more than this, it comes across as if they want to dominate which is
not good). So two simple functions:
- partial funding for travelers (selected by the programme committee) +
- catering.

As for the venue, Diplo will host the event.

I could not tell how many participants we were going to support because we
wanted to do this based on the pot of money we gathered and the requested
amount by the travelers, which we do not have yet but I would have surely
reported back.

As to my plans for promoting NCUC, I am very glad to hear that you request
such plans, it is very important. I had plans to first have an opening of
30 minutes with an NCUC rep and Jovan from Diplo, to open the meeting which
is a great way of promoting NCUC (Diplo is providing the venue i.e. hosting
it so we would have been co-sponsors opening the meeting) . As you can see
from the agenda we will also have 15-minute pitch to talk about NCUC. I was
also planning to present the work of NCUC on content regulation on the
first segment of the first session which is about private ordering.

Now, I will try and carry out all the abovementioned, but probably it will
be less (for example no co-introduction since we are not sponsoring and no
pitch on NCUC).



Thanks again and apologies again for posting on this thread. I wanted this
to be recorded and open for everyone to read and not to burden Renata.

Best

Farzaneh








Farzaneh

On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 7:44 AM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi
>
> For outreach future, we will soon get to review the Outreach form
> according to our Operating Procedures
>
> About meeting on anything related to IGF, sorry we don't have any more
> time.
>
> For all CS day queries, contact Farzaneh
>
> On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 9:35 AM, Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Renata,
>>
>> Thanks for the reply. For future events I think it would be better to
>> have a budget breakdown requirement? What do you think? I would also very
>> much appreciate it if you could kindly give me some feedback regarding some
>> points mentioned in the email like the NCUC budget and a potential EC
>> meeting to discuss the event in detail and the possibility of having a
>> separate NCUC event?
>>
>> Thanks again for your efforts!
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Elsa
>> --
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 2:27 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> Thanks all ECs for these replies.
>>> Unfortunately we do not have a budget breakdown/expense report. It is
>>> uncertain how many organizations will contribute and how much and how far
>>> the event will go. We also do not have more time.
>>> Organizations willing to participate on CS day have already formed a
>>> committee, offered to integrate volunteeers and discussed programme.
>>> We are less than 15 biz days to go to this event and with a lot to do
>>> towards IGF.
>>>
>>> So from all the views expressed,  we can allocate 800 USD for this event
>>> and everyone who wants to tailor NCUC's message is welcome to work with
>>> Farzaneh on this.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Renata
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 8:44 AM, Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I do not have a stable connection on weekends as I'm not in Beirut, so
>>>> it's hard to be on email; thus my reply now.
>>>>
>>>> Reading through the thread, I do acknowledge the importance of chipping
>>>> in, and as far as I can judge, given the info we have, 1000 dollars might
>>>> be a suitable amount. However, to have a solid judgement, it would be great
>>>> to have a budget breakdown if it's already available for the full budget of
>>>> the event and who of the partners is funding how much exactly. (Correct me
>>>> if I'm wrong, but I'm assuming that normally this would be done earlier
>>>> before funding requests get sent out?) When we have the budget breakdown it
>>>> would be much easier to asses, if not, we would have to make a judgement
>>>> based on only the info we know in the thread, which, for me, is not the
>>>> full picture I'm afraid.
>>>>
>>>> On a more general note, does NCUC have a tracing of the money spent
>>>> throughout the year and how much budget we still have, and for how long?
>>>> I'm asking because It would be hasty to give feedback without having had a
>>>> general idea of where we stand at the moment in terms of our budget as
>>>> NCUC. If anyone has more info on this or where I could find this
>>>> information, sharing would be very much appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> For the sake of avoiding misunderstandings, I'd also suggest we focus
>>>> on the budgeting first and then deliberate on the details of how the event
>>>> should unfold and who should represent NCUC during that event and how to
>>>> maximize impact. I would suggest we have a call if you like, after we make
>>>> a decision on the budget allocation amount (as I could see there is a
>>>> consensus on actually funding. The only deliberation is how much we will be
>>>> funding).
>>>>
>>>> Finally, I would like to endorse Bruna's suggestion of coming up with a
>>>> plan for a proper outreach event during IGF and the CS Meeting. I'd be more
>>>> than happy to help if this goes through.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Elsa
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 6:40 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <
>>>> raquino at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi
>>>>>
>>>>> Ines, you will not hear from the requester on the list. If the funding
>>>>> requester is on the list, they do not participate on the deliberation
>>>>> process.
>>>>>
>>>>> About alignment with NCUC's mission and outreach activities, this even
>>>>> has a program committee and had a period of open comment to the programe,
>>>>> posted also in NCUC Discuss, during which there were suggestions included
>>>>> by NCUC members like Farzaneh or Jeremy on themes that are aligned with
>>>>> NCUC's policy. The whole event will be an outreach space, we hope to bring
>>>>> printed material and whoever from NCUC will be there is encouraged to join
>>>>> the debates.
>>>>> There is also an unconference session - policy slam - that you are
>>>>> welcome to suggest themes onsite.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>> Renata
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 1:36 PM, Bruna Martins dos Santos <
>>>>> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Two points, if I may:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. With regards to the amount of money, given that we are not funding
>>>>>> any member in particular for the event, I would be leaning towards
>>>>>> supporting Michael's suggestion: 800 USD is a more reasonable contribution,
>>>>>> especially considering that the meeting is looking for other funders and
>>>>>> that the NCUC budget can be quite limited comparing to them.
>>>>>> 2. Apart from the opening talk, is there space for us to come up with
>>>>>> a plan for a proper outreach during IGF and the Civil Society
>>>>>> Meeting? Despite the limited amount of time for proper outreach, I see this
>>>>>> as a good opportunity and personally think we should not dismiss it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> best,
>>>>>> bruna
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2017-11-26 13:42 GMT-02:00 hfaiedh ines <hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you for your response. Renata I did not quote our procedures
>>>>>>> otherwise i would have used inverted commas. This is not the issue anyway.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The requester has to make this an NCUC outreach event for us to
>>>>>>> approve it -not the reviewers. We never edited requesters' proposals in
>>>>>>> order to approve them and count them as NCUC event.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As usual, we just need to see how is this related to NCUC . Once it
>>>>>>> is approved, we can help with it if we are asked to.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We are looking forward to hearing from Farzaneh at her earliest
>>>>>>> convenience.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Nov 26, 2017 15:46, "Renata Aquino Ribeiro" <raquino at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Ines
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> While I appreciate the care with NCUC funds, our archives are open
>>>>>>> but we do not have the requester participate on our deliberation process.
>>>>>>> So your request for information goes through a process. You ask
>>>>>>> Chair, as others did, and I come to you with the replies I have, and also
>>>>>>> reach out to requester, the amount of information you request and what you
>>>>>>> get will vary considering how soon the event is and what is available.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You could also read our Operating Procedures on the matter which
>>>>>>> states clearly: "The request should include [a log in the NCUC Outreach
>>>>>>> form - which is being rebuilt], a brief summary of the proposed content,
>>>>>>> and the estimated and requested budget (if applicable)."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.ncuc.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/NCUC-Operati
>>>>>>> ng-Procedures-Sept-2017.pdf
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So this line
>>>>>>> "The expense sheet is mandatory by those asking NCUC to fund
>>>>>>> activities/participation and for us to approve or not a request."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is _not_ in our Operating Procedures.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My suggestion, to be very clear: if you have concerns how is NCUC
>>>>>>> being "labeled" or what "speech" will the event have: go ahead and do it.
>>>>>>> Write NCUC briefing materials, come up with a suggestion for the
>>>>>>> opening text.
>>>>>>> You are part of NCUC at IGF, look forward to see your contribution.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Renata
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 11:19 AM, hfaiedh ines <
>>>>>>> hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you Renata for the email. Still waiting for Farzaneh s
>>>>>>>> answers to whom I directed my questions.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My comments in-line:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Civil society is made of volunteer work so when suggesting to add
>>>>>>>> further work (like an expense sheet:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The expense sheet is mandatory by those asking NCUC to fund
>>>>>>>> activities/participation and for us to approve or not a request. We had a
>>>>>>>>  detailed expense sheet from Thato for our Outreach event in
>>>>>>>> Johannesburg so that we had a better idea of how much is going where and we
>>>>>>>> even ask NCUC members to give us details of expenses for partial travel
>>>>>>>> funding requests. So this isn't new to us.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> or a call for other volunteers to do work etc.) and not presenting
>>>>>>>> yourself with collaborative work only adds issues, does not solve problems.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not sure what you are suggesting here. This is to be done by those
>>>>>>>> asking for NCUC funds not by the ECs reviewing requests.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This event is being organized by a committee, who has offered this
>>>>>>>> space to NCUC.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is labelled as NCSG not NCUC. And NCSG also includes NPOC that
>>>>>>>> is the reason behind my question if they are financially contributing or
>>>>>>>> not. Their interest in participating in the event or not is none of my
>>>>>>>> business.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Being part of the representation of NCUC also means being
>>>>>>>> supportive of the group including our colleagues. We have an opening to
>>>>>>>> deliver in an event we are supporting.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We are still deliberating on financially supporting the event or
>>>>>>>> not.
>>>>>>>> Having an opening speech by any one of NCUC leadership doesnt make
>>>>>>>> it an outreach event and there is definetely no privelege in this
>>>>>>>> appearance, this EC team has enough regional and global appearances to take
>>>>>>>> it this way. However, there should be a concrete input to consider this as
>>>>>>>> outreach in order to allocate or not NCUC funds.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 10:17 AM, Michael Karanicolas <
>>>>>>>> michael at law-democracy.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks very much for your thoughts. As I understand it, the NCUC
>>>>>>>>> contribution would go towards catering for the event.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> USD 800 sounds like a good amount to me - especially as it's a
>>>>>>>>> partial
>>>>>>>>> contribution and, looking at the list of co-sponsors, they all
>>>>>>>>> seem to
>>>>>>>>> have way more disposable cash than we do. I remain a bit skeptical
>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>> to the value of sponsoring in terms of boosting NCUC outreach
>>>>>>>>> beyond
>>>>>>>>> regular participation would, but given that we've had a limited
>>>>>>>>> number
>>>>>>>>> of requests thus far, and are halfway through the fiscal year, I
>>>>>>>>> guess
>>>>>>>>> we may as well contribute something.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 4:56 AM, hfaiedh ines <
>>>>>>>>> hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> > Hi everyone
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > I do believe that it is important for us to have a presence at
>>>>>>>>> the "civil
>>>>>>>>> > society day before IGF".
>>>>>>>>> > That said, I do have an issue here: this seems to be an event
>>>>>>>>> for " civil
>>>>>>>>> > society networks namely: EFF, NCSG, APC, IGC, JNC". There s some
>>>>>>>>> procedural
>>>>>>>>> > issue here: Funding an event that is not 'directly' for NCUC and
>>>>>>>>> > participants that NCUC EC won't be involved in selecting
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > 1. Can we have an idea how could this be an NCUC outreach?
>>>>>>>>> Where's NCUC
>>>>>>>>> > here.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > 2. Adding our EC Europe Rep at the last minute for the opening
>>>>>>>>> does not make
>>>>>>>>> > it an NCUC outreach sorry.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > 3. So 1500$ could go for food and partial travel funding? Who
>>>>>>>>> are those who
>>>>>>>>> > are going to be funded? Are we the ones who will select them?
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > 5. Does NCSG have funds? Was NPOC asked to help as well?
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > Dear Michael, I would lean toward helping in sponsoring the
>>>>>>>>> event if we have
>>>>>>>>> > a better understanding of where our contribution would go. What
>>>>>>>>> do you
>>>>>>>>> > think?
>>>>>>>>> > Hence, I would kindly ask Farzaneh to help us in the decision by:
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > A- Giving us a breakout of expenses.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > B- Elaborating on how we can have NCUC presence effective and
>>>>>>>>> acknowledged
>>>>>>>>> > at the event.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > C- How will partial funding go? NCUC members or not? Travel
>>>>>>>>> and/or
>>>>>>>>> > accomodation? Who will select them?
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > D- Would 800 $ help? The costs are around 2200$ and there are 5
>>>>>>>>> members in
>>>>>>>>> > the coalition that should also step up to the plate.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > On Nov 25, 2017 22:04, "Renata Aquino Ribeiro" <
>>>>>>>>> raquino at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > Thank you Louise, for your input
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > As soon as we get closer to the event, we'll check w/ EC again
>>>>>>>>> if and
>>>>>>>>> > how we are going to do this opening.
>>>>>>>>> > Whoever does, I think this is where we will "stand our ground"
>>>>>>>>> so will
>>>>>>>>> > be important we build it collectively
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 6:01 PM, Louise Marie Hurel
>>>>>>>>> > <louise.marie.hsd at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >> My apologies for the delay just got back to London
>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >> So, my first reaction would be "yes". Given that the IGF is in
>>>>>>>>> *Geneva* it
>>>>>>>>> >> certainly makes it much harder for civil society groups,
>>>>>>>>> academics and
>>>>>>>>> >> non-commercial stakeholders overall to attend. Also, NCUC has
>>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>>> >> actively
>>>>>>>>> >> engaged in previous Best Bits meetings and supporting it seems
>>>>>>>>> like a
>>>>>>>>> >> natural path to take. Thus, I would agree with helping the
>>>>>>>>> event.
>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >> As for opening the event, I would be happy to do so but don't
>>>>>>>>> know if I'll
>>>>>>>>> >> arrive in time for the opening. Can confirm this information
>>>>>>>>> later.
>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >> Louise Marie Hurel
>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >> Cybersecurity Project Coordinator | Igarapé Institute
>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >> London School of Economics (LSE) Media and Communications (Data
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> >> Society)
>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >> Skype: louise.dias
>>>>>>>>> >> +44 (0) 7468 906327
>>>>>>>>> >> l.h.dias at lse.ac.uk
>>>>>>>>> >> louise.marie.hsd at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >> 2017-11-25 16:35 GMT+00:00 Michael Karanicolas
>>>>>>>>> >> <michael at law-democracy.org>:
>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>> >>> Ok - so if I understand this correctly - the funding wouldn't
>>>>>>>>> actually go
>>>>>>>>> >>> towards our participation, or getting a representative there,
>>>>>>>>> but rather
>>>>>>>>> >>> towards sponsoring the event itself?
>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>> >>> If that's the case, I would lean against it. Again, this comes
>>>>>>>>> back to
>>>>>>>>> >>> the
>>>>>>>>> >>> difference of whether or not we're a "funding organization".
>>>>>>>>> If the event
>>>>>>>>> >>> is
>>>>>>>>> >>> likely to go forward either way, I am doubtful as to whether
>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>> >>> expenditure would provide much of a boost for the NCUC. If it
>>>>>>>>> were about
>>>>>>>>> >>> actually bringing someone to IGF, I'd be more sympathetic.
>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>> >>> On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 9:45 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro
>>>>>>>>> >>> <raquino at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> >>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> Hi all
>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> EC, remember you don't need to approve the full request. You
>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>> >>>> provide funding for a lesser amount.
>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> Michael, in answer to your question, more information form
>>>>>>>>> Farzaneh
>>>>>>>>> >>>> below
>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>>>>> >>>> From: farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> Date: Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 10:22 PM
>>>>>>>>> >>>> Subject: More information
>>>>>>>>> >>>> To: Renata Aquino <raquino at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> Hi Renata,
>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> Civil Society day is a pre-IGF event which is organized by
>>>>>>>>> various
>>>>>>>>> >>>> civil society networks namely: EFF, NCSG, APC, IGC, JNC.
>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> The event is normally attended by around 50-60 people.
>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> Most of the networks pitch in money, or source money. EFF
>>>>>>>>> pitches
>>>>>>>>> >>>> money in, and NCUC funded civil society day last year too (I
>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>> >>>> around 1000 USD). Food in Geneva is expensive, the menu that
>>>>>>>>> we are
>>>>>>>>> >>>> looking at is around 2200 CHF (Swiss Frank). We asked ICANN
>>>>>>>>> to fund it
>>>>>>>>> >>>> as well.
>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> At the moment Jeremy told me that to serve lunch during the
>>>>>>>>> event, it
>>>>>>>>> >>>> comes to 2200 USD. If ICANN and EFF chip in too we can have a
>>>>>>>>> pot of
>>>>>>>>> >>>> money to cover food and cover partial travel funding upon
>>>>>>>>> request.
>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>  Some put forward their request in registration list to get
>>>>>>>>> partial
>>>>>>>>> >>>> funding to attend the meeting. The program committee decides
>>>>>>>>> on who
>>>>>>>>> >>>> gets funded and for how much(program committee consists of the
>>>>>>>>> >>>> networks reps: IGC, NCSG EFF, APC, JNC. The participants can
>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>> >>>> members of the civil society networks, bestbits etc. Last
>>>>>>>>> year for
>>>>>>>>> >>>> Mexico I think we supported partially two travelers from LAC.
>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> Best
>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> Farzaneh
>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 6:42 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro
>>>>>>>>> >>>> <raquino at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >>>> > fwding a Michael's message to this list which got
>>>>>>>>> sidetracked
>>>>>>>>> >>>> > I'll answer soon
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >> From: Mike <mkaranicolas at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >> To: Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >> Cc: Bruna Martins dos Santos <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>,
>>>>>>>>> "Exec. Comm"
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >> <ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >> Bcc:
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >> Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2017 17:32:05 -0400
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >> Subject: Re: [NCUC-EC] Fwd: Funding civil society day
>>>>>>>>> before IGF
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >> I have no objection, but can we get a bit more details as
>>>>>>>>> to where
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >> the
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >> money is going? Who are the “selected participants”? 1500
>>>>>>>>> is a lot
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >> for food
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >> - presumably that’s toward airfare and accommodation too?
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> On Nov 24, 2017, at 2:59 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> <raquino at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> Hi Bruna
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> No, the our Procedures require us to analyse case by case
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> recommend an average amount (which is smaller) for more
>>>>>>>>> general and
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> urgent requests.
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> The Civil Society Meeting (this is the correct name) has
>>>>>>>>> had funded
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> travellers before. I guess it depends on their final
>>>>>>>>> balance of
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> expenses whether the money will go to fund a new
>>>>>>>>> traveller or help
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> pay
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> for extra hotel nights to attend, for instance.
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 3:27 PM, Bruna Martins dos Santos
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> Renata,
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> Given what was stated in Farzi's email - the fact that
>>>>>>>>> you'll be in
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> the
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> opening ceremony and that Farzi will also have a moment
>>>>>>>>> to brief
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> people
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> about NCSG/NCUC - the bestbits meeting can be considered
>>>>>>>>> the NCUC
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> outreaching event for the IGF and I would not oppose on
>>>>>>>>> giving some
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> money to
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> the event.
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> One question though, are we supporting members for the
>>>>>>>>> IGF itself
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> or
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> when we
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> talk about the 1500 USD for food and modest travel
>>>>>>>>> funding are we
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> considering funding more people ?
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> Also, does the operating procedures oppose to the amount
>>>>>>>>> of money
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> requested
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> ? (not from my initial reading)
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> best,
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> B
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> 2017-11-24 12:55 GMT-02:00 Renata Aquino Ribeiro
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> <raquino at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> Dear EC
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> I'm forwarding Farzaneh's request for NCUC EC to
>>>>>>>>> support civil
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> society
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> day.
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> In previous editions this event also had NCUC support.
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> NCUC Operating Procedures mention allocation of funds
>>>>>>>>> on itens VI
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> and VII
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> https://www.ncuc.org/ncuc-operating-procedures/
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> Although this event is a budget higher than the average
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> recommended
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> for approval (USD 500) and the timeline is a bit short,
>>>>>>>>> you must
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> also
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> have in mind we have had no budget for outreach events
>>>>>>>>> for IGF
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> approved, we do have a workshop there, and our
>>>>>>>>> traditional form
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> outreach is to be reviewed, so the request was sent via
>>>>>>>>> email
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> because
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> of that.
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> I would also ask Farzaneh to provide materials to
>>>>>>>>> publicize the
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> event
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> before and after the meeting (program and report - with
>>>>>>>>> speakers
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> main
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> points).
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> Please review the request and send in your comments
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> From: farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> Date: Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 11:22 AM
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> Subject: Funding civil society day before IGF
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> To: Renata Aquino <raquino at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> Dear Renata,
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> I was wondering if you and NCUC EC could consider
>>>>>>>>> funding the
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> civil
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> society day before IGF? I am requesting 1500 USD which
>>>>>>>>> goes
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> towards
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> food and perhaps some modest travel funding for the
>>>>>>>>> selected
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> participants.  You as the NCUC chair will open the day
>>>>>>>>> with Jovan
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> from
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> Diplo and I have also gotten a brief timeslot to talk
>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> NCUC/NCSG.
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> I am the NCSG rep on the planning committee of this
>>>>>>>>> meeting.
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> Here is the link to the event.
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> https://bestbits.net/events/joint-cs-2017/?instance_id=
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> Best
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> Farzaneh
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> NCUC-EC mailing list
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> --
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> Bruna Martins dos Santos
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> +55 61 99252-6512
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> @boomartins
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> NCUC-EC mailing list
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>
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>>>>>>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> >>>> NCUC-EC mailing list
>>>>>>>>> >>>> NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
>>>>>>>>> >>>> https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec
>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>> >>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> >>> NCUC-EC mailing list
>>>>>>>>> >>> NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
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>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> > _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> > NCUC-EC mailing list
>>>>>>>>> > NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
>>>>>>>>> > https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> > NCUC-EC mailing list
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> NCUC-EC mailing list
>>>>>>> NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
>>>>>>> https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>>>>>>
>>>>>> +55 61 99252-6512 <(61)%2099252-6512>
>>>>>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>>>>>> @boomartins
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> NCUC-EC mailing list
>>>>> NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
>>>>> https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Elsa Saade
>>>> Human Rights Officer
>>>> Gulf Center for Human Rights
>>>> Beirut, Lebanon
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>>
>> Elsa Saade
>> Human Rights Officer
>> Gulf Center for Human Rights
>> Beirut, Lebanon
>>
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