[NCUC-EC] Fwd: Funding civil society day before IGF

[Renata Aquino Ribeiro]

Thank you Louise, for your input

As soon as we get closer to the event, we'll check w/ EC again if and
how we are going to do this opening.
Whoever does, I think this is where we will "stand our ground" so will
be important we build it collectively



On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 6:01 PM, Louise Marie Hurel
<louise.marie.hsd at gmail.com> wrote:
> My apologies for the delay just got back to London
>
> So, my first reaction would be "yes". Given that the IGF is in *Geneva* it
> certainly makes it much harder for civil society groups, academics and
> non-commercial stakeholders overall to attend. Also, NCUC has been actively
> engaged in previous Best Bits meetings and supporting it seems like a
> natural path to take. Thus, I would agree with helping the event.
>
> As for opening the event, I would be happy to do so but don't know if I'll
> arrive in time for the opening. Can confirm this information later.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Louise Marie Hurel
>
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> 2017-11-25 16:35 GMT+00:00 Michael Karanicolas <michael at law-democracy.org>:
>>
>> Ok - so if I understand this correctly - the funding wouldn't actually go
>> towards our participation, or getting a representative there, but rather
>> towards sponsoring the event itself?
>>
>> If that's the case, I would lean against it. Again, this comes back to the
>> difference of whether or not we're a "funding organization". If the event is
>> likely to go forward either way, I am doubtful as to whether this
>> expenditure would provide much of a boost for the NCUC. If it were about
>> actually bringing someone to IGF, I'd be more sympathetic.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 9:45 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> EC, remember you don't need to approve the full request. You can
>>> provide funding for a lesser amount.
>>>
>>> Michael, in answer to your question, more information form Farzaneh below
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
>>> Date: Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 10:22 PM
>>> Subject: More information
>>> To: Renata Aquino <raquino at gmail.com>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Renata,
>>>
>>> Civil Society day is a pre-IGF event which is organized by various
>>> civil society networks namely: EFF, NCSG, APC, IGC, JNC.
>>>
>>> The event is normally attended by around 50-60 people.
>>>
>>> Most of the networks pitch in money, or source money. EFF pitches
>>> money in, and NCUC funded civil society day last year too (I think
>>> around 1000 USD). Food in Geneva is expensive, the menu that we are
>>> looking at is around 2200 CHF (Swiss Frank). We asked ICANN to fund it
>>> as well.
>>>
>>> At the moment Jeremy told me that to serve lunch during the event, it
>>> comes to 2200 USD. If ICANN and EFF chip in too we can have a pot of
>>> money to cover food and cover partial travel funding upon request.
>>>
>>>  Some put forward their request in registration list to get partial
>>> funding to attend the meeting. The program committee decides on who
>>> gets funded and for how much(program committee consists of the
>>> networks reps: IGC, NCSG EFF, APC, JNC. The participants can be
>>> members of the civil society networks, bestbits etc. Last year for
>>> Mexico I think we supported partially two travelers from LAC.
>>>
>>> Best
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Farzaneh
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 6:42 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro
>>> <raquino at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > fwding a Michael's message to this list which got sidetracked
>>> > I'll answer soon
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> >> From: Mike <mkaranicolas at gmail.com>
>>> >> To: Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
>>> >> Cc: Bruna Martins dos Santos <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>, "Exec. Comm"
>>> >> <ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org>
>>> >> Bcc:
>>> >> Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2017 17:32:05 -0400
>>> >> Subject: Re: [NCUC-EC] Fwd: Funding civil society day before IGF
>>> >> I have no objection, but can we get a bit more details as to where the
>>> >> money is going? Who are the “selected participants”? 1500 is a lot for food
>>> >> - presumably that’s toward airfare and accommodation too?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>>> >>
>>> >>> On Nov 24, 2017, at 2:59 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro
>>> >>> <raquino at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Hi Bruna
>>> >>>
>>> >>> No, the our Procedures require us to analyse case by case and
>>> >>> recommend an average amount (which is smaller) for more general and
>>> >>> urgent requests.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> The Civil Society Meeting (this is the correct name) has had funded
>>> >>> travellers before. I guess it depends on their final balance of
>>> >>> expenses whether the money will go to fund a new traveller or help
>>> >>> pay
>>> >>> for extra hotel nights to attend, for instance.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 3:27 PM, Bruna Martins dos Santos
>>> >>> <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>> Renata,
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Given what was stated in Farzi's email - the fact that you'll be in
>>> >>>> the
>>> >>>> opening ceremony and that Farzi will also have a moment to brief
>>> >>>> people
>>> >>>> about NCSG/NCUC - the bestbits meeting can be considered the NCUC
>>> >>>> outreaching event for the IGF and I would not oppose on giving some
>>> >>>> money to
>>> >>>> the event.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> One question though, are we supporting members for the IGF itself or
>>> >>>> when we
>>> >>>> talk about the 1500 USD for food and modest travel funding are we
>>> >>>> considering funding more people ?
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Also, does the operating procedures oppose to the amount of money
>>> >>>> requested
>>> >>>> ? (not from my initial reading)
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> best,
>>> >>>> B
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> 2017-11-24 12:55 GMT-02:00 Renata Aquino Ribeiro
>>> >>>> <raquino at gmail.com>:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Dear EC
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> I'm forwarding Farzaneh's request for NCUC EC to support civil
>>> >>>>> society
>>> >>>>> day.
>>> >>>>> In previous editions this event also had NCUC support.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> NCUC Operating Procedures mention allocation of funds on itens VI
>>> >>>>> and VII
>>> >>>>> https://www.ncuc.org/ncuc-operating-procedures/
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Although this event is a budget higher than the average recommended
>>> >>>>> for approval (USD 500) and the timeline is a bit short, you must
>>> >>>>> also
>>> >>>>> have in mind we have had no budget for outreach events for IGF
>>> >>>>> approved, we do have a workshop there, and our traditional form for
>>> >>>>> outreach is to be reviewed, so the request was sent via email
>>> >>>>> because
>>> >>>>> of that.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> I would also ask Farzaneh to provide materials to publicize the
>>> >>>>> event
>>> >>>>> before and after the meeting (program and report - with speakers
>>> >>>>> main
>>> >>>>> points).
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Please review the request and send in your comments
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Thanks
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> >>>>> From: farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
>>> >>>>> Date: Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 11:22 AM
>>> >>>>> Subject: Funding civil society day before IGF
>>> >>>>> To: Renata Aquino <raquino at gmail.com>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Dear Renata,
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> I was wondering if you and NCUC EC could consider funding the civil
>>> >>>>> society day before IGF? I am requesting 1500 USD which goes towards
>>> >>>>> food and perhaps some modest travel funding for the selected
>>> >>>>> participants.  You as the NCUC chair will open the day with Jovan
>>> >>>>> from
>>> >>>>> Diplo and I have also gotten a brief timeslot to talk about
>>> >>>>> NCUC/NCSG.
>>> >>>>> I am the NCSG rep on the planning committee of this meeting.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Here is the link to the event.
>>> >>>>> https://bestbits.net/events/joint-cs-2017/?instance_id=
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Best
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Farzaneh
>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> --
>>> >>>> Bruna Martins dos Santos
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> +55 61 99252-6512
>>> >>>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>>> >>>> @boomartins
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