[NCUC-EC] Fwd: Funding civil society day before IGF

Louise Marie Hurel louise.marie.hsd at gmail.com
Sat Nov 25 22:01:32 CET 2017 

My apologies for the delay just got back to London

So, my first reaction would be "yes". Given that the IGF is in *Geneva* it
certainly makes it much harder for civil society groups, academics and
non-commercial stakeholders overall to attend. Also, NCUC has been actively
engaged in previous Best Bits meetings and supporting it seems like a
natural path to take. Thus, I would agree with helping the event.

As for opening the event, I would be happy to do so but don't know if I'll
arrive in time for the opening. Can confirm this information later.

Cheers,

Louise Marie Hurel

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2017-11-25 16:35 GMT+00:00 Michael Karanicolas <michael at law-democracy.org>:

> Ok - so if I understand this correctly - the funding wouldn't actually go
> towards our participation, or getting a representative there, but rather
> towards sponsoring the event itself?
>
> If that's the case, I would lean against it. Again, this comes back to the
> difference of whether or not we're a "funding organization". If the event
> is likely to go forward either way, I am doubtful as to whether this
> expenditure would provide much of a boost for the NCUC. If it were about
> actually bringing someone to IGF, I'd be more sympathetic.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 9:45 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> EC, remember you don't need to approve the full request. You can
>> provide funding for a lesser amount.
>>
>> Michael, in answer to your question, more information form Farzaneh below
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
>> Date: Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 10:22 PM
>> Subject: More information
>> To: Renata Aquino <raquino at gmail.com>
>>
>>
>> Hi Renata,
>>
>> Civil Society day is a pre-IGF event which is organized by various
>> civil society networks namely: EFF, NCSG, APC, IGC, JNC.
>>
>> The event is normally attended by around 50-60 people.
>>
>> Most of the networks pitch in money, or source money. EFF pitches
>> money in, and NCUC funded civil society day last year too (I think
>> around 1000 USD). Food in Geneva is expensive, the menu that we are
>> looking at is around 2200 CHF (Swiss Frank). We asked ICANN to fund it
>> as well.
>>
>> At the moment Jeremy told me that to serve lunch during the event, it
>> comes to 2200 USD. If ICANN and EFF chip in too we can have a pot of
>> money to cover food and cover partial travel funding upon request.
>>
>>  Some put forward their request in registration list to get partial
>> funding to attend the meeting. The program committee decides on who
>> gets funded and for how much(program committee consists of the
>> networks reps: IGC, NCSG EFF, APC, JNC. The participants can be
>> members of the civil society networks, bestbits etc. Last year for
>> Mexico I think we supported partially two travelers from LAC.
>>
>> Best
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Farzaneh
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 6:42 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro
>> <raquino at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > fwding a Michael's message to this list which got sidetracked
>> > I'll answer soon
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> >> From: Mike <mkaranicolas at gmail.com>
>> >> To: Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
>> >> Cc: Bruna Martins dos Santos <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>, "Exec. Comm" <
>> ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org>
>> >> Bcc:
>> >> Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2017 17:32:05 -0400
>> >> Subject: Re: [NCUC-EC] Fwd: Funding civil society day before IGF
>> >> I have no objection, but can we get a bit more details as to where the
>> money is going? Who are the “selected participants”? 1500 is a lot for food
>> - presumably that’s toward airfare and accommodation too?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>
>> >>> On Nov 24, 2017, at 2:59 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi Bruna
>> >>>
>> >>> No, the our Procedures require us to analyse case by case and
>> >>> recommend an average amount (which is smaller) for more general and
>> >>> urgent requests.
>> >>>
>> >>> The Civil Society Meeting (this is the correct name) has had funded
>> >>> travellers before. I guess it depends on their final balance of
>> >>> expenses whether the money will go to fund a new traveller or help pay
>> >>> for extra hotel nights to attend, for instance.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 3:27 PM, Bruna Martins dos Santos
>> >>> <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>> Renata,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Given what was stated in Farzi's email - the fact that you'll be in
>> the
>> >>>> opening ceremony and that Farzi will also have a moment to brief
>> people
>> >>>> about NCSG/NCUC - the bestbits meeting can be considered the NCUC
>> >>>> outreaching event for the IGF and I would not oppose on giving some
>> money to
>> >>>> the event.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> One question though, are we supporting members for the IGF itself or
>> when we
>> >>>> talk about the 1500 USD for food and modest travel funding are we
>> >>>> considering funding more people ?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Also, does the operating procedures oppose to the amount of money
>> requested
>> >>>> ? (not from my initial reading)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> best,
>> >>>> B
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 2017-11-24 12:55 GMT-02:00 Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com
>> >:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Dear EC
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I'm forwarding Farzaneh's request for NCUC EC to support civil
>> society
>> >>>>> day.
>> >>>>> In previous editions this event also had NCUC support.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> NCUC Operating Procedures mention allocation of funds on itens VI
>> and VII
>> >>>>> https://www.ncuc.org/ncuc-operating-procedures/
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Although this event is a budget higher than the average recommended
>> >>>>> for approval (USD 500) and the timeline is a bit short, you must
>> also
>> >>>>> have in mind we have had no budget for outreach events for IGF
>> >>>>> approved, we do have a workshop there, and our traditional form for
>> >>>>> outreach is to be reviewed, so the request was sent via email
>> because
>> >>>>> of that.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I would also ask Farzaneh to provide materials to publicize the
>> event
>> >>>>> before and after the meeting (program and report - with speakers
>> main
>> >>>>> points).
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Please review the request and send in your comments
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Thanks
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> >>>>> From: farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
>> >>>>> Date: Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 11:22 AM
>> >>>>> Subject: Funding civil society day before IGF
>> >>>>> To: Renata Aquino <raquino at gmail.com>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Dear Renata,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I was wondering if you and NCUC EC could consider funding the civil
>> >>>>> society day before IGF? I am requesting 1500 USD which goes towards
>> >>>>> food and perhaps some modest travel funding for the selected
>> >>>>> participants.  You as the NCUC chair will open the day with Jovan
>> from
>> >>>>> Diplo and I have also gotten a brief timeslot to talk about
>> NCUC/NCSG.
>> >>>>> I am the NCSG rep on the planning committee of this meeting.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Here is the link to the event.
>> >>>>> https://bestbits.net/events/joint-cs-2017/?instance_id=
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Best
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Farzaneh
>> >>>>> _______________________________________________
>> >>>>> NCUC-EC mailing list
>> >>>>> NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
>> >>>>> https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> Bruna Martins dos Santos
>> >>>>
>> >>>> +55 61 99252-6512
>> >>>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>> >>>> @boomartins
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